What's your favorite BP complex?

not your favorite morph, but family of morphs. some times morphs within the complex makes some cool snakes (Super Black Pastel or BEL or Superstripe for example) or they make real cool combo's when other genes are added (Pastel Calibee or Bamboo Enchi for example). as a keeper or breeder, which is your fav?

8-Ball - Black Pastel/Cinnamon, Het Red Axanthic, Huffman, Lori, Razor


Albino - Albino/Lavender Albino, Candy/Toffee


Black Eye Lucy - Brite, Disco, Fire, Flame, Lemonback, Sauce, Sulfur, Vanilla


Blue Eye Lucy - Bamboo, Butter/Lesser,Daddy, Mocha, Mojo, Mystic/Phantom, Russo, Special


Superstripe - Asphalt, Flare, Gravel, Orange Belly, Spark, Spector, YB


Spider - Black Head, Spider

got this list from OWAL: https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...d-allelic-list

i love the albino complex but i am biased. :)

second choice is the 8-ball complex.

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i love the albino complex but i am biased. :)

second choice is the 8-ball complex.

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Albino is my fav morph, it's so classic, so simple and beautiful but i love BlueEL as a whole and their possibilities. :)

This is rigged! You had to throw in Spider :P

partial to spider myself, lol

This is a hard decision....

https://i.imgur.com/gs3pAgK.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/y5ZY3i1.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/xIJa7dA.jpg

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none of the above. I like yellowish/orangish snakes with reduced pattern, especially contrasted black on yellow, I also like some of the stripes.

I could care less about "groups" I just like pretty snakes.

Personally I like the pieds, the clowns, and the highway / freeway complexes, especially if you throw in the pastel.

Freeway (Asphalt / Yellowbelly), an allelic pairing of genes:

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...09a2f422bc.jpg

Pastel Freeway: Stunning!

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...aeee35a612.jpg

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Personally I like the pieds, the clowns, and the highway / freeway complexes, especially if you throw in the pastel.

Freeway (Asphalt / Yellowbelly), an allelic pairing of genes:

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...09a2f422bc.jpg

Pastel Freeway: Stunning!

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...aeee35a612.jpg

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Good taste, I like these also, reminds me of my Super Pastel Piebald
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...k/IMG_0591.jpg

Easy for me. 8B.

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Personally I like the pieds, the clowns, and the highway / freeway complexes, especially if you throw in the pastel.

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those recessives aren't really a complex and the Highways/Freeways are a designer morph combos from the Superstripe complex. :gj:

Huge Bel complex fan. Considering trying to breed one once I'm knowledgeable enough.

I also like spiders and think bees are absolutely awesome.

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Just an FYI, Lav is not part of the Albino complex. :gj:

pieds pieds and more pieds

I am definitely one for the super stripe complex. I have both a super stripe and super specter and my focus is going to be super specters. I absolutely love the striping!

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...GKv6QYFvCm.jpg
My super stripe Pixels

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...CEr4i8Pu3K.jpg
My baby super specter Topaz

B.e.l. complex for sure!
Bamboo, mojave, mystic, lesser/butter... all my fav base morphs!

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ah I misread

As a noob, I'm curious as to what defines a complex? Are they morphs that are challenging to breed or just complex combinations?

Thanks!

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As a noob, I'm curious as to what defines a complex? Are they morphs that are challenging to breed or just complex combinations?

Thanks!

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:) Neither. The nice thing about BPs is that both normals and insane combinations require the exact same care.

A "complex" is a genetics term for genes which are on the same locus as each another. We call them allelic morphs. A few examples are the BEL complex, YB complex, Fire complex, etc...

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:) Neither. The nice thing about BPs is that both normals and insane combinations require the exact same care.

A "complex" is a genetics term for genes which are on the same locus as each another. We call them allelic morphs. A few examples are the BEL complex, YB complex, Fire complex, etc...

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Wow, I was way off! Thanks for the explanation!


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:) Neither. The nice thing about BPs is that both normals and insane combinations require the exact same care.

A "complex" is a genetics term for genes which are on the same locus as each another. We call them allelic morphs. A few examples are the BEL complex, YB complex, Fire complex, etc...

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I'd like to amend, complex a hobby term used to describe the group of allelic genes, the genetic term.

Now I love my BEL, but if we are talking whole complex, it's hard for me not to say BlkEL complex, way too many cool variations.

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I'd like to amend, complex a hobby term used to describe the group of allelic genes, the genetic term.

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Complex, co-dom, and sperm plugs, oh my! :D

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Complex, co-dom, and sperm plugs, oh my! :D

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Paradox, ringer, yeah we like our hobby made terms

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Paradox, ringer, yeah we like our hobby made terms

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They are pretty super!

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I'd like to amend, complex a hobby term used to describe the group of allelic genes, the genetic term.

Now I love my BEL, but if we are talking whole complex, it's hard for me not to say BlkEL complex, way too many cool variations.

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Complex, co-dom, and sperm plugs, oh my! :D

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Paradox, ringer, yeah we like our hobby made terms

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They are pretty super!

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don't forget sausage butt!

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Just an FYI, Lav is not part of the Albino complex. :gj:

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Exactly.

I ended up voting BEL, but that's not really a true reflection of my feelings, more a reflection of what I have and my future breeding plans. I adore the morphs in the cinnamon/BP group and some members of the fire group (mainly vanilla TBH). Lavender all the way, but it shouldn't be grouped with normal albino, candy & toffee...

I find it interesting how it's almost an even spread right now, then blue eyed has a 5x lead

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Originally Posted by Godzilla78

none of the above. I like yellowish/orangish snakes with reduced pattern, especially contrasted black on yellow, I also like some of the stripes.

I could care less about "groups" I just like pretty snakes.

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I just like snakes. They are all pretty in their own distinct way.