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  • 09-01-2017, 03:47 PM
    ebbanflo
    When you think you have a normal Ball Python..?
    So, I have recently taken ownership of a beautiful 4 year old BP. I did not know anything about BPs or snakes for that matter a few weeks before receiving him and I quickly did as much research as I could to be prepared for his arrival
    He seems to be very comfortable and has even gotten used to me, showing no signs of fright or anxiety when I handle him / hangout with him.

    So he totally looks like a normal BP to me,and im almost 100% sure he is, but the previous owners spent 275$ on him from the breeder they got him from. They didnt care enough to find out if he was a morph at the time, so no one knows for sure.

    I don't think he is because he looks so normal, but I know normal BPs can be bought for as low as 20$, usually around 40-80$ being 'average'?

    I also don't consider myself an expert(defintely still new to most of this..) by any means and can only guess what qualities constitute 'normal'.

    So Im really just wondering if he is some kind of special morph that happens to look VERY similar to normal which would justify that price or if they just bought a normal BP and got ripped off or from a high end breeder? Maybe thats why hes such a sweet and loving BP.
  • 09-01-2017, 03:50 PM
    Starscream
    Do you have any photos you could share?
  • 09-01-2017, 03:52 PM
    ebbanflo
    [IMG]file:///Users/ebbanmaeda/Desktop/IMG_1842.JPG[/IMG]
  • 09-01-2017, 03:53 PM
    ebbanflo
    Re: When you think you have a normal Ball Python..?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Starscream View Post
    Do you have any photos you could share?

    ahh is there any way to upload a photo straight from your computer? or do you need to use an URL
  • 09-01-2017, 03:53 PM
    tttaylorrr
    Re: When you think you have a normal Ball Python..?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ebbanflo View Post
    [IMG]file:///Users/ebbanmaeda/Desktop/IMG_1842.JPG[/IMG]

    you need to host the images on a website like Imgur.com

    or if you have the photo on your smartphone, download the app Tapatalk and you can easily upload it from there.
  • 09-01-2017, 03:55 PM
    ebbanflo
    Re: When you think you have a normal Ball Python..?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tttaylorrr View Post
    you need to host the images on a website like Imgur.com

    or if you have the photo on your smartphone, download the app Tapatalk and you can easily upload it from there.

    thank you!

    been reading a bunch of your posts, super helpful ive learned so much just from that
  • 09-01-2017, 04:00 PM
    JodanOrNoDan
    Put a picture into your gallery then link to it.

    Some snakes look normal, unless you know what to look for. In this case you are paying for what you can make with it, not what it itself looks like. On the other side of the coin there are normals that look amazing however they will only produce normals when bred. I work a lot with phantoms and enchis which can be boring ugly snakes as single gene animals, but when you pair them with other stuff beautiful things happen.
  • 09-01-2017, 04:01 PM
    ebbanflo
    Re: When you think you have a normal Ball Python..?
  • 09-01-2017, 04:02 PM
    JodanOrNoDan
    I call very healthy normal getting ready to shed.
  • 09-01-2017, 04:05 PM
    ebbanflo
    Re: When you think you have a normal Ball Python..?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JodanOrNoDan View Post
    Put a picture into your gallery then link to it.

    Some snakes look normal, unless you know what to look for. In this case you are paying for what you can make with it, not what it itself looks like. On the other side of the coin there are normals that look amazing however they will only produce normals when bred. I work a lot with phantoms and enchis which can be boring ugly snakes as single gene animals, but when you pair them with other stuff beautiful things happen.


    Ahh that explains a lot,

    I dont care for breeding purposes or even if hes 'valuable' just honestly curious. Ill love him the same no matter what :D:D

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JodanOrNoDan View Post
    I call very healthy normal getting ready to shed.

    Thank you! I trust your opinion.

    Yes that photo was from a few days ago he just shed yesterday without any issues!
  • 09-01-2017, 04:17 PM
    JodanOrNoDan
    Something additional to look into for the original price is that the animal may be het for a recessive gene. For example the animal may be carrying one albino gene where two are required for it to be seen on the animal. If the animal is het for albino and it is bred to a full albino 50% of the babies would appear albino while the other 50% would appear normal but be carrying the albino gene. There are many recessive genes. You may want to ask the original owner if you can.
  • 09-01-2017, 04:37 PM
    Craiga 01453
    Welcome to the forum and the wonderful world of snake keeping!!

    Looks like a normal to me. Definitely deep in shed though. I would suggest bumping your humidity to 65-70% and just leave your snake alone to adjust and properly shed.
  • 09-01-2017, 07:25 PM
    ebbanflo
    Re: When you think you have a normal Ball Python..?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by craigafrechette View Post
    Welcome to the forum and the wonderful world of snake keeping!!

    Looks like a normal to me. Definitely deep in shed though. I would suggest bumping your humidity to 65-70% and just leave your snake alone to adjust and properly shed.

    Thank you! This community seems to be full
    Of incredible people and more
    Importantly
    Beautiful snakes!!

    And thank you, yes I bumped it to 70 and he shed earlier no problems at all!

    I do have trouble keeping it down sometimes
    Though, still figuring things out and always willing to ask for advice so thank you all so
    Much


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  • 09-01-2017, 08:06 PM
    Angela1133
    Re: When you think you have a normal Ball Python..?
    Just remember when in shed try not to disturb him because it could stress him out. Gorgeous python! Congrats on your new forever friend! I'm new to the board and have been visiting a lot and this is a great place for info!
  • 09-01-2017, 08:07 PM
    ebbanflo
    Re: When you think you have a normal Ball Python..?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Angela1133 View Post
    Just remember when in shed try not to disturb him because it could stress him out. Gorgeous python! Congrats on your new forever friend! I'm new to the board and have been visiting a lot and this is a great place for info!

    Thank you!

    Yes actually I researched blue eyes after I took that photo and realized he was in shed, which I didn't know about. I immediately put him back, and a few days later (earlier ha) he shed without an issue!


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  • 09-01-2017, 09:10 PM
    wolfy-hound
    If you're not going to breed, it doesn't matter what genes he has. With that high of a price, if he is het for something(carrying recessive genes for a morph) then it would be either multiple morphs, or a new rare morph. Otherwise I can't think of why a breeder would charge that much for a male.

    As long as he's happy and healthy, it doesn't matter what hidden genes he has since you're not going to breed him. He's a lovely normal looking ball. Enjoy him.
  • 09-01-2017, 09:11 PM
    ebbanflo
    Re: When you think you have a normal Ball Python..?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wolfy-hound View Post
    If you're not going to breed, it doesn't matter what genes he has. With that high of a price, if he is het for something(carrying recessive genes for a morph) then it would be either multiple morphs, or a new rare morph. Otherwise I can't think of why a breeder would charge that much for a male.

    As long as he's happy and healthy, it doesn't matter what hidden genes he has since you're not going to breed him. He's a lovely normal looking ball. Enjoy him.

    Well put! All I want is for
    Him to live healthy and happy in a ball.


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  • 09-01-2017, 10:19 PM
    Sunnieskys
    He is beautiful even in blue.
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