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  • 11-14-2017, 12:04 PM
    omglolchrisss
    Jeffree is soaking.
    His shed went wayyy! Better than the first one last time barely any came off on its own this time majority of it came off except a little on his head and neck.. humidity is the hardest thing to keep with the stupid heat lamp for the most part the humidity was 70-71% but would dip down to 60 overnight. December 1st I'm placing the order for his pvc enclosure 80 watt rhp, heat tape and herpstat 2 redline. My question though will a pvc enclosure be good for keeping the humidity more stable? I'm gonna be so happy to say good bye to mr heat lamp

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  • 11-14-2017, 12:09 PM
    OneEyedFox
    Re: Jeffree is soaking.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by omglolchrisss View Post
    His shed went wayyy! Better than the first one last time barely any came off on its own this time majority of it came off except a little on his head and neck.. humidity is the hardest thing to keep with the stupid heat lamp for the most part the humidity was 70-71% but would dip down to 60 overnight. December 1st I'm placing the order for his pvc enclosure 80 watt rhp, heat tape and herpstat 2 redline. My question though will a pvc enclosure be good for keeping the humidity more stable? I'm gonna be so happy to say good bye to mr heat lamp

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    It should be better at holding humidity. I'm planning on switching Calliope to a T8 soon too lol. From what I've read it's a lot better at holding humidity, so much that people have told me to get ready to switch over from cocofiber to aspen since cocofiber holds humidity too well for a PVC. I don't know for certain but research has told me it'll be way better for humidity.


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  • 11-14-2017, 12:11 PM
    tttaylorrr
    IMO PVC is the BEST material at keeping humidity. you're going to be amazed at how nice PVC enclosures are. :gj:
  • 11-14-2017, 12:15 PM
    ckuhn003
    Re: Jeffree is soaking.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tttaylorrr View Post
    IMO PVC is the BEST material at keeping humidity. you're going to be amazed at how nice PVC enclosures are. :gj:

    Ditto....I've never had an issue w/ humidity w/ my PVC (unless it's been two high of a number) :)
  • 11-14-2017, 12:27 PM
    omglolchrisss
    Re: Jeffree is soaking.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by OneEyedFox View Post
    It should be better at holding humidity. I'm planning on switching Calliope to a T8 soon too lol. From what I've read it's a lot better at holding humidity, so much that people have told me to get ready to switch over from cocofiber to aspen since cocofiber holds humidity too well for a PVC. I don't know for certain but research has told me it'll be way better for humidity.


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    That's what I like to hear!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tttaylorrr View Post
    IMO PVC is the BEST material at keeping humidity. you're going to be amazed at how nice PVC enclosures are. :gj:

    That's great!! I love the way they look too! I would have made the switch sooner but didn't have the money so now I'm gonna do it and call it my early Christmas present to myself haha his new setup is gonna cost me around $1000!! I don't care though nothing is too good for my lil baby
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ckuhn003 View Post
    Ditto....I've never had an issue w/ humidity w/ my PVC (unless it's been two high of a number) :)

    AWESOME!! I'm happy to hear That!!

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  • 11-14-2017, 12:48 PM
    omglolchrisss
    Re: Jeffree is soaking.
  • 11-14-2017, 01:02 PM
    KevinK
    Re: Jeffree is soaking.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by omglolchrisss View Post
    My question though will a pvc enclosure be good for keeping the humidity more stable? I'm gonna be so happy to say good bye to mr heat lamp

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    Yes.


    Yes.

    and

    .....YES!

    The moment I switched to PVC enclosures years ago I noticed my hygrometer start reading in the 55% range with newspaper substrate and a small water bowl on the cool side of the enclosure. If I would have setup newspaper in a glass tank my humidity would have been somewhere around 20-30%.

    PVC cages hold humidity so well that once I started realizing my cages never read anything different than 50-60%, I rarely check them anymore.

    Just keep in mind that substrates you once loved in glass tanks (Eco earth, coconut fiber, cypress mulch) will often give you TOO much humidity in PVC.....so for me I discovered substrates like aspen, kraft paper, and newspaper are much better for me personally to hit my 50-60% mark.


    After YEARS of battling glass tanks for proper humidity, I was one happy keeper.


    With you being in Ontario, and me being in Wisconsin we shouldn't have drastically different humidity levels I would think.
  • 11-14-2017, 01:04 PM
    SDA
    I hope I am not the only one that kind of likes peeling off stuck shed. It's like peeling off those plastic film pieces on electronic stuff.

    I think you saw my write up when I put together my pvc cage. If not I wrote about the first few weeks of having it. I can tell you in about a week how well they do for shedding as Dante is deep in blue now and I haven't touched the humidity and it sits steady at 70%.
  • 11-14-2017, 01:15 PM
    omglolchrisss
    Re: Jeffree is soaking.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KevinK View Post
    Yes.


    Yes.

    and

    .....YES!

    The moment I switched to PVC enclosures years ago I noticed my hygrometer start reading in the 55% range with newspaper substrate and a small water bowl on the cool side of the enclosure. If I would have setup newspaper in a glass tank my humidity would have been somewhere around 20-30%.

    PVC cages hold humidity so well that once I started realizing my cages never read anything different than 50-60%, I rarely check them anymore.

    Just keep in mind that substrates you once loved in glass tanks (Eco earth, coconut fiber, cypress mulch) will often give you TOO much humidity in PVC.....so for me I discovered substrates like aspen, kraft paper, and newspaper are much better for me personally to hit my 50-60% mark.


    After YEARS of battling glass tanks for proper humidity, I was one happy keeper.


    With you being in Ontario, and me being in Wisconsin we shouldn't have drastically different humidity levels I would think.

    That's AWESOME!
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    Originally Posted by SDA View Post
    I hope I am not the only one that kind of likes peeling off stuck shed. It's like peeling off those plastic film pieces on electronic stuff.

    I think you saw my write up when I put together my pvc cage. If not I wrote about the first few weeks of having it. I can tell you in about a week how well they do for shedding as Dante is deep in blue now and I haven't touched the humidity and it sits steady at 70%.

    Lol it is fun to peel I just hate having to help him shed manually because I know he's not too fond of it! Also putting him in the tub to soak him I feel so bad Putting the lid on

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  • 11-14-2017, 04:14 PM
    DavidNDC
    Re: Jeffree is soaking.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by omglolchrisss View Post
    pvc enclosure 80 watt rhp, heat tape

    Just out of curiosity, why both? In speaking with Bob over at ProProducts he indicated the 80w RHP would be plenty for the T10 I ordered. Is the heat tape for backup or do you need it for supplemental heat?
  • 11-14-2017, 04:20 PM
    omglolchrisss
    Re: Jeffree is soaking.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DavidNDC View Post
    Just out of curiosity, why both? In speaking with Bob over at ProProducts he indicated the 80w RHP would be plenty for the T10 I ordered. Is the heat tape for backup or do you need it for supplemental heat?

    Supplemental heat because my apartment is pretty cold in that room and it's better to have it and not need it than to need it at some point and not have it.

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  • 11-14-2017, 04:22 PM
    DavidNDC
    Re: Jeffree is soaking.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by omglolchrisss View Post
    Supplemental heat because my apartment is pretty cold in that room and it's better to have it and not need it than to need it at some point and not have it.

    Gotcha! The reason I ask is because I'm about to order a Herpstat and trying to decide if I should order the 1 or the 2. May go ahead and order the Herpstat 2 just in case..
  • 11-14-2017, 04:22 PM
    SDA
    Re: Jeffree is soaking.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DavidNDC View Post
    Just out of curiosity, why both? In speaking with Bob over at ProProducts he indicated the 80w RHP would be plenty for the T10 I ordered. Is the heat tape for backup or do you need it for supplemental heat?

    I have the size of a T10 from RBI and use heat tape and an 80 watt RHP it works perfectly in cooler climates. I get a perfect warm spot with belly heat and excellent ambient temps from the RHP.

    Canada gets even colder than where I am so I would assume it would help just as well.
  • 11-14-2017, 04:23 PM
    omglolchrisss
    Re: Jeffree is soaking.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DavidNDC View Post
    Gotcha! The reason I ask is because I'm about to order a Herpstat and trying to decide if I should order the 1 or the 2. May go ahead and order the Herpstat 2 just in case..

    Yes I would definitely go with the herpstat 2

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  • 11-14-2017, 04:23 PM
    DLena
    As an aside, every time is see something from you about Jeffree I just have to smile. I love that name. It’s cute, adorable, and just boopable. And you get such personable photos of the little guy.
  • 11-14-2017, 04:26 PM
    omglolchrisss
    Re: Jeffree is soaking.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SDA View Post
    I have the size of a T10 from RBI and use heat tape and an 80 watt RHP it works perfectly in cooler climates. I get a perfect warm spot with belly heat and excellent ambient temps from the RHP.

    Canada gets even colder than where I am so I would assume it would help just as well.

    Lol it does get pretty cold in the winter and hot in the summer like anywhere else. I keep my apartment cool all year round because I hate being hot lol so I prefer to only run the heaters once or twice a day in the winter plus heaters wreak havoc on my skin sinuses and lips yuck

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  • 11-14-2017, 04:28 PM
    omglolchrisss
    Re: Jeffree is soaking.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DLena View Post
    As an aside, every time is see something from you about Jeffree I just have to smile. I love that name. It’s cute, adorable, and just boopable. And you get such personable photos of the little guy.

    Thanks!! and Yess he's very personable in real life as well as photos the other day when I was trying to take one he put his head over my phone with his head flat on my screen!! I think he wanted to take a selfie

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  • 11-14-2017, 04:32 PM
    DavidNDC
    Re: Jeffree is soaking.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SDA View Post
    I have the size of a T10 from RBI and use heat tape and an 80 watt RHP it works perfectly in cooler climates. I get a perfect warm spot with belly heat and excellent ambient temps from the RHP.

    Canada gets even colder than where I am so I would assume it would help just as well.

    Ah, makes sense! I totally missed the Canada in her location. Yeah, I'd imagine it does get a bit chilly up there. :)

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by omglolchrisss View Post
    Yes I would definitely go with the herpstat 2

    Will do, thanks! Will order it on the 17th when Spyder Robotics' holiday sale kicks off. :sweeet:
  • 11-14-2017, 04:32 PM
    SDA
    Herpstat 2 all day long. Even if you do not get a secondary heat source you can control lights, check humidity with that optional probe, etc.
  • 11-14-2017, 04:39 PM
    omglolchrisss
    Re: Jeffree is soaking.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DavidNDC View Post
    Ah, makes sense! I totally missed the Canada in her location. Yeah, I'd imagine it does get a bit chilly up there. :)



    Will do, thanks! Will order it on the 17th when Spyder Robotics' holiday sale kicks off. :sweeet:

    It does get pretty chilly and I love it! Thank God I'm not a ball python! Haha

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  • 11-14-2017, 05:29 PM
    Sunnieskys
    So is it cheaper to buy everything together, or separate as money grows on the tree? Lol
  • 11-14-2017, 06:24 PM
    omglolchrisss
    Re: Jeffree is soaking.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sunnieskys View Post
    So is it cheaper to buy everything together, or separate as money grows on the tree? Lol

    Hmm probably separate but I want it all at once! Lol where is this damn tree I keep hearing about! I need to plant one haha.

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  • 11-14-2017, 07:34 PM
    SDA
    Re: Jeffree is soaking.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sunnieskys View Post
    So is it cheaper to buy everything together, or separate as money grows on the tree? Lol

    Depends on where you get it. RBI for example has free shipping once you have a certain dollar amount ordered.

    It's also best to look out for those sales places like spyder robotics have. Sometimes you can get a great deal on things.

    However since she lives in Canada I have no clue lol
  • 11-14-2017, 08:08 PM
    The Night King
    Re: Jeffree is soaking.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DavidNDC View Post
    Just out of curiosity, why both? In speaking with Bob over at ProProducts he indicated the 80w RHP would be plenty for the T10 I ordered. Is the heat tape for backup or do you need it for supplemental heat?

    Im curious about this very same question also. I'm going to order the T10 with RHP only also. Hopefully that is enough....I thought I read the lights in it may help a bit also with heating.....
  • 11-14-2017, 08:42 PM
    SDA
    Re: Jeffree is soaking.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by The Night King View Post
    Im curious about this very same question also. I'm going to order the T10 with RHP only also. Hopefully that is enough....I thought I read the lights in it may help a bit also with heating.....

    So if you get lighting you really really want only the LED which will not help with heating at all.

    I know right now my house gets down to 69 degrees before the heater kicks in. Even without it getting that cold, I like offering a place for my BP to go to when he wants warm heat. I don't use the RHP to heat the warm side so it is used to control ambient heat and provide a slight basking spot in the middle front of the tank. I feel myself heat tape is a wonderful supplemental option for a tank the size of a T10 and I am able to provide excellent husbandry with both options but if you feel it is not needed, don't get it but I really am not sure what it would hurt especially if you are in a cold winter climate where you house gets below 70.
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