Calico White question

So, I know that I have been really into pieds recently but my fiance is also really into calico / sugars. In all honesty my draw to pieds is the contrast between white and dark patterns and a calico satisfies that (they are also much more in my price range).

Anyway, I've just been perusing morph market and had a small question...do they hatch with the white or does it develop with age? Most of the hatchlings have pinkish tan blushing (if that's the right term) on the sides and I haven't seen a hatchling with actual white sides.
The enchi and mojave calico's are really cool looking and if having a calico instead of a pied gets me another snake...I can certainly live with that:gj:

The pink turns to white. My mocha calico was very pink at hatchling age

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I'm also really wanting a female this time, my male is great - sweet, calm, clean...and up until his last shed was a great eater...now of course he is going through a fast for no reason at all. But the size that the females can reach is a strong draw to me. My male just hit 1200g and it sounded much bigger than it actually is :) when I was originally debating gender...

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Originally Posted by Crowfingers

I'm also really wanting a female this time, my male is great - sweet, calm, clean...and up until his last shed was a great eater...now of course he is going through a fast for no reason at all. But the size that the females can reach is a strong draw to me. My male just hit 1200g and it sounded much bigger than it actually is :) when I was originally debating gender...

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Lol im just about to pick up a 4000+ gram female.
I'm not sure how well you can see how pink he was versus now, but here's difference pics. Top view is most recenthttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...83d62951d2.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...b23e2907c6.jpg

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Originally Posted by Potatoren

Lol im just about to pick up a 4000+ gram female.
I'm not sure how well you can see how pink he was versus now, but here's difference pics. Top view is most recent Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk

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Oooh so cool! thanks for sharing. love the yellows! I wish my male wasn't fading so fast. His browns were so rich and chocolaty when I first got him but hes fading to tan and darker tan with each shed. Still a lovely snake, just not as eye-popping as he was

Maybe look for a darker morph calico if you want the snake to keep good contrast. My cinnamon has stayed very dark with good contrast, so I'd imagine a cinnamon calico would hold contrast really well.

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Originally Posted by artgecko

Maybe look for a darker morph calico if you want the snake to keep good contrast. My cinnamon has stayed very dark with good contrast, so I'd imagine a cinnamon calico would hold contrast really well.

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I would avoid a Cinny combo if your goal is high white in a Calico, the SuperBlk complex seems to dampen the expression of Calico.

For high expression on Calicos combos with Enchi, Spider, and Pastel are your best bet.

I really like the pastel calico's and enchi is always nice.

This is a cropped section of the snake I'm looking at - just to show the pale along the belly

(hope this is enough to give you all an idea of the area I'm talking about) Is the blushing where the white will develop with age? This faded color on the ventral side continues the full length of the body. What do you all think?

[IMG]https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil.../5/capture.jpg[/IMG]

Second question as well - if I were to go pastel calico / pastel sugar - do a pastels eyes stay green when mixed with other morphs?
I just want to know exactly what I want before buying this time :)

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Originally Posted by Crowfingers

Second question as well - if I were to go pastel calico / pastel sugar - do a pastels eyes stay green when mixed with other morphs?
I just want to know exactly what I want before buying this time :)

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Yup
Pastel calico adult male eye for example. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...b6b67f8577.jpg

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Yup
Pastel calico adult male eye for example. https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...b6b67f8577.jpg

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Thanks for the pic too - handsome snake.

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Originally Posted by Crowfingers

I really like the pastel calico's and enchi is always nice.

This is a cropped section of the snake I'm looking at - just to show the pale along the belly

(hope this is enough to give you all an idea of the area I'm talking about) Is the blushing where the white will develop with age? This faded color on the ventral side continues the full length of the body. What do you all think?

[IMG]https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil.../5/capture.jpg[/IMG]

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That's a cool looking pattern.