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Recieved my first Apodora Papuana Female
So I just received my first Apodora from Joe Switalski with JS Reptiles. Great guy. I am super pumped to have the privilege of owning one of these amazing critters.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...2c9088acd0.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...dc83a3fd07.jpg
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Congrats man, that is sooo Awesome! :bow:
An Olive Pappy is at the TOP of my dream list!
Sure hope to see more of that girl. :)
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Congrats man, that is sooo Awesome! [emoji144]
An Olive Pappy is at the TOP of my dream list!
Sure hope to see more of that girl. :)
You will my friend.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...575251a362.jpg
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Beautiful animal Rage! She's got some good size on her too. How old is she?
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I'm guessing between 2 and 3 years old. She is an import so it is hard to tell. I have to go off of her size.
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She's gorgeous Rage. I'm loving her shimmering iridescence :). Keep the pictures flowing with this one. I've had a yearling male Australian Olive for about 6 months and he's quickly becoming one of my favorites. Like your girl, he's very nice to handle. The biggest difference I've noticed so far between the 2 Olive species is the shorter snouts on the Papuanas. The size and coloration are pretty similar. I'm very curious to see other similarities and differences as they grow.
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She's gorgeous Rage. I'm loving her shimmering iridescence :). Keep the pictures flowing with this one. I've had a yearling male Australian Olive for about 6 months and he's quickly becoming one of my favorites. Like your girl, he's very nice to handle. The biggest difference I've noticed so far between the 2 Olive species is the shorter snouts on the Papuanas. The size and coloration are pretty similar. I'm very curious to see other similarities and differences as they grow.
Yeah the head structure is completely different. But other than that they seem similar.
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Head shape is interesting in these papuans. This quote is part of Dave's response to a question sent to VPI. Link below for full version.
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The Papuan pythons from the eastern half of New Guinea are bigger and have a longer head than the Papuans from the Western Papua end of New Guinea. I haven't seen specimens from Biak, but the few Misool animals I have seen look the same as the Western Papuan specimens from the Sorong area that are the variety most commonly encountered in captivity.
http://vpi.com/mailbag/2006/11/papuan_python_variation
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The critter and the enclosure are both exemplary Rage.
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Congrats.
You are part of an elite group when you own one of those!
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This girl only seems to want chicken. She has eaten a Juvie chicken and then this week I thawed out 2 chicken drumsticks and she ate those with gusto. Need to try and get her to eat something else. I think I might save the chicken juice and put it on a rat and see if she will take it.
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This girl only seems to want chicken. She has eaten a Juvie chicken and then this week I thawed out 2 chicken drumsticks and she ate those with gusto. Need to try and get her to eat something else. I think I might save the chicken juice and put it on a rat and see if she will take it.
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Bet she'll eat anything eventually. Even other snakes. If you know folks/breeders with baby snakes that didn't make it it might be an option.
She's awesome and larger than I thought.
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Stunning! :O You're very lucky to have such a magnificent snake.
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That's simply fantastic and beautiful!
How busy is that one? Is it a climber?
You are really on to something with that species!
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That's simply fantastic and beautiful!
How busy is that one? Is it a climber?
You are really on to something with that species!
Yes she is very busy and tries to climb on everything. She is so gentle. The only time she has ever struck at me was while she was in shed. I am truly looking forward to making some headway with this species in the future.
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Yes she is very busy and tries to climb on everything. She is so gentle. The only time she has ever struck at me was while she was in shed. I am truly looking forward to making some headway with this species in the future.
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Well done! My curiosity is peaked. I wonder how these differ in habits than the Aussie Olives. These seem to be more arboreal. I know the Aussie Olives don't have a prehensile tail but they will climb.
Olives and Papuans are certainly different in looks and it appears in behavior as well.
I want to know more!!
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Well done! My curiosity is peaked. I wonder how these differ in habits than the Aussie Olives. These seem to be more arboreal. I know the Aussie Olives don't have a prehensile tail but they will climb.
Olives and Papuans are certainly different in looks and it appears in behavior as well.
I want to know more!!
I will post as I learn. I think the Apodora are much cooler than the Aussie olives. They look so very different. They are justifiably a separate species. I plan to get a lot more of them.
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I will post as I learn. I think the Apodora are much cooler than the Aussie olives. They look so very different. They are justifiably a separate species. I plan to get a lot more of them.
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Keep us posted!
I'm digging this thread!
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Your girl is looking great Rage! Do you keep Aussie Olives as well? If so, what are some of the physical and behavioral differences you've seen between the two species? Is your girl eating rodents now or does she still prefer chicks? How much/how often do you feed her?
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Congrats! These are beautiful creatures!
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Your girl is looking great Rage! Do you keep Aussie Olives as well? If so, what are some of the physical and behavioral differences you've seen between the two species? Is your girl eating rodents now or does she still prefer chicks? How much/how often do you feed her?
Thanks. I thinks she looks fantastic as well. I do not keep Aussie Olives so I have no first hand experience with them. I have heard that the Aussies can be a bit more cantankerous. As far as physically the head structure is completely different. Papuans have more of a blunt bullish head whereas the Aussie olives have a longer more pointed head. My girl has not switched to rodents yet, but to be honest I haven't really tried that hard. She is eating 2-3lb chickens. And chicken drum sticks for now. Once she is out of quarantine I will be trying to switch her over. She is eating every 12 to 15 days depending on how hungry I think she looks.
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Can't wait to get some more of these.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...ec2b081d6e.jpg
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Never gets old!!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...cb51cf28fa.jpg
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Lady Calypso is looking as lovely as ever Rage. She looks like a sweetie. I doubt she's so friendly at feeding time. :)
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Lady Calypso is looking as lovely as ever Rage. She looks like a sweetie. I doubt she's so friendly at feeding time. :)
She is a very gentle feeder.
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Wow that is one gorgeous looking snake. You really got me curious about them. Keep the pics coming!
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I caught Calypso soaking last night. Picture sucks however I have found that she does this about once a month and a half or so. I am really enjoying the difference in behavior in this species. Variety is the spice of life.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...7c1d83a6ea.jpg
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This girl is putting on some size! I am pretty pumped about her male counterpart making his way down to Texas in a month or so.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...983fa3fcab.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...9eb4aad71e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...827c850be3.jpg
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WOW!!! I don't know how I missed this thread but she is a looker!!! Congratulations on a nice addition.
Is that her eating reptilinks?
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WOW!!! I don't know how I missed this thread but she is a looker!!! Congratulations on a nice addition.
Is that her eating reptilinks?
Yes. She eats them like candy bars.
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Whatta Beauty!!
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WOW!!! I don't know how I missed this thread but she is a looker!!! Congratulations on a nice addition.
Is that her eating reptilinks?
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Yes. She eats them like candy bars.
impressive!
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Not my pictures.
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very cool!
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so u will be breeding this pair in a couple years? would be nice to have more variety in the snake game including Apodora's.
Edit: do they grow into their eyes? seems like they have big eyes as hatchlings/juvies but your 1.0 eyes now seem proportional. i'm asking as a BP fan as some of our BP designer morphs have big, bug eyes.
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very cool!
so u will be breeding this pair in a couple years? would be nice to have more variety in the snake game including Apodora's.
Edit: do they grow into their eyes? seems like they have big eyes as hatchlings/juvies but your 1.0 eyes now seem proportional. i'm asking as a BP fan as some of our BP designer morphs have big, bug eyes.
In my opinion the adults eyes are proportional to the rest of their body. The baby's just look a little goofy. I do plan on attempting to breed them in a few years. Hopefully I'm successful.
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Having a little fun with Calypso's led lights.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...b161a8bfdb.jpg
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[B]Some Things I have noticed with Apodora Papuana[/B]
For the most part they are pretty laid back. My female is a bit cage defensive however once you have your hands on her she becomes completely placid. They put their food to growth in a ridiculous way. It is my theory that they are eating more birds and reptiles in the wild. Taking from my observation with my girl and the observations of other keepers of Papuans that I have talked to, they do not seem to digest high fat prey items very well. When fed birds their stool is solid and more digested. When given large fat rats their stool tends to be loose and not digested as well. This is just my theory so dont take it as gospel. As of right now my girl has eaten chicken of all types, quail reptilinks, guinea fowl reptilinks, and quail rabbit blend reptilinks.
As far as temperature is concerned they seem to like it on the cooler side unless they are digesting. I run her cage with a hot spot of about 85.5 deg f and a cool side of 77-80 deg f. The only time that I see her on her hot side is when she is digesting or at the tail end of her shed cycle. She soaks for about 24 hours once a month during her shed cycle. These snakes seem to use every bit of there environment. She burrows and climbs so I make sure she has all of that in her cage. Please let me know if you have any questions and I will update as I become a better student of the serpent.
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She really likes to burrow. Such different snakes.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...710353dd49.jpg
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So I recieved my male CBB Apodora Papuana this morning. He is flawless! So happy to have this pair completed.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...7f5477ff36.jpg
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His name is Odisseus
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Recieved my first Apodora Papuana Female
Hey Rage, congrats on Osisseius. He’s a fine looking fella.
I picked up an Aussie Olive not too long ago. I would have sworn that she was the spawn of Satan. She was more that cage defensive, she was cage AGGRESSIVE!
If I just walked into the room she would charge from the back of cage and machine gun strike the glass until I went away. If I opened the glass she would come flying out with mouth wide open. But the funny thing was, once I handeled her she was calm as can be.
I work with her diligently every night with exception to food and shed of course. She has come a long way and is not quite so bad in the cage now.
I really look forward to your [emoji4] first clutch of Pappies.
Oh, I like his name too!
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Olivia, Aussie Olive Python, 4 month old here and about 3.5 feet.
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Hey Rage, congrats on Osisseius. He’s a fine looking fella.
I picked up an Aussie Olive not too long ago. I would have sworn that she was the spawn of Satan. She was more that cage defensive, she was cage AGGRESSIVE!
If I just walked into the room she would charge from the back of cage and machine gun strike the glass until I went away. If I opened the glass she would come flying out with mouth wide open. But the funny thing was, once I handeled her she was calm as can be.
I work with her diligently every night with exception to food and shed of course. She has come a long way and is not quite so bad in the cage now.
I really look forward to your [emoji4] first clutch of Pappies.
Oh, I like his name too!
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Olivia, Aussie Olive Python, 4 month old here and about 3.5 feet.
Awesome. Yeah my big female is like that while she is in the cage but as soon as you pull her out she is calm.
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