Is this pvc enclosure too big for a Bp?

This is the one I have my eye on when I emailed the company for info the guy said it was too big for a Bp and suggested the 3 foot long version my Bp is I would guess between 2-2.5 feet long maybe 3 at most I think less though when weighed last night he or she weighed in at 368 grams that might be a bit off because he ate a rat on Saturday that's bigger than he/she used to eating thanks in advance for any input! :)https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...2d5f715f7f.jpg

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Nope, that's perfect for a BP, though if you plan on using it with a younger snake, you'll have to clutter it up a lot and use lots of hides. Definitely a suitable forever home.

Good forever home. Clutter it up while jeffree grows.

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I have always kept my snakes (from baby to adult) in enclosures that may be deemed too big by some people. I've never had a problem. Some people say they must be cluttered up if it is a large enclosure and that may be true for some snakes. I have never witnessed that. It may be also that my snakes are out of their cage everyday for up to an hour or better at a time so wide open to them is comfortable. Feedings go off like clock work except for two of the three while in shed. In my opinion, especially for an adult ball python there is no such thing as too big. Something that size you could always section off if you felt it made your ball python more comfortable.

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Nope, that's perfect for a BP, though if you plan on using it with a younger snake, you'll have to clutter it up a lot and use lots of hides. Definitely a suitable forever home.

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Thanks that's what I thought!! I would definitely do that!

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Originally Posted by Pezz

Good forever home. Clutter it up while jeffree grows.

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Thanks yeah I'm gonna go with that one plus the smaller one was not much cheaper!

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Originally Posted by omglolchrisss

Thanks that's what I thought!! I would definitely do that!



Thanks yeah I'm gonna go with that one plus the smaller one was not much cheaper!

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I need to get a couple of new larger enclosures made but my brother inlaw who makes them for me is currently in Puerto Rico helping with the reconstruction efforts. So Monty has to deal with a glass enclosure when he gets out of quarentine.

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There's no such thing as a 'too big' enclosure! For a baby, just clutter it up a lot and they'll be fine.

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I have always kept my snakes (from baby to adult) in enclosures that may be deemed too big by some people. I've never had a problem. Some people say they must be cluttered up if it is a large enclosure and that may be true for some snakes. I have never witnessed that. It may be also that my snakes are out of their cage everyday for up to an hour or better at a time so wide open to them is comfortable. Feedings go off like clock work except for two of the three while in shed. In my opinion, especially for an adult ball python there is no such thing as too big. Something that size you could always section off if you felt it made your ball python more comfortable.

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Yeah that's what I kinda figured and yeah I handle my Bp quite often he/never seems freaked out being out of the enclosure!

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I need to get a couple of new larger enclosures made but my brother inlaw who makes them for me is currently in Puerto Rico helping with the reconstruction efforts. So Monty has to deal with a glass enclosure when he gets out of quarentine.

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I wish I had a brother in law to make me some enclosures and that's awesome what he's doing!

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Originally Posted by PythonBabes

There's no such thing as a 'too big' enclosure! For a baby, just clutter it up a lot and they'll be fine.

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Thank you yeah That's what I figured!

Known him since high school, he's an amazing person. That's why i let him date and eventually marry my sister. He's made two for me so far. Both custom jobs, one is oak and one is maple they have uth cutouts that i cover with terracotta tiles. I love using the wooden vivs the humidity stays spot on, i never have to spray them.

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Known him since high school, he's an amazing person. That's why i let him date and eventually marry my sister. He's made two for me so far. Both custom jobs, one is oak and one is maple they have uth cutouts that i cover with terracotta tiles. I love using the wooden vivs the humidity stays spot on, i never have to spray them.

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Those sound really pretty!!

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No way is that too big for a forever home. May be a bit big now, but with clutter could be ok. I personally would wait a bit to move him though. Tyson is about to hit 600 grams and I am almost done customizing his new/forever enclosure, which has almost the same footprint as the one you're looking at. He will be moving from his 20 gallon to the new enclosure within a few weeks.

That size cage should be fine, just add clutter as already stated. However, you can get a comparably sized cage with similar features from apcages.com for less than half that price. Worth checking out


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That is the perfect size. Add in an 80 watt RHP and you are in business. I also agree you can get the same thing for less from AP or RBI.

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That size cage should be fine, just add clutter as already stated. However, you can get a comparably sized cage with similar features from apcages.com for less than half that price. Worth checking out


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That is the perfect size. Add in an 80 watt RHP and you are in business. I also agree you can get the same thing for less from AP or RBI.

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...but can she get them delivered to Canada cheap enough to be worth it?

What's Canadian for "STUPID CANADIAN MARKUPS!!!"? No you can't get them shipped to Canada, NAFTA be damned. I am also going to complain because those are in Canadian dollars too which is confusing to begin with (get your own monetary name already!).

I also see that is Cornell's World so that makes it even better. Get a herpstat 2 from them and you should be good. They sell RBI 80 watt RHP which is perfect for that cage and THG tape. Call or email them and ask if they can assemble the tape for you which will make it a lot easier.

Edit: They offer to assemble and install it with your cage order... do that trust me you do not want to assemble this stuff on your own ;)

Double edit: Everyone in Canada needs a signature stating "I am in Canada, I can't get reasonable prices on supplies, save me" :P

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What's Canadian for "STUPID CANADIAN MARKUPS!!!"? No you can't get them shipped to Canada, NAFTA be damned. I am also going to complain because those are in Canadian dollars too which is confusing to begin with (get your own monetary name already!).

I also see that is Cornell's World so that makes it even better. Get a herpstat 2 from them and you should be good. They sell RBI 80 watt RHP which is perfect for that cage and THG tape. Call or email them and ask if they can assemble the tape for you which will make it a lot easier.

Edit: They offer to assemble and install it with your cage order... do that trust me you do not want to assemble this stuff on your own ;)

Double edit: Everyone in Canada needs a signature stating "I am in Canada, I can't get reasonable prices on supplies, save me" :P

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Hahahahahhahahahhabahahahahha:rofl:

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...but can she get them delivered to Canada cheap enough to be worth it?

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Whoops! Didn't see that they were in Canada...


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No way is that too big for a forever home. May be a bit big now, but with clutter could be ok. I personally would wait a bit to move him though. Tyson is about to hit 600 grams and I am almost done customizing his new/forever enclosure, which has almost the same footprint as the one you're looking at. He will be moving from his 20 gallon to the new enclosure within a few weeks.

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Yeah I wasn't planning on ordering it til next month I definitely do wanna switch as soon as possible because it's already starting to get freezing cold here and I can't keep the temperatures or humidity stable in my 20 gallon tank to save my life it either gets too cold or too hot so I'm constantly having to adjust the rheostat up and down and I can't leave my house for more than an hour or 2

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That size cage should be fine, just add clutter as already stated. However, you can get a comparably sized cage with similar features from apcages.com for less than half that price. Worth checking out


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I originally wanted to but with shipping and duty and additional taxes it would be too much.

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Originally Posted by SDA

That is the perfect size. Add in an 80 watt RHP and you are in business. I also agree you can get the same thing for less from AP or RBI.

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I love ap cages sadly I live In Canada so a lot of things just aren't reasonable

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Originally Posted by craigafrechette

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Sadly no!

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What's Canadian for "STUPID CANADIAN MARKUPS!!!"? No you can't get them shipped to Canada, NAFTA be damned. I am also going to complain because those are in Canadian dollars too which is confusing to begin with (get your own monetary name already!).

I also see that is Cornell's World so that makes it even better. Get a herpstat 2 from them and you should be good. They sell RBI 80 watt RHP which is perfect for that cage and THG tape. Call or email them and ask if they can assemble the tape for you which will make it a lot easier.

Edit: They offer to assemble and install it with your cage order... do that trust me you do not want to assemble this stuff on your own ;)

Double edit: Everyone in Canada needs a signature stating "I am in Canada, I can't get reasonable prices on supplies, save me" :P

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Yeah they can ship here but with duty and additional taxes it's not worth it!

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The frustrations of a Canadian herper. lol.

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The frustrations of a Canadian herper. lol.

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Good hockey though!!!

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Good hockey though!!!

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If you like Hockey lol I personally can't stand it...*waits for the mob outside my house with torches*

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If you like Hockey lol I personally can't stand it...*waits for the mob outside my house with torches*

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I don't really care for hockey either. We shall fight the hordes of torch wielding hockey fans together. Wait I forgot they're also canadians, we can just politely ask them to leave.

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I don't really care for hockey either. We shall fight the hordes of torch wielding hockey fans together. Wait I forgot they're also canadians, we can just politely ask them to leave.

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Lmao best post ever!!

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I don't really care for hockey either. We shall fight the hordes of torch wielding hockey fans together. Wait I forgot they're also canadians, we can just politely ask them to leave.

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Lmao best post ever!!

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Hahahahahahahaha!!! I've been playing hockey since I was 4, but that's funny right there!!! Well played!!:rofl:

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Originally Posted by PythonBabes

There's no such thing as a 'too big' enclosure! For a baby, just clutter it up a lot and they'll be fine.

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I was just going to say this! Mine started out in a 40 gal as a hatchling (very cluttered of course) and then moved to a AP T11 - if I ever get a female I will probably go for an AP T25

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This is the one I have my eye on when I emailed the company for info the guy said it was too big for a Bp and suggested the 3 foot long version my Bp is I would guess between 2-2.5 feet long maybe 3 at most I think less though when weighed last night he or she weighed in at 368 grams that might be a bit off because he ate a rat on Saturday that's bigger than he/she used to eating thanks in advance for any input! :)https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...2d5f715f7f.jpg

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Hey is that from PVC cages in Mississauga? If so do they put lights in them and such?

Saw PVC cages at a local show couple months ago and forgot to go talk to them. Maybe is the spring I will get one from them as Pandora is already out growing her 15 qt tub at 3 months.


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Hey is that from PVC cages in Mississauga? If so do they put lights in them and such?

Saw PVC cages at a local show couple months ago and forgot to go talk to them. Maybe is the spring I will get one from them as Pandora is already out growing her 15 qt tub at 3 months.


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It's from Cornels world in Calgary they put lights in heat panels heat tape etc the pvc cages website is sorta basic it doesn't say what options you can add you would probably have to call and ask or email.

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It's from Cornels world in Calgary they put lights in heat panels heat tape etc the pvc cages website is sorta basic it doesn't say what options you can add you would probably have to call and ask or email.

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Cool. Is shipping expensive?


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Cool. Is shipping expensive?


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I did a shipping estimate and it depends on the type of shipping you decide to go with

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Cool I checked the web site out. I like the fact you custom lighting and panels. Will def. consider these guys.


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Cool I checked the web site out. I like the fact you custom lighting and panels. Will def. consider these guys.


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Yeah that's definitely the reason I'm choosing them!

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Cornells is a god send to us Canadian herpers. Waiting on my herpstat 2 :)

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Honest question. Is cornells the best site to direct people to for online ordering up there? Want to make sure if and when I get asked the question I have an informed answer to give. From what I looked on the site they seem really well stocked in the good stuff. Like are they good customer service and decent turn around?

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Honest question. Is cornells the best site to direct people to for online ordering up there? Want to make sure if and when I get asked the question I have an informed answer to give. From what I looked on the site they seem really well stocked in the good stuff. Like are they good customer service and decent turn around?

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Not sure just heard about them tonight. Since I am only keeping one snake I will def consider them when it's time to upgrade my equipment.




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Not sure just heard about them tonight. Since I am only keeping one snake I will def consider them when it's time to upgrade my equipment.




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As in a bid pvc enclosure etc. Looks like they have tub set ups for breeders as well


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Honest question. Is cornells the best site to direct people to for online ordering up there? Want to make sure if and when I get asked the question I have an informed answer to give. From what I looked on the site they seem really well stocked in the good stuff. Like are they good customer service and decent turn around?

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Depends upon the product. For custom enclosures they are the best, the zoos up here use them. They're also the only Canadian dealer for spyder robotics that I've found. If you can find the product on Amazon thats your best bet.

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Originally Posted by Pezz

Depends upon the product. For custom enclosures they are the best, the zoos up here use them. They're also the only Canadian dealer for spyder robotics that I've found. If you can find the product on Amazon thats your best bet.

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^^^ this

Because of this post my entire tax return this year might go to Cornell's World! If not this one, then definitely next.

Now to stop myself from comparing to prices from the US suppliers and crying over the injustice [emoji23]

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