Bubbles around mouth

I got my adult red tail about 2 weeks ago and have been keeping him in the proper cage with proper heat and humidity. Today I took him out side for the first time since I've had him. Took him out side and he started weeding and making strange noises. He then blew bubbles out of his nose and some out of his mouth. I don't know what had caused this. My gf was holding him and she put tea tree oil in her hair today, could that have triggered a reaction like this? What should be my course of action, I live in the middle of SD and have no reptile vets anywhere near me. What do I do?


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Originally Posted by dylan815

I got my adult red tail about 2 weeks ago and have been keeping him in the proper cage with proper heat and humidity. Today I took him out side for the first time since I've had him. Took him out side and he started weeding and making strange noises. He then blew bubbles out of his nose and some out of his mouth. I don't know what had caused this. My gf was holding him and she put tea tree oil in her hair today, could that have triggered a reaction like this? What should be my course of action, I live in the middle of SD and have no reptile vets anywhere near me. What do I do?


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It sounds like a respiratory infection. I have treated them all myself. If you can get ahold of a fogger and f10 solution use it... Most of mine, just moving them into a rack with really high humidity and strictly controlled temp towards the high side for the species (usually around 88-90) with a small night drop (85ish) has cleared it up within a week or 2.

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What is f10 solution? His hot side is 90 and it drops to 85 at night. What humidity should I keep him at?


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Originally Posted by xotikpetz

It sounds like a respiratory infection. I have treated them all myself. If you can get ahold of a fogger and f10 solution use it... Most of mine, just moving them into a rack with really high humidity and strictly controlled temp towards the high side for the species (usually around 88-90) with a small night drop (85ish) has cleared it up within a week or 2.

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Where can I get f10? And what is it?


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You need to get some treatment started. You also need to check and recheck your husbandry.

I would just keep it as close to 100 percent as you can.

F10 is a veterinary disinfectant.

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I would just keep it as close to 100 percent as you can.

F10 is a veterinary disinfectant.

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Okay, is there any other way to administer the f10 besides a fogged? Money is extremely tight and I can't afford one this month. Where can I buy f10 from?



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Okay, is there any other way to administer the f10 besides a fogged? Money is extremely tight and I can't afford one this month. Where can I buy f10 from?



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Last time I got it I ordered online... You could probably get away with a bath in it. It isnt as important as temp/humidity for it right now though.

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Last time I got it I ordered online... You could probably get away with a bath in it. It isnt as important as temp/humidity for it right now though.

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So to recap, increase humidity as much as possible and keep temps at 90 in the day and 85 at night? But f10 from online and go from there?


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That's how I would approach it

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That's how I would approach it

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Thank you everyone. He is my first "big snake" and I really want him to be okay. He's also the only snake I've ever bough online.



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No problem! I own a shop and am always skeptical getting things online. I deal exclusively with breeders and shows now.

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That's how I would approach it

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I will post an update in a week or two


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No problem! I own a shop and am always skeptical getting things online. I deal exclusively with breeders and shows now.

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I would much rather deal with breeadersand shows. It's just that I live in the middle of South Dakota. There are no reptile shows or breeders.


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Last time I got it I ordered online... You could probably get away with a bath in it. It isnt as important as temp/humidity for it right now though.

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Does someone want to tell me just how bathing a snake in f10 is going to help an internal infection? Not too flipping likely.

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Does someone want to tell me just how bathing a snake in f10 is going to help an internal infection? Not too flipping likely.

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Lol... I think it is funny how trolls pop up even in forums like this.

I ask have you ever gone swimming and never gotten water in your mouth? It is the sterility... I offered it as a suggestion if there is no way to fog. Is it as effective? No, not by any means... Will it help? Helps more than not doing it.

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Your snake needs to be seen by a vet. It is not at all recommended to try to treat a respiratory infection on your own. Use this website to find a reptile veterinarian in your area: http://arav.site-ym.com/search/custom.asp?id=3661.

It is also important to note that tea tree oil is toxic to reptiles. You should never ever use tree oils (or any other essential oil) around your snake, or handle the snake after applying the oils to your body/hair.

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Originally Posted by mlededee

Your snake needs to be seen by a vet. It is not at all recommended to try to treat a respiratory infection on your own. Use this website to find a reptile veterinarian in your area: http://arav.site-ym.com/search/custom.asp?id=3661.

It is also important to note that tea tree oil is toxic to reptiles. You should never ever use tree oils (or any other essential oil) around your snake, or handle the snake after applying the oils to your body/hair.

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That is so much help. Thank you. He seemed perfectly fine untill my girl friend had him crawling around her a few hour after she treated her hair with tree oil. I think the tea tree oil is the real problem here.


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Lol... I think it is funny how trolls pop up even in forums like this.

I ask have you ever gone swimming and never gotten water in your mouth? It is the sterility... I offered it as a suggestion if there is no way to fog. Is it as effective? No, not by any means... Will it help? Helps more than not doing it.

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I am not a troll, I am a breeder. I do not want the op getting questionable info.

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I ask have you ever gone swimming and never gotten water in your mouth? It is the sterility... I offered it as a suggestion if there is no way to fog. Is it as effective? No, not by any means... Will it help? Helps more than not doing it.

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There is a BIG difference between getting something in your mouth and breathing it into your lungs.

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Originally Posted by mlededee

Your snake needs to be seen by a vet. It is not at all recommended to try to treat a respiratory infection on your own. Use this website to find a reptile veterinarian in your area: http://arav.site-ym.com/search/custom.asp?id=3661.

It is also important to note that tea tree oil is toxic to reptiles. You should never ever use tree oils (or any other essential oil) around your snake, or handle the snake after applying the oils to your body/hair.

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Do you think the tree oil could be the root of the problem? He has showed no other signs of a RI BEFORE today when he came into contact with the tea tree oil.


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There is a BIG difference between getting something in your mouth and breathing it into your lungs.

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There is... When at the pool do you smell chemicals? Thats because youre breathing them in. He came here looking for advice, I have kept snakes for almost 20 years, and offered my experience, amd bred for the last 6. I have had more than a few instances of respiratory infections and spent a lot of money at veterinarians, only to have them do the same things I was already doing.

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And apparently I cant grammar when I am distracted... But you get the idea

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Do you think the tree oil could be the root of the problem? He has showed no other signs of a RI BEFORE today when he came into contact with the tea tree oil.

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Usually when a snake comes into contact with an essential oil the symptoms are more neurological, but it might be a possibility. I would keep a very close eye on the snake for any other unusual behavior--moving oddly, weakness, loss of coordination, seizures, etc. If you see anything like that you should rush the snake to a vet immediately. I would recommend bathing the snake in a bath with some blue Dawn dish soap diluted in it to remove any oil that might have gotten on its skin. Rinse well after the bath.

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There is... When at the pool do you smell chemicals? Thats because youre breathing them in. He came here looking for advice, I have kept snakes for almost 20 years, and offered my experience, amd bred for the last 6. I have had more than a few instances of respiratory infections and spent a lot of money at veterinarians, only to have them do the same things I was already doing.

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Smelling chemicals and vaporizing those chemicals into the air and breathing them in are different things. Yes, just by smelling them you do get a small amount into your lungs, but not a therapeutic amount that would treat an RI. Can you imagine if you vaporized straight chlorine into the air and inhaled it? That would have a much different affect on your body than simply smelling it because the water you were swimming in was treated with chlorine.

Respiratory infections in snakes are variable and seeking the help of a veterinarian that can do a culture and prescribe the appropriate antibiotic is the recommended approach to treating them.

Well... All that being said, I offered advice, shared my experience, and was criticized for it, which is why I hesitate to offer help online. I hope you get it all figured out OP. Gonna stop following this thread now.

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Well... All that being said, I offered advice, shared my experience, and was criticized for it, which is why I hesitate to offer help online. I hope you get it all figured out OP. Gonna stop following this thread now.

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Please don't stop following the thread. Any j formation is good. We're al here to double check each other so we can formulate better responses to questions.


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We are all here to offer advice and share our experience. That doesn't mean that we have to agree on everything. :gj:

I've only had to deal with ri 3 times all three were successfully treated by fogging f10. That being said all 3 were also followed up by vet visits. If doing f10 for ri it has to be started very early, usually if the snake is bubbling at the mouth it's too far along for f10 and needs to be seen by a vet immediately. Secondly if your serious about your reptiles and emergency fund should be set up. even if you only drop 10 dollars a paycheck into a shoebox and don't touch it eventually it will build up for these unforseen events in this expensive hobby.