Advice on cutting open a hide

My python is stuck in his hide - hes been in there for a couple days, I've been trying to wait it out to see if he can actually get out on his own but now I'm afraid that he really can't. It's the all living things bonsai tree decoration and it appears to be indestructible. Fortunately I can wiggle him around enough to one side where i could cut into it without cutting him and just slowly widening the hole but I have no experience with tools - should I use a saw? Has anyone else had to cut a hide? I think it's made of resin but I'm not sure. Would it be insane to take the whole thing to Home Depot and ask for help?

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Can't advise you on cutting open a hide with an animal in it, but I can say there is no way I would take it to HD and let someone else do it. They can barely cut wood correctly there.

A ball python spending days inside of a hide, especially when being checked on, disturbed, stressed out, etc is not uncommon. While you believe the snake is trapped in there, there is a good chance it isn't and can rearrange itself to get out.

How long have you had the snake? If it's been a couple months or more, leave it alone for a day and scent the room with a rodent for a few hours. If it isn't stuck it should come out to investigate.

True- I've just never used a saw before and am terrified of actually cutting him :(

I've had him for about a year, he's real docile and sweet. My retic outgrew the tree hide so I moved it to his tank last week - he's been in there for at least four days - I've been watching his tank like crazy and I'm 99% sure he hasn't moved. I have no idea what the inside of the tree looks like - and I can't see enough of him to see if he's squished and isn't getting circulation. When i touch him, he pushes back on my hand rather than moving away, I tried to wiggle him out but I don't want to hurt him. He's never been real interested in food, but I will try that before I go out for my contractor debut :(

With a saw you almost certainly will injure your snake. You'd probably be better off with a hammer and chisel. What you would be doing is finding a spot that is open space further up the side, placing the chisel there and striking it with a hammer to create a small crack (don't worry if you don't see a crack). Then continue to tap a line down to the hide opening, and back from the intital strike down to the hide opening.

You wouldn't want to be hitting the chisel hard enough to punch through, just hard enough to be tapping a crack into place. Your hand holds the chisel to provent it from traveling too far and going inside the hide.

Still, try scenting first, and even then give it a day before chiseling (hopefully it won't be in feeding mode when you free it if it is trapped)

Keep in mind that however you try freeing your snake, you could easily kill it or injure it. That's why I suggest scenting. Personally I'd dremel the snake out with one of the circular grinding/cutting wheels. Essentially etching a line around, then tap the line with a flathead screwdriver and hammer. However I am fairly good with a dremel, and wouldn't be worried about cutting through and into the snake.

Last night I watched my 1000g enchi pied decide to squeeze herself through a 1 1/2 inch gap. She just flattened out her body and off she went. I wouldn't worry about a ball python spending a lot of time in its hide, that's what they do.

Definitely no on the saw. I wouldn't try a hammer and chisel, either. I'd start with grabbing a bit (far away from the snake) with a good sturdy pair of pliers, preferably needle-nose, and see how hard it is to break off a small chunk. Then move on to carefully enlarging the opening. Take your time, go slowly, take out small chunks, less likely to hurt the snake or yourself that way. That's how we've freed a couple snakes that got stuck in hides/aquarium decor.

Needle-nosed pliers will concentrate the force more than broad-nosed pliers. Take small bites - like a half-inch deep. If you don't have needle-nosed, take smaller chunks, or work from the corner of the jaws. Odds are the hide isn't as indestructible as it seems when attacked that way.

If you get (or have) another hide like this, fill that void with Great Stuff.


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Thank you - that sounds like so much of a better idea than a saw. I hope the scenting works I'm gonna try that now. Thank you all for being so helpful

I've had this happen to me years ago when I put a hide that was meant for a fishtank in for my ball python cause I thought it looked cool. she wound up finding a little crevice to slither into. I too thought she was stuck and the more I played around with her trying to get her to come out the deeper she went in. she was in there for about a week and one day came home and she was in a different hide and I took the other one out. just leave him alone and most likely he'll come out on his own.

This type of hide is absolutely wrong for snakes. Don't get fish décor, get the hides that you can simply lift off of your snake. A few members have had to destroy the hide to get the snake out after it got stuck.

bcr229 is right - the few fish decor things we still use are artificial plants, or things they can't get stuck in - the undersides/interiors are more or less bowl-shaped.


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I would wait it out before trying to get him out with a saw or any other tools.

Just a thought here, not sure if it's a good one or not, but maybe if scenting doesn't entice him out try putting the hide somewhere safe but without any heat? Maybe he'll get cold and crawl out looking for warmth? Or maybe turn off the heat in the enclosure and wait it out?

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This type of hide is absolutely wrong for snakes. Don't get fish décor, get the hides that you can simply lift off of your snake. A few members have had to destroy the hide to get the snake out after it got stuck.

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You're right, I also have an All Living Things rock hide and although it looks cool, when I pick it up my BP usually goes with it... and it can be difficult to gently pry him out... neither of us need that stress.

Ok cut it out. Not hard to do with the right tools and a little caution. I would get a dremmel took and the round sanding rock and slowly a half moon around the opening that already there. I have used this tool many times. You can put it on your hand and it won't cut u but it sands through anything. Actually just used it on a hide that had a chunk out of it to smooth it down and use it on my dogs nails each week. I'll put a pic up of what I'm talking about.you can get a knock off brand dremmel like tool for 15 bucks or so and the stone for three or 4 bucks

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I'll bow to you DIY guys but the presumably the vibration will be horrendous using a dremmel ??

I kinda like the needle-nosed pliers suggestion where you concentrate the pressure and there is no vibration.

I still think it will come out itself given time ..