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  • 05-29-2017, 11:49 PM
    FeathersRuff
    Summer is almost here, temps are changing.
    It's been getting to be a lot warmer around and the temps in my BPs tank have changed dramatically over the last few days. I have one UTH under her hide, and a red lamp over the opposite side of the tank. Usually her UTH temp stays around the 86-89 range and the warm side around 80. But since the air has gotten a lot warmer, things changed.

    Lately I've had to turn her UTH almost all the way down where it sits around 76-77. Even if I turn it up just a smidge it sky rockets to 92-96. Her lamp temp I've gotten stable to the same as before, and the humidity seems to have gotten better sticking around the 75-77 range.

    I just would like to know if these new temps arent too cold for her. I'm a little miffed that even if I turn the UTH up a tiny bit it goes up by a lot so theres not much I can do about that.
  • 05-29-2017, 11:53 PM
    KMG
    75 is as low as I like to see in my room. I'm happy with anything from 76-83.

    Your uth is on a tstat, correct?
  • 05-30-2017, 12:14 AM
    FeathersRuff
    Re: Summer is almost here, temps are changing.
    Well not really. I have a thermometer probe between the UTH and the part of the tank its on. The UTH itself is plugged into a dimmer switch.
  • 05-30-2017, 12:31 AM
    KMG
    Re: Summer is almost here, temps are changing.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by FeathersRuff View Post
    Well not really. I have a thermometer probe between the UTH and the part of the tank its on. The UTH itself is plugged into a dimmer switch.

    That's what I figured. Dimmers are terribly hard to keep a steady temp when the room temp keeps changing.

    This is where the tstat shines. Instead of being a dumb device like a dimmer it knows when the room temp goes up or down and adjust accordingly. A dimmer is dumb, meaning it has no idea the temps changed, so it keeps the power steady which may be too much or little depending on what the room temp is doing.

    I'd save up for a tstat. You'll have a much easier time keeping things correct.
  • 05-30-2017, 12:39 AM
    6037201
    Yeah u need thermostat
  • 05-30-2017, 12:41 AM
    FeathersRuff
    Re: Summer is almost here, temps are changing.
    They are pretty expensive but I suppose your right. Would you recommend a specific one of maybe one like this?
  • 05-30-2017, 12:54 AM
    KMG
    Re: Summer is almost here, temps are changing.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by FeathersRuff View Post
    They are pretty expensive but I suppose your right. Would you recommend a specific one of maybe one like this?

    That is better than nothing but honestly IMHO, not by much. I had one when I was in a pinch and it failed within a couple months in the on position. Luckily I caught it just after it failed and it wasn't able to do any harm. That said many people do use them but I just could not trust it or recommend it after my experience.

    My first recommendation is always Herpstat. I have four and they have all given me years of great service.

    http://www.spyderrobotics.com/index....=index&cPath=1

    A tstat is the most important things you can buy for your snake.
  • 05-30-2017, 01:07 AM
    FeathersRuff
    Re: Summer is almost here, temps are changing.
    Jfc those prices. Ya I'm afraid I'd have to go with the link I posted or something similar. There has to be a decent tstat thats not over $200.
  • 05-30-2017, 01:12 AM
    Sunnieskys
    ohhhhhhhh....these just need to shut up and take my money lol. WANT ONE! I also have a dimmer for now.
  • 05-30-2017, 01:15 AM
    KMG
    The Herpstat 1 Basic is only $115 and would work fine for you. The Herpstat 1 had a few more features for $139. If you're really tight the Herpstat Intro is $99. They ship quickly.

    If you check around different herp sites with classified ads you can run across some gently used ones for a discounted price.
  • 05-30-2017, 01:20 AM
    FeathersRuff
    Re: Summer is almost here, temps are changing.
    I get that they would probably work very well, but I cant honesty justify that price that when tstats like the one I posted probably work just fine. I'm not a breeder or collector I'm just an average joe with a BP.
    Looking at some reviews these tstats seem to work just fine. But what I originally was asking is if the new UTH temps 77-79 aren't too low temporarily until I get a tstat.
  • 05-30-2017, 01:38 AM
    KMG
    Those temps are fine.

    If you would rather not use the uth you can use the lamp alone. You can provide both proper hotspot and ambient temps with a lamp. If you do this a uth is just a luxury and not necessary.

    You are also passing the info to try and find a used one. They are out there. I bought two of mine used for much less than retail. You could at least look around.

    If you think the Herpstat tstats are expensive you for sure don't want to visit a exotic animal vet for treatment of a burn. Google burned snakes and see what a run away uth can do.
  • 05-30-2017, 01:52 AM
    FeathersRuff
    Re: Summer is almost here, temps are changing.
    As long as they are fine then I'm okay with it for now. I'll look into getting a tstat even if it is one of the Amazon ones.

    And I'm pretty sure she's not gonna get burned. I always make sure the UTH never goes past 90.

    Also I was told the UTH is more important than the lamp. Since snakes (or BPS specifically) don't bask and belly heat is prefered choice. Honestly everytime I ask something to anyone I get a lot of conflicting answers.
  • 05-30-2017, 02:03 AM
    KMG
    Re: Summer is almost here, temps are changing.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by FeathersRuff View Post
    As long as they are fine then I'm okay with it for now. I'll look into getting a tstat even if it is one of the Amazon ones.

    And I'm pretty sure she's not gonna get burned. I always make sure the UTH never goes past 90.

    Also I was told the UTH is more important than the lamp. Since snakes (or BPS specifically) don't bask and belly heat is prefered choice. Honestly everytime I ask something to anyone I get a lot of conflicting answers.

    They don't bask, normally. Though they don't bask it is absolutely possible to have a red lamp over a hide to create a warm hide while keeping the air temp correct. I've done it many times. With a lamp and lamp stand or dimmer it is easy to dial in. I've even done it while the snake was in a tub.

    Many large breeders do not offer belly heat and have thriving collections. If belly heat was so important don't you think the breeders would all provide it? Fact is, a snake really just needs proper ambient temps and proper humidity. I consider belly heat a luxury item that I provide because I want to and not because they need it. Most of my snakes hardly ever use it and they are all doing great.
  • 05-30-2017, 02:17 AM
    FeathersRuff
    Re: Summer is almost here, temps are changing.
    So I suppose as long as her ambient temps and humidity stay at decent levels it'll be fine? I'll never let any temp drop below 70 or go above 90. That much I know.
    And I guess it does make sense that inside her hide its probably a warmer temp because of the small space.

    I just always was kinda confused about how people will tell me to buy this and that when you see breeders who just keep snakes in a plastic tub in stacks with no lamp or humidity control and they live just fine. Cause this isn't a hobby for me, this is just a pet that I care for and have around.
  • 05-30-2017, 02:37 AM
    KMG
    Re: Summer is almost here, temps are changing.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by FeathersRuff View Post
    So I suppose as long as her ambient temps and humidity stay at decent levels it'll be fine? I'll never let any temp drop below 70 or go above 90. That much I know.
    And I guess it does make sense that inside her hide its probably a warmer temp because of the small space.

    I just always was kinda confused about how people will tell me to buy this and that when you see breeders who just keep snakes in a plastic tub in stacks with no lamp or humidity control and they live just fine. Cause this isn't a hobby for me, this is just a pet that I care for and have around.

    A think a pet is a hobby. No matter the animal or the amount.

    Most breeders will have a humidity system for the room as well as heat.


    Another piece of kit that can be bought cheap on Amazon is a IR temp gun. This would allow you to easily check all the surface temps so you more accurately know what temps you are providing your snake. Many times you will see a probe thermometer are not very accurate when using them to monitor surface temps. Nothing fancy and under $20.
  • 05-30-2017, 08:43 AM
    Craiga 01453
    Re: Summer is almost here, temps are changing.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by FeathersRuff View Post
    They are pretty expensive but I suppose your right. Would you recommend a specific one of maybe one like this?

    cheaper than vet bills and much better than a dead snake or a house fire
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