possible new addition: which of these two girls?
#1
or
#2
so i'm getting the itch. since both of my beeps are pretty light-colored i wanted to find something very dark to offset my collection...then i found these gorgeous babies. i was torn between a boy (because possible breeding future) or a girl. but i think, since i am no where ready to have any type of breeding plans, i'll stick with a girl.
i'm also worried about defects. since they're being sold and have no indications on MM that there's an issue with them, i am to assume the animal is healthy, yes? i don't see any duck-bill.
still just in the itch phase...not sure if i should go ahead and scratch just yet. :P
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Gorgeous babies! And Bradford Cole is one of the best in the biz... you can always check with him about possible defects, but I'd trust his quality.
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ladywhipple02
Gorgeous babies! And Bradford Cole is one of the best in the biz... you can always check with him about possible defects, but I'd trust his quality.
we've already emailed back and forth; he'll be sending me more pics soon. i'll keep this updated, but you didn't help me pick one!!! :P
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tttaylorrr
we've already emailed back and forth; he'll be sending me more pics soon. i'll keep this updated, but you didn't help me pick one!!! :P
Sorry! Based purely on looks and personal preference... I like the girl the best. I like those brown/paradox splotches and she seems to be a bit more silvery to me.
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JodanOrNoDan
I say, if you want to go dark, go Suma. No genetic defects that I am aware of. I don't like to encourage the cinny x cinny breeding.
that's a good point about encouraging this breeding pair...now you got me all morally conflicted.
there's a SUMA Het Albino on MM but he's in Canada, and the Eight Ball i was watching got put on hold. :(
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ladywhipple02
Sorry! Based purely on looks and personal preference... I like the girl the best. I like those brown/paradox splotches and she seems to be a bit more silvery to me.
just teasing. so #2? i kinda like her better, too.
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JodanOrNoDan
I almost bought an 8 ball last year but decided to wait on a nice suma deal (which has not happened yet). It's up to you though. It's your money and no one is going to crucify you. It's just my own thought process. Same reason I won't buy or produce Super Lessers.
this itch is just getting to me! lol. i'd hope no one would crucify me if it works out. :please: they're a really beautiful morph despite what happens to most babies. how did this guy get so lucky, i wonder.
are Cinnamons themselves prone to kinking/defects when bred to other morphs or just the super cinns?
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ladywhipple02
Sorry! Based purely on looks and personal preference... I like the girl the best. I like those brown/paradox splotches and she seems to be a bit more silvery to me.
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They are both girls.
I pick number 2
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tttaylorrr
:please: they're a really beautiful morph despite what happens to most babies.
What happens to most babies?
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RickyNY
What happens to most babies?
MAJOR kinking, which is in inevitable with this pairing. the fact that there are baby beeps without kinking or duck-billing (another common defect) is quite a feat.
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JodanOrNoDan
According to OWAL, the cinnys and the black pastels are known for duckbill and kinking only in the super form. I saw a panda pied hatchling that had a 90 degree kink an inch behind the head. It is the animal that convinced me I would just never go there. I hatched a single badly kinked baby this year that needed to be put down and that was a breeding that was "safe". I hate to have to put animals down so to knowingly make a pairing that is known for a high deformity rate is just not my cup of tea.
i always appreciate your input, always. i know the fact there are healthy bbys means there are many dead ones...
idk. i'd really like a beautiful super cinnamon...i just don't want to promote a dangerous part of this hobby at the expense of these animals...ugh.
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hollowlaughter
Suma is definitely a great pick if you're in the market for dark solids. Black Pastel/Cinnamon cross spares some of the risks of the SuCin or SuBP with a similar look. I'm
really fond of this coloration type, like
this is one of the most beautiful snakes I've seen. But I, personally, won't purchase the supers due to the genetic issues.
WHAT THE HECK IS THAT?!?? [emoji7][emoji7][emoji7]
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SinCitySerpents
I believe that's a super black pastel or a summa+bp/cin that is paradox(not generally considered a genetically replicate-able anomaly) ...that one rivals the albino super banded paradox I saw a pic of :)
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hollowlaughter
Yep, SuBP Paradox.
what an absolutely beautiful animal...just wow. thanks for sharing.
