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A sauna as an incubator?

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  • 07-27-2017, 02:50 PM
    cchardwick
    A sauna as an incubator?
    I'm considering buying a four person sauna to use as a walk in incubator, has anyone ever tried it? Seems like I could bypass the IR heaters and run my own heat and humidity for ball python egg hatching. I can get a used 4 person sauna for about $250, it's the portable kind made out of cedar, I could fit it in a corner of my snake room.
  • 07-27-2017, 02:52 PM
    Reinz
    Dude! You're such a trailblazer! :)
  • 07-27-2017, 03:02 PM
    JodanOrNoDan
    I am thinking that cedar might not the best material.
  • 07-27-2017, 03:18 PM
    AbsoluteApril
    Cedar is toxic to reptiles.
  • 07-27-2017, 03:23 PM
    Reinz
    Re: A sauna as an incubator?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AbsoluteApril View Post
    Cedar is toxic to reptiles.

    For sure, on contact. But do we know that breathing the aroma is toxic? Not debating, just curious.
  • 07-27-2017, 03:29 PM
    BPGator
    A sauna as an incubator?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Reinz View Post
    For sure, on contact. But do we know that breathing the aroma is toxic? Not debating, just curious.

    I'd imagine the wood is sealed too since it's designed to be used in a highly humid environment.


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  • 07-27-2017, 04:11 PM
    cchardwick
    I could always add a clear top coat to seal it.
  • 07-27-2017, 11:31 PM
    Ogre
    Re: A sauna as an incubator?
    I used google, apparently the 'vapors' are toxic. It causes lung damage in rats I wouldn't risk it with beeps. Maybe with a good sealant that is silicone based.
  • 07-28-2017, 04:09 AM
    Reinz
    Re: A sauna as an incubator?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ogre View Post
    I used google, apparently the 'vapors' are toxic. It causes lung damage in rats I wouldn't risk it with beeps. Maybe with a good sealant that is silicone based.

    Thanks for looking that up! :)
  • 07-28-2017, 09:43 AM
    JodanOrNoDan
    Re: A sauna as an incubator?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ogre View Post
    I used google, apparently the 'vapors' are toxic. It causes lung damage in rats I wouldn't risk it with beeps. Maybe with a good sealant that is silicone based.

    Not worth it in my opinion. The risks outweigh the benefits. When I need to work with cedar, I do it in a very well ventilated area and I wear a mask. If I don't want to breathe it, it is not the right thing for my animals.
  • 07-28-2017, 10:05 AM
    Kcl
    Re: A sauna as an incubator?
    The compounds that create the scent are the same as those that cause lung irritation/damage, as it is the aromatic phenols.

    PPE for one of the phenols present includes respirators. Of course, that is for the compound itself which is going to be much stronger.

    http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/...g=en&region=US

    I wouldn't think the problematic molecules would be small enough to cross the egg barrier, but would it be a problem when they pipped and were crawling out? I don't know.
  • 07-28-2017, 02:32 PM
    Ogre
    Re: A sauna as an incubator?
    I guess it depends on if the whole thing is cedar construction, I doubt it due to the expense . You could strip the cedar out and replace it with something else like some sort of acrylic sheeting. It would probably double your cost though.

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  • 07-29-2017, 10:43 PM
    cchardwick
    I'm actually thinking of spraying a clear coat sealer on the inside, then lining the inside with thick insulation, like the Styrofoam type, then maybe putting a top layer of plastic sheeting on top of that. I'm sure I can totally seal up the cedar in there. I really like how it would have a professional look to it and could hold a whole bunch of eggs, it even comes wired with lights and a stereo system LOL. The seller seems very motivated to sell it. Here's what it looks like:

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om%2Fsauna.jpg
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