Uth not sticking properly

Ok, this driving me crazy. Look at how much is not touching the glass which means it's not a proper hit spot for belly heat. What do I do? You can see the air pocket from the probe.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...b2299dc092.jpg

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You could try to use aluminum foil tape to secure it down.

I have it taped. It still is doin this which is now pointless having belly heat. And I can't put her tank back together until I know how to fix it.

Alumnum foil tape is stronger than... what are you using, packaging tape? It looks clear. If it's packaging tape then I'm not surprised it's not holding. Even duct tape would be a better option.

So do I completely take off the uth put the probe down again and basically start over?

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Originally Posted by Sunnieskys

So do I completely take off the uth put the probe down again and basically start over?

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honestly, you're better off replacing it. there's better options available to you.

look into RBI UltraTherm heat mats. you use aluminum tape to adhere them and can use, reuse and move them around as many times as you please.

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Originally Posted by tttaylorrr

honestly, you're better off replacing it. there's better options available to you.

look into RBI UltraTherm heat mats. you use aluminum tape to adhere them and can use, reuse and move them around as many times as you please.

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Ok so just no belly heat right now? She is gonna be pissed..lol she is in blue right now and already hissing.

I would leave it fro now, your girl will be fine, even in blue. If she ate within the last few days I might bump the ambient up, but if she's not digesting she won't miss the belly heat.

I would try the aluminum tape tomorrow if you don't have any handy. Then you can still upgrade when/if you want to.

She eats today. Ugh...I didn't realize it looked like this. I'm upset with myself over this! Bad snek mommy!

I tried to fix it and now it looks worse than it did before! I'm so pissed!

It doesn't need complete contact 100% with the glass to provide heat to said glass and up through the substrate. Worse case is you need to crank the thermostat higher to achieve the necessary belly heat.

I took the entire damn thing off until I can get a bigger one. I was so pissed it wouldn't stick that it's off. So I went back to the Che and red heat to keep the temps in the hides correct and ambient correct. And I forgot to weigh her in all this...ugh. Hopefully she eats since I probably stressed her out more than normal.

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Originally Posted by Sunnieskys

I took the entire damn thing off until I can get a bigger one. I was so pissed it wouldn't stick that it's off. So I went back to the Che and red heat to keep the temps in the hides correct and ambient correct. And I forgot to weigh her in all this...ugh. Hopefully she eats since I probably stressed her out more than normal.

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if she doesn't eat, it's not the end of the world. you're not a bad snarent! i had the same issues when i used those adhesive UTHs and i was so happy to find ones you can move and remove, so i always recommend the UltraTherms.
you'll figure out what works for you; you'll hack this. [emoji3]

"Snarent" rofl. Love it! I have to wait a little while now before I buy a new uth. I'm still pissy about this!

oh, and she still ate. Lol

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Originally Posted by Sunnieskys

"Snarent" rofl. Love it! I have to wait a little while now before I buy a new uth. I'm still pissy about this!

oh, and she still ate. Lol

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yay!!!!!!!!!
just raise ambient temps a bit higher and she'll be alright without the belly heat for a bit.

The best UTH I have is a square piece of infrared heat mat. It is the same shape as a heating pad, but a paper thin plastic sheet, with solar looking infrared foil in the plastic. Basically a square of heat tape. Is great for a glass tank.

I've had this exact same thing happen to me before I went to a T8 and RHP. Those mats won't stick well when there is a probe jammed in there keeping it all from being flush and sealed up. It doesn't matter what kind of tape you use, its only ever going to hold the edges down while the middle peels away from the air gap created by the probe. They aren't designed this way. I don't know where this idea originated from or what purpose it has, but I found it didn't work for me and had to make adjustments to the way I monitored the temp. I will never use a heat mat again. This is just my opinion. I've found when it comes to these animals, the so-called experts don't even have a clue, its all just best practice for them.

So looking at the ultra therm uth they range between 65-95 degrees so you don't need a tempstat? And will I have the same issue of a bubble where the probe goes?

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Originally Posted by Sunnieskys

So looking at the ultra therm uth they range between 65-95 degrees so you don't need a tempstat? And will I have the same issue of a bubble where the probe goes?

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they do not get as hot as other UTHs and they say you don't need a thermostat, but i still use thermostats with mine. yes there is still the bump issue with the probe, but i've never had issues with it. i've aluminum taped the UTH tight enough to the enclosures and placed the probe off center from where the snake will be spending its time so it's not really an issue (3/4 of my enclosures have the bump; T8 has a probe channel for it to sit in).
there's ways to remedy the bump issue if you're still concerned, however. is your enclosure raised off of whatever it's on? you could get two blocks of styrofoam for the enclosure to sit on and cut a channel into the one on the hot side for the probe to rest in. you could also tape the probe wire to the underside of the UTH (facing the floor), but you can't tape the probe head itself.

It's a 20 long so it is raised but I'm confused about the styrofoam? im not picturing how that would work? I need a crayon drawing Taylor lol

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Originally Posted by Sunnieskys

It's a 20 long so it is raised but I'm confused about the styrofoam? im not picturing how that would work? I need a crayon drawing Taylor lol

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hang on...

i only had colored pens
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Rofl RAD! Now where would the uth go with the styrofoam?

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Originally Posted by Sunnieskys

Rofl RAD! Now where would the uth go with the styrofoam?

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taped to the bottom of the enclosure and resting on the styrofoam. so you have an Enclosure, UTH, probe, styrofoam sandwich.

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Ah gotcha. I'll do that. Thank you for the drawing!

Can we delete posts?

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Originally Posted by tttaylorrr

they do not get as hot as other UTHs and they say you don't need a thermostat, but i still use thermostats with mine. yes there is still the bump issue with the probe, but i've never had issues with it. i've aluminum taped the UTH tight enough to the enclosures and placed the probe off center from where the snake will be spending its time so it's not really an issue (3/4 of my enclosures have the bump; T8 has a probe channel for it to sit in).
there's ways to remedy the bump issue if you're still concerned, however. is your enclosure raised off of whatever it's on? you could get two blocks of styrofoam for the enclosure to sit on and cut a channel into the one on the hot side for the probe to rest in. you could also tape the probe wire to the underside of the UTH (facing the floor), but you can't tape the probe head itself.

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Hi, just wondering about not applying tape directly to probe, what is the reason? I have mine taped to underside of mat right now, getting good temps..

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Originally Posted by Dawntup

Hi, just wondering about not applying tape directly to probe, what is the reason? I have mine taped to underside of mat right now, getting good temps..

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Spyder Robotics Herpstat user manuals specifically state to not cover the probe head due to possible inaccurate readings. if the best thermostats on the market cannot have the probe head covered, then i'm not taking chances on a lesser thermostat.

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Originally Posted by tttaylorrr

Spyder Robotics Herpstat user manuals specifically state to not cover the probe head due to possible inaccurate readings. if the best thermostats on the market cannot have the probe head covered, then i'm not taking chances on a lesser thermostat.

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Thanks for speedy reply. I'm just wondering what the difference is between putting it in styrofoam groove and using tape. Both are kind of insulating it, maybe tape more than foam. Just want to understand if I should change it since it's working great right now.

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Originally Posted by Dawntup

Thanks for speedy reply. I'm just wondering what the difference is between putting it in styrofoam groove and using tape. Both are kind of insulating it, maybe tape more than foam. Just want to understand if I should change it since it's working great right now.

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i use cheaper styrofoam which is less insulating than better options. as long as some of the heat can escape, then it will be better than not allowing any of it to escape.

you can try to make adjustments, because it will be better in the long-run, but if you can't find a way to make it work for you then stick with what you know. [emoji4]

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Originally Posted by tttaylorrr

i use cheaper styrofoam which is less insulating than better options. as long as some of the heat can escape, then it will be better than not allowing any of it to escape.

you can try to make adjustments, because it will be better in the long-run, but if you can't find a way to make it work for you then stick with what you know. [emoji4]

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Ok, thanks for sharing. I like your diagrams. :)