Morph identification help

Rescued this guy off of Craigslist the own said he’s about three years old and he was feeding him rat pinkies. He’s extremely under weight but I think a little TLC he’ll be okay. Own was selling him as an albino but he clearly has more than one morph. I’m guessi spider, pinstripe, or enchi.

What do do you think?

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Hello everyone! Found this snake at a local pet store. No idea what it is, but I would really like to know because I cannot find anything that looks like it. I've gotten close, but the head pattern is really throwing me off.

According to the employee we talked to, this snake arrived labelled as a "Champagne Spotnose". He didn't believe it and asked a snake knowledgable friend who said "Pewter Spider Lemonblast." I think she's right on the spider lemonblast, but not the pewter. But this little guy seems to have a similar head pattern to a champagne. Really not sure, would love some help with identification.

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...c634dec0_n.jpg

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I have more pictures if y'all need them, but Flickr does not want to let me share them.

(PS I know lots of people have opinions about buying from pet stores instead of breeders, and I see that he has a bad shed. I am planning on quarantining him and helping with the shed. This thread is purely to identify him, not to debate the pitfalls of buying at pet stores, thank you.)

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Originally Posted by madsdura

Hello everyone! Found this snake at a local pet store. No idea what it is, but I would really like to know because I cannot find anything that looks like it. I've gotten close, but the head pattern is really throwing me off.

According to the employee we talked to, this snake arrived labelled as a "Champagne Spotnose". He didn't believe it and asked a snake knowledgable friend who said "Pewter Spider Lemonblast." I think she's right on the spider lemonblast, but not the pewter. But this little guy seems to have a similar head pattern to a champagne. Really not sure, would love some help with identification.

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...c634dec0_n.jpg

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...50e33216_n.jpg

I have more pictures if y'all need them, but Flickr does not want to let me share them.

(PS I know lots of people have opinions about buying from pet stores instead of breeders, and I see that he has a bad shed. I am planning on quarantining him and helping with the shed. This thread is purely to identify him, not to debate the pitfalls of buying at pet stores, thank you.)

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Looks like a pewter blast to me

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Can’t see, but I’ll tell you what....RAT PINKIES AT 3 YEARS?!?! That’s gotta be classified as abuse....just saying


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I think move up in food size asap. Omg pinkies! Wow, just wow. How much does the beep weigh? And can't see pics either.

"Looks like a pewter blast to me."

Okay, thank you! Since I'm still new to this and learning, would you mind answering some questions for me?

1. What makes you say it is a pewter lemonblast? What do you see that helps you determine the morph? (And why not spider? I was almost positive it was spider; he has a little wobble.)

2. Why/how is it yellow? I've googled pewter lemonblast and it seems like a lot of those snakes are more often grey than yellow?

3. Obviously this is very future-thinking, but what would you recommend pairing this little one with in order to prove it out?

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"Looks like a pewter blast to me."

Okay, thank you! Since I'm still new to this and learning, would you mind answering some questions for me?

1. What makes you say it is a pewter lemonblast? What do you see that helps you determine the morph? (And why not spider? I was almost positive it was spider; he has a little wobble.)

2. Why/how is it yellow? I've googled pewter lemonblast and it seems like a lot of those snakes are more often grey than yellow?

3. Obviously this is very future-thinking, but what would you recommend pairing this little one with in order to prove it out?

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First let me correct myself. He's a pewter spinner
Which is cinnamon pastel( in this case it's lemon pastel) pinstripe sipder
The lemon pastel is easy to see the spinner ( spider pin) is the almost lack of pattern save those hash marks. The cinnamon is the faded head color and back it gets difficult to tell with each Gene you add but I've seen enough of these to clearly I'd cinnamon pastel spider pinstripe

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Originally Posted by NJ Balls

Rescued this guy off of Craigslist the own said he’s about three years old and he was feeding him rat pinkies. He’s extremely under weight but I think a little TLC he’ll be okay. Own was selling him as an albino but he clearly has more than one morph. I’m guessi spider, pinstripe, or enchi.

What do do you think?

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Not sure how the other person's post got merged with mine. I gave him a day to settle in and tried feeding him a small rat, he hit it like he hasn't eaten in a month.
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Lol. Someone was damn hungry! Fatten that baby up! Thanks for rescuing him. Happy times to come!

Hmmm, @NJ Balls, I think our titles were too similar and we both posted pictures of relatively similar looking snakes. Not sure why we got merged though. I hope the lovely folks on here are able to identify your snake for you (and maybe take a few guesses at mine). He's cute btw!

@StillBP, thanks for your help and the explanation!

madsdura, I reposted mine under a different title in an attempt to avoid confusion. I'm digging your guy too, he's awesome.

OP, your animal looks to be ab Albino Spider

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Hello everyone! Found this snake at a local pet store. No idea what it is, but I would really like to know because I cannot find anything that looks like it.

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Looks like a pewter blast to me

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Madsdura, your animal is a SuperBlast. That is not a Pewter, there is absolutely no BlkPastel or Cinny in it.

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Madsdura, your animal is a SuperBlast. That is not a Pewter, there is absolutely no BlkPastel or Cinny in it.[/QUOTE]

I'm not going to argue that. Simply because it could be just my phone. But it's kinda grey in my pics. Too grey to say super pastel

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Okay I think it is probably a Super Blast or a Killer Spinner. These two listings on Morph Market are really close; the Killer Spinner is closer for color and pattern, but I can't see her head.

Super Blast : https://www.morphmarket.com/us/c/rep...-pythons/79821

Killer Spinner: https://www.morphmarket.com/us/c/rep...pythons/100169

How would I go about proving this snake out? Pair it with a normal and see what happens? (Obviously, this would be in a few years.)

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Okay I think it is probably a Super Blast or a Killer Spinner. These two listings on Morph Market are really close; the Killer Spinner is closer for color and pattern, but I can't see her head.

Super Blast : https://www.morphmarket.com/us/c/rep...-pythons/79821

Killer Spinner: https://www.morphmarket.com/us/c/rep...pythons/100169

How would I go about proving this snake out? Pair it with a normal and see what happens? (Obviously, this would be in a few years.)

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That's one method. I prefer to pair to a proven breeder that has different genetics this way you can tell who gets what from whom. Tho most will recommend a normal

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I'm not going to argue that. Simply because it could be just my phone. But it's kinda grey in my pics. Too grey to say super pastel

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The "grey" that you are claiming is no where near the grey this animal would be if it were Pewter. Further,

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Okay I think it is probably a Super Blast or a Killer Spinner. These two listings on Morph Market are really close; the Killer Spinner is closer for color and pattern, but I can't see her head.

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There is no white creeping up from the ventrals and the pin-striping is too regular and abundant for it to be a Spinner. It is a SuperBlast :)

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How would I go about proving this snake out? Pair it with a normal and see what happens? (Obviously, this would be in a few years.)

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It need not be a normal, you can breed it to anything without Pastel and Pin. All the babies will be Pastel and (statistically) half will be Pin. For example, Lesser x SuperBlast = EmperorPins and Lesser Pastels and LemonBlasts

Its the closest to a Super Blast. But to me, it looks like something else is mixed in. My Super Blast has more defined pattern. On this snake it almost looks like the pattern is blurred out on the sides and more "speckly" for lack of better words.

It just seems a "bit" different, but definitely something pinstripe and pastel ++

My Super Blast when he was about that size...

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