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  • 09-06-2017, 06:45 PM
    OneEyedFox
    Dent in Eye
    So I was holding Calliope today and I noticed one of her eyes has a dent in it. I know someone will ask me about the husbandry so her hotside is at 93°, and her cool side is at 88°. The humidity stays between 44-56 but I bump it up when she's in shed. She has two hides on either side of her tank but prefers to lay out in the open. I can't remember if she shed her eye caps in her last shed, I think she did, I always check, and she's been having really good sheds, all one piece never any issues. Any advice? https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...6800a548e2.jpg


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  • 09-06-2017, 06:49 PM
    OneEyedFox
    Re: Dent in Eye
    Her other eye is fine btw. If that helps


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  • 09-06-2017, 06:51 PM
    OneEyedFox
    Re: Dent in Eye
    She doesn't seem to be having any issues seeing where she's going and everything but I know that this dent in her eye definitely isn't normal


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  • 09-06-2017, 07:03 PM
    KayLynn
    Re: Dent in Eye
    It's probably a hydration issue. What's her humidity at?


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  • 09-06-2017, 07:17 PM
    OneEyedFox
    Re: Dent in Eye
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KayLynn View Post
    It's probably a hydration issue. What's her humidity at?


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    46 on her hot side, 59 on her cool side.


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  • 09-06-2017, 07:21 PM
    ElliotNess
    Bump her humidity up for a few days and see where it gets you...
  • 09-06-2017, 07:31 PM
    OneEyedFox
    Re: Dent in Eye
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ElliotNess View Post
    Bump her humidity up for a few days and see where it gets you...

    So like, bump it up like if she was in shed? Would soaking her in some warm water help a little?


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  • 09-06-2017, 08:04 PM
    tttaylorrr
    Re: Dent in Eye
    personally, i never let humidity drop below 57% ever and try to maintain 60% at all times. IMO your humidity is too low and you're seeing a sign of dehydration: a dented eye. try to go a week with 60% humidity.
  • 09-06-2017, 08:09 PM
    OneEyedFox
    Re: Dent in Eye
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tttaylorrr View Post
    personally, i never let humidity drop below 57% ever and try to maintain 60% at all times. IMO your humidity is too low and you're seeing a sign of dehydration: a dented eye. try to go a week with 60% humidity.

    Thanks, helpful as always. I had always heard 40%-60% but now I know. I have foil over the top of her tank, and I have a bit of a hard time keeping it between fourth and sixty as is (I have to spray it a lot) is there anything else I can do other than covering the top of her tank to keep her humidity up?


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  • 09-06-2017, 08:12 PM
    tttaylorrr
    Re: Dent in Eye
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by OneEyedFox View Post
    Thanks, helpful as always. I had always heard 40%-60% but now I know. I have foil over the top of her tank, and I have a bit of a hard time keeping it between fourth and sixty as is (I have to spray it a lot) is there anything else I can do other than covering the top of her tank to keep her humidity up?


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    i take a damp - not sopping or dripping wet - hand towel and lay it over one hide (warm side does best) and this can buy you almost a week of bumped humidity before needing to re-wet the towel. you could also wet sphagnum moss and tuck it into a hide or just place a ball of it in the enclosure.
  • 09-06-2017, 08:12 PM
    OneEyedFox
    Re: Dent in Eye
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tttaylorrr View Post
    i take a damp - not sopping or dripping wet - hand towel and lay it over one hide (warm side does best) and this can buy you almost a week of bumped humidity. you could also wet sphagnum moss and tuck it into a hide or just place a ball of it in the enclosure.

    Thanks, I'll definitely do that, I'm on it right now lol.


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  • 09-06-2017, 08:13 PM
    tttaylorrr
    Re: Dent in Eye
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by OneEyedFox View Post
    Thanks, I'll definitely do that, I'm on it right now lol.


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    keep us posted!!! [emoji3]
  • 09-06-2017, 09:22 PM
    OneEyedFox
    Re: Dent in Eye
    Well, I just went to check her humidity, and look at her, and her eye has already.... popped back out? Is that the right way to say it? I'm still gonna work on her humidity of course but is that a good sign?


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  • 09-06-2017, 09:39 PM
    tttaylorrr
    Re: Dent in Eye
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by OneEyedFox View Post
    Well, I just went to check her humidity, and look at her, and her eye has already.... popped back out? Is that the right way to say it? I'm still gonna work on her humidity of course but is that a good sign?


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    i don't see a pic /:
    but of course that's a good sign if the eye looks normal! i can almost guarantee with the humidity % you posted you're definitely dealing with a dehydration issue.
  • 09-06-2017, 09:43 PM
    OneEyedFox
    Re: Dent in Eye
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tttaylorrr View Post
    i don't see a pic /:
    but of course that's a good sign if the eye looks normal! i can almost guarantee with the humidity % you posted you're definitely dealing with a dehydration issue.

    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...f2e683dcc4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...4bfc075ac2.jpg

    Yes, I trust that that's probably what it is, I had always been told/heard that the humidity had to be 40%-60% but I will keep it at/above sixty from now on, thank you. Also, this lighting isn't the best, but that's the same eye and it looks like it's back to normal for now.



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  • 09-06-2017, 09:44 PM
    tttaylorrr
    Re: Dent in Eye
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by OneEyedFox View Post
    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...f2e683dcc4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...4bfc075ac2.jpg

    Yes, I trust that that's probably what it is, I had always been told/heard that the humidity had to be 40%-60% but I will keep it at/above sixty from now on, thank you. Also, this lighting isn't the best, but that's the same eye and it looks like it's back to normal for now.



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    looking good to me! try to maintain a 60% humidity and i promise you'll never have this problem again. [emoji4]
  • 09-06-2017, 11:13 PM
    OneEyedFox
    Re: Dent in Eye
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tttaylorrr View Post
    looking good to me! try to maintain a 60% humidity and i promise you'll never have this problem again. [emoji4]

    Humidity's doing well so far. I have a heat lamp on the hot side though so I have a hard time keeping it up on that side. Im planning on getting that moss though. I have the wet rags already in there. (I put one on each hide to be safe)


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  • 09-06-2017, 11:15 PM
    tttaylorrr
    Re: Dent in Eye
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by OneEyedFox View Post
    Humidity's doing well so far. I have a heat lamp on the hot side though so I have a hard time keeping it up on that side. Im planning on getting that moss though. I have the wet rags already in there. (I put one on each hide to be safe)


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    keep monitoring the humidity and your bb will be alright. i have a CHE with my glass enclosure so i know humidity can be tricky, but the towel trick is my go-to.
  • 09-06-2017, 11:28 PM
    Godzilla78
    My first royal had dented eyes and was shedding in dry pieces...horrible. It turned out the guy I bought it from had no idea what he was doing awn was keeping the hatchling in dry, not even warm enough conditions. I finally customized his enclosure to trap humidity and got heating pads and infrared UTH, and now he is thriving. The guy gave me a bottle of "shed helper" or some crap. Since I keep the humidity around 60, he sheds n one big piece and his eyes are always normal now. :D I threw out the "shed helper" as he now sheds perfectly in proper humid environment.
  • 09-06-2017, 11:30 PM
    OneEyedFox
    Re: Dent in Eye
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tttaylorrr View Post
    just keep monitoring humidity and your bb will be alright. i have a CHE with my glass enclosure so i know humidity can be tricky, but the towel trick is my go-to.

    Thanks. At least it was something I was able to fix quickly. Scale rot, mouth rot, RIs, slip skin, and mites are like my worst nightmares. I have a reptile vet in my town but its expensive and sadly they're the type of vet that you have to pay all at once up front, they won't do pay plans. Of corse I'd take her if anything serious like that happened but it would put a good dent in my savings. She's like my child.

    I haven't taken her out of my "collection" on this site yet but my female cat, Nallah that had kittens back in April (I posted about it in the thread talking about how my snake escaped, and talked about how my cat gave birth at the same time that we were getting Calliope out from between my AC unit and my wall) anyways, yeah my cat Nallah ended up being poisoned (after the kittens were fully grown and weaned luckily, two of the four live with me as my pets now) and we had to put her down because it was causing a lot of organ failure and she was dying. She was one of my first pets. She was a cat though, so I wasn't the only one that took care of her, my mom fed her mostly and I was just responsible to the litter box. Calliope solely relies on me though (feeding, cleaning, monitoring husbandry, everything) because no one else knows how to take care of her, so losing her would probably hurt a lot more since she really is completely dependent on me. I couldn't get out of bed for three days when my cat died. I couldn't imagine what it would be like if Calliope got sick and I couldn't take care of her.

    Anyways, sorry for going on that long spiel. I got caught up in the moment. I'm gonna hit the hay. I've got school in the morning.


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  • 09-06-2017, 11:40 PM
    tttaylorrr
    Re: Dent in Eye
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by OneEyedFox View Post
    Thanks. At least it was something I was able to fix quickly. Scale rot, mouth rot, RIs, slip skin, and mites are like my worst nightmares. I have a reptile vet in my town but its expensive and sadly they're the type of vet that you have to pay all at once up front, they won't do pay plans. Of corse I'd take her if anything serious like that happened but it would put a good dent in my savings. She's like my child.

    I haven't taken her out of my "collection" on this site yet but my female cat, Nallah that had kittens back in April (I posted about it in the thread talking about how my snake escaped, and talked about how my cat gave birth at the same time that we were getting Calliope out from between my AC unit and my wall) anyways, yeah my cat Nallah ended up being poisoned (after the kittens were fully grown and weaned luckily, two of the four live with me as my pets now) and we had to put her down because it was causing a lot of organ failure and she was dying. She was one of my first pets. She was a cat though, so I wasn't the only one that took care of her, my mom fed her mostly and I was just responsible to the litter box. Calliope solely relies on me though (feeding, cleaning, monitoring husbandry, everything) because no one else knows how to take care of her, so losing her would probably hurt a lot more since she really is completely dependent on me. I couldn't get out of bed for three days when my cat died. I couldn't imagine what it would be like if Calliope got sick and I couldn't take care of her.

    Anyways, sorry for going on that long spiel. I got caught up in the moment. I'm gonna hit the hay. I've got school in the morning.


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    i'm so sorry about your fur bby. how did that happen??

    i'm sure you take good care of your bbys, but sometimes things happen; we all have made mistake. live and learn, man; we've got your back. [emoji3]
  • 09-06-2017, 11:43 PM
    OneEyedFox
    Re: Dent in Eye
    I love out in the country, lots of stray animals out here. They (neighbors) put out poison to kill any strays that come near their house so they can't go through their trash and make a mess of their yard and stuff. We don't know who does it exactly but someone does it and they're just stray animals so the law doesn't care. It's wrong to do that in my opinion though. My cat ran outside (have you ever tried to stop a cat from running past you? Especially when you don't even know she's there? It's impossible) and she got into something she shouldn't have, and came home and was sick already


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  • 09-07-2017, 05:07 PM
    dr del
    Re: Dent in Eye
    Sorry about your cat. :(

    One of my bp's bonked here eye when in shed once but it all sorted itself out quickly.

    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...deyeshrunk.JPG
  • 09-07-2017, 06:25 PM
    Sonny1318
    It's a humidity issue, raising the humidity should address it. 60% minimum. And maybe it's just me but your tanks temps seem to be on the high side, especially the cool side. I keep mine 88 on the hot and 82 on the cool. And sometimes I feel is that is a degree or two, warmer then nessecary.
  • 09-07-2017, 07:58 PM
    monks98
    Re: Dent in Eye
    When that happens to ours it is 99% of the time a stuck eye cap

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