Brightest yellows with darkest blacks

Which bp morph has the brightest yellows and the darkest blacks? Basically the highest contrast. I am a huge fan of that look. It seems like bumblebees and killerbees start out like that but fade over time? Thanks!

This guy isn't bad. ;)

Super Orange Dream Yellow Belly
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/uRRPL53.jpg

*EDIT: Obviously Spider as well - hooray for typos!*

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Originally Posted by Eric Alan

This guy isn't bad. ;)

Super Orange Dream Yellow Belly
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/uRRPL53.jpg

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I think I just had a heart attack! Those colors are beautiful!

Just amazing


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I have a killer bee that is three years old right now that is still super vibrant. It is not just what morph it is. The quality of both the parents that really matters and it means all the genes. Not just the yellows and blacks. A good example of what I am talking about can be seen with albinos. Normally we want a lot of blushing on our animals, with albinos this tends to backfire in a big way and you get muddy snakes. I hatched the one below this year. I am expecting that it holds it's color pretty well. So far no brown speckling around the dorsal which is an early indicator that things are going to change.

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil.../1700406_2.jpg

Super Orange Dream Yellow Belly looks pretty close to what I am looking for. Very vibrant and beautiful. Personally I really like the markings on the Bumblebee more, I like a low of blacks, but with really vibrant yellows into adulthood. I guess a lot of that matters on the blood lineage though as Jordanornodan said?

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Originally Posted by Zach_este93

Super Orange Dream Yellow Belly looks pretty close to what I am looking for. Very vibrant and beautiful. Personally I really like the markings on the Bumblebee more, I like a low of blacks, but with really vibrant yellows into adulthood. I guess a lot of that matters on the blood lineage though as Jordanornodan said?

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That super OD is hot but I bet it’s way up there in price too. The low black is because I’m pretty sure it has spider in there too. You are right about the killer bees not having as dark of blacks and that’s because the super pastel washes out blacks not because of quality. If you want more black and super clean yellow, pastel desert ghost is the best I’ve seen yet. I’ll post a pic later.

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Super Orange Dream Yellow Belly looks pretty close to what I am looking for. Very vibrant and beautiful. Personally I really like the markings on the Bumblebee more, I like a low of blacks, but with really vibrant yellows into adulthood. I guess a lot of that matters on the blood lineage though as Jordanornodan said?

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That picture was from last year. This one is a quick cell phone pic from a couple of weeks ago while he was locked up with one of my girls. If you're waiting for his color to dull as he get's into adulthood, I wouldn't hold your breath. :8:
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/1WGpTEx.jpg

Mine is actually a Pastel Pinstripe Mojave Spider. The mother and father were very high yellow animals.

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That picture was from last year. This one is a quick cell phone pic from a couple of weeks ago while he was locked up with one of my girls. If you're waiting for his color to dull as he get's into adulthood, I wouldn't hold your breath. :8:
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/1WGpTEx.jpg

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He is holding color well. I am impressed.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...7559535307.jpg

Not the best pic of her because terrible lighting but the pic has not been altered at all, looksbetter in person but you get the idea.


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That is a truly stunning animal Eric Alan. I think it is the brightest yellow I have seen on an adult.

I think pastel desert ghost is exactly what I am after. Anyone have pics of an adult? The babies are absolutely beautiful.

I don't know why I am even doing this to myself, these yellow/black snakes seem to have giant price tags! lmao

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Originally Posted by Zach_este93

That is a truly stunning animal Eric Alan. I think it is the brightest yellow I have seen on an adult.

I think pastel desert ghost is exactly what I am after. Anyone have pics of an adult? The babies are absolutely beautiful.

I don't know why I am even doing this to myself, these yellow/black snakes seem to have giant price tags! lmao

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The higher price is due to the fact Desert Ghost is recessive, so it takes more time to get to the end product.

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That is a truly stunning animal Eric Alan. I think it is the brightest yellow I have seen on an adult.

I think pastel desert ghost is exactly what I am after. Anyone have pics of an adult? The babies are absolutely beautiful.

I don't know why I am even doing this to myself, these yellow/black snakes seem to have giant price tags! lmao

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Here she is at over 2000 grams, not gonna fade with desert ghost in the mix.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...7ff81e2642.jpg


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That is a truly stunning animal Eric Alan. I think it is the brightest yellow I have seen on an adult.

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Thank you.

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I don't know why I am even doing this to myself, these yellow/black snakes seem to have giant price tags! lmao

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They always do... :D

Wow rufretic, I think you just helped me find my favourite morph. That is an absolutely deadly colour combo. Maybe someday in the future I will own one of these. Desert ghost keeps colours from fading?

As an aside, if I were to buy one eventually should I buy female in case I ever wanted to breed it? I don't think that I would, but it would be hard to justify the price tag otherwise.

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Here she is at over 2000 grams, not gonna fade with desert ghost in the mix.https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...7ff81e2642.jpg


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Yeah that's a nice animal. I am very tempted to get involved with Desert Ghost, but I'm working too many recessives already. More than one way to skin a cat.

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This guy isn't bad. ;)

Super Orange Dream Yellow Belly
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/uRRPL53.jpg

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Wow, just wow!!!!!:worship::bow::worship::bow::worship::bow:

look into Yellowjackets. very simple genetics yet very striking:

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...jacket/001.jpg
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...jacket/002.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/morgens...large/a2_4.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/morgens...large/a7_1.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/morgens...large/a3_2.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/morgens...large/a5_2.jpg

Also a Pastel Desert Ghost at almost adult size..

Pastel Enchi Desert Ghost

http://photos.imageevent.com/morgens...t/large/v2.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/morgens...t/large/v7.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/morgens...st/large/4.jpg

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https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...7559535307.jpg

not the best pic of her because terrible lighting but the pic has not been altered at all, looksbetter in person but you get the idea.


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perfect!

I just purchased this guy. He is a leopard mojave (pos fire) bee. His contrast looks great right know. However, he is only 76G. Im not sure if he will hold his colors, or if he will brown out like some other bees.


https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...78279362c9.jpg

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I just purchased this guy. He is a leopard mojave (pos fire) bee. His contrast looks great right know. However, he is only 76G. Im not sure if he will hold his colors, or if he will brown out like some other bees.


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That is a GORGEOUS gorgeous animal. You certainly lucked out with that one. Doesn't get more yellow/black then that, and love the balance and contrast between the two colors as well as the clean-ness.

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That is a GORGEOUS gorgeous animal. You certainly lucked out with that one. Doesn't get more yellow/black then that, and love the balance and contrast between the two colors as well as the clean-ness.

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I agree it is an absolutely gorgeous animal, unfortunately I’m not confident it will have the genetics to stay bright yellow into adulthood. Don’t get me wrong, it will still make a beautiful adult but instead of this bright yellow that it has now, I believe it will get the brown top just like bumble bees get. I would love to see a follow up pic as an adult though because other than DG, I’m not positive which combos do have the potential to stay yellow, I’m still learning. I just don’t see what morph in this particular combo would help it retain the bright yellow.

Even if the yellow fades or browns out, what helps this animal retain its beauty is that the pattern is very "pronounced". So there will always be a clear contrast. Hopefully it will also stay so nice and clean looking.

If "Fire" is present (pos), I think that would help with color, right?

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Even if the yellow fades or browns out, what helps this animal retain its beauty is that the pattern is very "pronounced". So there will always be a clear contrast. Hopefully it will also stay so nice and clean looking.

If "Fire" is present (pos), I think that would help with color, right?

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From what I’ve seen, Fire will help keep the color from darkening like some do but it does not seem to help with retaining color as much as I’d like. For example if you compared a pastel vs a fire pastel (firefly), the pastel may get dark brown with age where as the firefly may loose the bright yellow color, they still typically stay bright but not so yellow. So for the animal we are talking about, if it does have the fire, it probably wouldn’t turn brown but maybe more of a light tan color.

I know bumble bees brow out typically. I do not have enough experience with the other genes in him to really know what will happen with him. Its kind of funny tho, when I bought him I was in the market for a dark snake because I currently have a BEL and banana pastave. So I didn't even want a bright snake. However, I could not turn down this guys contrast. I hope he keeps his yellow color, but if he doesn't, then I will still be happy with a darker snake lol. He also has a lot of potential if I decide to breed him in the future. As long as this forum is around and doesnt die off, then I will post progress pictures of him here:

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...aybe-fire)-bee!

Since we are showing off... here's my Pastel Desert Ghost male!

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ghost-male.jpg

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Since we are showing off... here's my Pastel Desert Ghost male!

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ghost-male.jpg

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Holy cow !!! He looks just like Arjana !!

Really do need shades when looking at them :cool:

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Since we are showing off... here's my Pastel Desert Ghost male!

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ghost-male.jpg

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It helps that this is my favorite morph but still, I love him! Very nice and clean example, beautiful!

this thing:

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...m/qwPafpWs.jpg

:)