Mass of questions

Just thought this should go here rather than like five threads.

First, I have kept balls before, I also used to breed and sell Kenyans locally. I was just starting into breeding BPs (buying youngsters) and Simone stole all my animals. Never recovered them, and just now years later getting started again. I have decided BPs would be best, for now. I did miss them!

So I am supposed to pick up two females, a three year old fire and a two year old normal. No weights, these where pets. Is 150$ a good price? She is either the cleanest pastel I have seen or a fire, no question about that!

Now I looked at the frugal herpers rack, would there be one that would work for 41 quart tubs? They don't even need cut, I use lids.

Thanks for your time!

$150 for both of them?

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Yes for two. Sorry, that was not clear.

I'd say $75 a snake is a nice price for any morph.

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Originally Posted by AmberDrakon

So I am supposed to pick up two females, a three year old fire and a two year old normal. No weights, these where pets. Is 150$ a good price? She is either the cleanest pastel I have seen or a fire, no question about that!

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if they're healthy and at breeding size, sure. i also think u might be able to negotiate a little better price.

also if u are unsure whether it's a Pastel or Fire, just post her pix here and someone can help u ID it: https://ball-pythons.net/forums/foru...-Morph-Is-This

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Now I looked at the frugal herpers rack, would there be one that would work for 41 quart tubs? They don't even need cut, I use lids.

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haven't heard of Frugal Herpers Rack so i looked it up. this one?: https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...r-s-Snake-Rack it's a DIY rack. i'm sure u can find a tiered shelving unit that can fit the dimensions of a 41quart tub. it's a DIY project and the same principals would apply.

I will try to talk him down a bit, just because it's Craigslist. So at that age, feeding on small rats at least weekly they are likely breeding size? Cool beans, they may go this year!

I do have a normal male I've had a while, a normal that was eaten up by a rat I rescued. He will be okay for my first year!

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I will try to talk him down a bit, just because it's Craigslist. So at that age, feeding on small rats at least weekly they are likely breeding size? Cool beans, they may go this year!

I do have a normal male I've had a while, a normal that was eaten up by a rat I rescued. He will be okay for my first year!

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Please don't intentionally make normals unless you intend to give them away.

May I ask why? I do have several people who would want a snake as a pet. I mean, I know there are tonns of morons out there but there are also good homes, if you put in the work to find them.

It's a math thing. A baby normal is worth 5 or 10 dollars. Costs about a buck a week to feed one. So if i read your stuff right, you are going to breed a normal to a normal and a fire. Let's say you get a total of 12 eggs. About 3 are going to be fires. That leaves you 9 normals x best case you sell them in 3 feedings. You have now spent 27 dollars feeding normals plus the time and equipment to produce them. There is about zero demand for normals so odds are that you keep them past the three feedings. Unless you have supers or ALS to breed to normals it just is not worth it. Dont' get me wrong, a normal is just as good a pet as a $3000 animal. My best "pet" is a huge female normal. Right now out of the 50 animals in my permanent collection and the 50+ I produced this year only three are normals. I will keep normal females, but only because I have stuff to breed to them that produces zero normals.

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May I ask why? I do have several people who would want a snake as a pet. I mean, I know there are tonns of morons out there but there are also good homes, if you put in the work to find them.

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There is just incredibly little demand for normals in a market flooded with morphs. Even beginning hobbyists frequently are looking for a morph over normals at this point. Basically just be prepared to care for them for a fairly long while and expect some time to find homes for them if you make a clutch of all normals.


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Okay, now that makes more sense. Thank you for explaining! So you are saying I should try and find a yearling male that's at least one gene, or more. I know I want to breed dom and codom stuff right now, so would a spider or a Mohave be a good choice? How is the morph market right now anyways? Two weeks from tomorrow I will start looking, but what and where would you recommend? I probably can't spend more than 150$ total, unless you think I have time, missing the first year would be disappointing!

It would be a shame to have two males, and one for no reason, but Nix has been such an awesome pet...

I also have a coworker with a normal female she may give me. Young, but breeding age. I am excited, but I think it's too early to set up the incubator!

Substrate, now on Nix I use aspen because he likes to move paper towel. The galls are used to that coconut fiber junk, would you leave them on that for now and switch them later? I used to like exo earth, it heals humidity and I can always nice them in feeding day.

It may be wise to look around and find a Super or ALS male. You might be able to get a Super Pastel male in that range. Be careful if you are tight on funds. One vet visit is going to cost more than the snake.

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It may be wise to look around and find a Super or ALS male. You might be able to get a Super Pastel male in that range. Be careful if you are tight on funds. One vet visit is going to cost more than the snake.

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Vet fund is why the budget is so low!

ALS?

So super YB is probably out unless I am stupidly lucky. Only breeder male in this area at the moment is a pied, not something I want at this time!

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Vet fund is why the budget is so low!

ALS?

So super YB is probably out unless I am stupidly lucky. Only breeder male in this area at the moment is a pied, not something I want at this time!

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Hobby terminology..

ALS == Acts Like Super

Examples...
Purple Passion (Mojave/Phantom)
Highway (Gravel/Yellowbelly)
Crystal (Mojave/Special)

None of the snakes will ever make a normal.

I actually am not familiar with those! I'll have a look around!

Picked them up and I am somewhat upset. I had assumed they where adult sized females... Underweight and very small. Gotta go get smaller tubs and also weigh them tomorrow. I mean these galls are TINY.