Wierd looking mice

Hey guys, i just had a question about mice colors variations/morphs or whatever you call them. I posted this is the "other pet" section becuase i plan on keeping this mouse

I had a litter of feeders born , most of them were black, some of them were black and white and two were white, only one was albino (white with red eyes) but the other one was pure white with black eyes.....shes a pretty little mouse, what do you call a mouse with black eyes and a white body, is there even a name ?

If she were a snake i would say id have a leuguistic (please exuse my spelling,lol)

I believe it is leucistic. The mouse fancy may have a name for it (probably just black eyed white) but genetically, it is leucistic. Just like a pinto horse is a genetic piebald.

Thanks shelby :)

No problem.

*whisper* It's just a high white mouse... I have BEW mice that came from breeding a black variegated male with a blaze with a solid mink colored female with a blaze. They aren't leucistic, just high white. :)

I had that thought, but didn't think the mouse would be completely white.

Yeah, it can be pretty common, especially in mice. In rats, it's not as common, and sometimes can result in megacolon, which is why it isn't bred as much.

Ok. It's like with horses, you don't often see a pinto that is completely white.. I thought it was the same way with mice/rats/whatever.

The reason you don't see horses that are completely white is because they usually die from megacolon or the complete lack of a digestive system. There is a gene called the Lethal White gene, and it causes so many devastating problems. It usually occurs when two homozygous paints are bred together, usually overos(tobianos don't seem to have this problem). Sometimes the foal will carry the lethal white gene, and if bred, will pass it on, creating a lethal white baby. But usually they will just exhibit the gene and will die very quickly. It is definately not a fun thing because the foals are usually born without an anus and the rest of the large intestine. Very sad.


Sometimes high white rats can get megacolon. Their colon just keeps distending with hard, compacted feces, and they end up dying from malnurition and failure to thrive. It usually occurs when the rat first becomes weaned and starts eating solid foods, but can occur even while the baby is nursing, or even 6 months down the road... Some have lived up to a year with this condition, usually from having daily enemas, and a special high calorie diet. I haven't really heard of too many mice getting it, so it must not be too common.

Ok, I think that is quite long enough, LoL. I guess I tend to write books when I get going...

Yes, I've heard of lethal white. It's the frame overos I think.

Also two roans bred is a lethal gene.

I have a strange question. Is a white, blue-eyed horse, considered leucistic? :) I believe they are called cremello. Very pretty coloring.
I kow that horsemen say "there are no white horses.. they're all greys." BUT in my opinion, if the skin underneath is pink and not grey/black, and it's not an appy, you've got a white horse.

Yep, and they all get cancer. My equine teacher taught us this: There are grey horses with cancer and there are grey horses that will get cancer. They all will eventually get it, bleh...

Blue-eyed, white horses are called SUNBURNT, LoL. I will never buy a horse that has pink skin, or is grey. Don't want to have to deal with the health issues...

QUESTION...ok this has nothing to do with horses but,,, do you guys have any tips/ secrets to getting mice to breed? a friend of mine and i wanted to start breeding feeders for obvious economical purposes, and its been almost two months with no success. we have like 2 males and 3 or 4 females. thanks

1 male and a few females is all you need. It takes approx. 3 weeks for the female to show any signs of pregnancy, so one may actually be pregnant now. How old are the mice?

pet store sold them as adults, they are about the size of an adult mouse, but they dont look like they just ate a ping pong ball like the ones i saw there at the pet store,, the lady wouldnt sell me her pregnant ones, and actually seemed offended that i even asked.

I have a grey horse, and he has a melanoma on his tail.

I believe perlino horses also have blue eyes. Perlino is double dilute bay, cremello double dilute chestnut... also smoky gray.

bawlzzzzz.. make sure you actually have a male and a female.. also make sure they are not too old.

I think they still got it in them cause as soon as we put the females with the males they start doin it, but like i mean it seems like they arent catching

I just want to make sure you only have one male per cage.. as males will be too busy killing each other to be making babies.

Just because they are mating doesn't mean they are still fertile. Since you have multiple females, I'd guess it's your male that is the issue. Just buy a new set of mice if you want, don't mix and match (ie put in a new male with your old females) as they very well may kill each other!

Yeah, we have to slather the sunscreen on Em when she is outside. I didn't take it into consideration when we bought her, since she was more or less a rescue case. I really wanted her because she had a much better temperament than the other horses we could have taken in. I know I could be called a "suckah" but I just could not imagine this horse going for meat. She has so much character and someone taught her some manners before, because she is just really willing.
But when she comes home, she has a nice big run-in shelter for the hot days next year.