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  • 05-21-2017, 05:53 PM
    Chowser
    Please help!! Clear scales and discolored stomach scales
    Hello all
    I bought a female piedball about a month ago. She has been eating regularly. She won't get frozen so I had to get live and just recently starting her on pre killed. The last live one scratched her pretty good. I cleaned it and put neosporin on it for a few days until it healed up I have her cage at 60% humidity and hot spot at 92 the cold side is sitting at 84. There are a lot of scales falling off and her stomach is discolored I had bps a few years ago but had to get rid of them do to getting deployed. I never had this issue before and just worried what it is and if I need to take her to the vet. Any advice will be much appreciated.i have a pic but can't upload it.

    Thanks
    Chris
  • 05-21-2017, 06:00 PM
    paroxysm
    could the "scales falling off" be part of an old shed coming off?
  • 05-21-2017, 06:03 PM
    spellbound04
    Re: Please help!! Clear scales and discolored stomach scales
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Chowser View Post
    Hello all
    I bought a female piedball about a month ago. She has been eating regularly. She won't get frozen so I had to get live and just recently starting her on pre killed. The last live one scratched her pretty good. I cleaned it and put neosporin on it for a few days until it healed up I have her cage at 60% humidity and hot spot at 92 the cold side is sitting at 84. There are a lot of scales falling off and her stomach is discolored I had bps a few years ago but had to get rid of them do to getting deployed. I never had this issue before and just worried what it is and if I need to take her to the vet. Any advice will be much appreciated.i have a pic but can't upload it.

    Thanks
    Chris

    It would be very helpful if you could upload a photo, are you using the Tapatalk app? It makes it much easier to upload a photo especially from your phone. As for your bp, did u check to see if nesoporin is safe for snakes?
  • 05-21-2017, 06:08 PM
    PitOnTheProwl
    Photos would probably go a long way.
  • 05-21-2017, 06:34 PM
    Chowser
    Re: Please help!! Clear scales and discolored stomach scales
    Well its not the best pic had to do it one handed. And yes actually I read on this forum that it was safe as long as it didn't have the pain reliever in it. And the second pic is the clear scales that are falling off. I don't know when her last she'd was because she hasn't she'd since I have had her. The scales on her stomach look almost brown. I'm just worried it is some sort of scale rot https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...c4f0c4798f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...dc54e22122.jpg
  • 05-21-2017, 06:37 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    How often and how long did you use the neosporin for? The problem with Neosporin and many other ointment is that they are oil based and usually only recommended short term for a snake since oil based ointment will loosen up scales and make them fall.
  • 05-21-2017, 06:38 PM
    Chowser
    Re: Please help!! Clear scales and discolored stomach scales
    Here is a better shot https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...e4121d0a28.jpg

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  • 05-21-2017, 06:39 PM
    Chowser
    Re: Please help!! Clear scales and discolored stomach scales
    I used it for 3 days and not much at all. If that is the cause did I mess up big or will she be ok?

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  • 05-21-2017, 06:42 PM
    Chowser
    Re: Please help!! Clear scales and discolored stomach scales
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by spellbound04 View Post
    It would be very helpful if you could upload a photo, are you using the Tapatalk app? It makes it much easier to upload a photo especially from your phone. As for your bp, did u check to see if nesoporin is safe for snakes?

    Thanks it is a lot easier using this

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  • 05-21-2017, 06:45 PM
    spellbound04
    Re: Please help!! Clear scales and discolored stomach scales
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Chowser View Post
    Thanks it is a lot easier using this

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    No problem I was the same way, I couldn't figure out how to post photos for the life of me! Unfortunately I'm a relatively new bp owner so I dont have a ton of experience with things like this but I know snakes can lose scales and be perfectly fine. Just keep calm and dont freak out right away. There are some great, really knowledgeable people here who really know how to help!
  • 05-21-2017, 09:18 PM
    Chowser
    Re: Please help!! Clear scales and discolored stomach scales
    So does anyone know what this is?

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  • 05-21-2017, 09:26 PM
    paroxysm
    i honestly don't know, but here is a quote i found from a similar post

    Quote:

    Bear with me here. You said you can still see the outline of the scale ? If the scale was truly missing, the skin beneath should be white/cream, not dark.

    The photos are a little fuzzy and not really close up, it looks to me like his color changed, not that he lost scales. If you run your fingertip over the spot, is it soft and leathery or can you feel scales?

    If you can feel the scales, it is entirely possible that he just changed colors. It happens all the time with ball pythons. If you cannot feel the scales at all, just soft, faintly leathery skin, I would recommend a vet visit to rule out infection.

    NEVER home treat anything like this with a unproven method you read on the internet, that is a really good way to get into a lot of trouble.
  • 05-21-2017, 09:44 PM
    Chowser
    Re: Please help!! Clear scales and discolored stomach scales
    Hmmm ok guess I'll be taking a trip the vet it's hard to tell due to her being pied and all white. I do know they are not shiny like the rest and do feel and look leathery. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...1ba49c8325.jpg

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  • 05-22-2017, 05:50 AM
    PitOnTheProwl
    Out of curiosity where are you taking you ot spot temperature?
  • 05-22-2017, 07:46 AM
    Albert Clark
    Re: Please help!! Clear scales and discolored stomach scales
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl View Post
    Out of curiosity where are you taking you ot spot temperature?

    THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Also what type of substrate are you working with? Are you sure its not too damp on the floor of the enclosure? :confusd:
  • 05-22-2017, 08:01 AM
    Chowser
    Re: Please help!! Clear scales and discolored stomach scales
    It's on the hide under the heat emitter with a laser thermometer . I was also worried about that but it's pretty dry most of the day.

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  • 05-22-2017, 08:10 AM
    PitOnTheProwl
    So you are not using any belly heat at all?
  • 05-22-2017, 08:13 AM
    Chowser
    Re: Please help!! Clear scales and discolored stomach scales
    Nope none at all. With what I've read from the post paroxysm referenced I do think it was the neosporin. I will be taking her to the vet just to be 100% sure.

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  • 05-22-2017, 10:35 AM
    Chowser
    Re: Please help!! Clear scales and discolored stomach scales
    Sorry I'm using retibark

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  • 05-22-2017, 02:57 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Re: Please help!! Clear scales and discolored stomach scales
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Chowser View Post
    Sorry I'm using retibark

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    How wet do you keep your substrate and how often do you clean?

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  • 05-22-2017, 03:00 PM
    Chowser
    Re: Please help!! Clear scales and discolored stomach scales
    I have an auto Mister that mists twice a day and I spot clean and clean the whole tank every couple weeks

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