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White Snake Mates?

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  • 05-11-2017, 11:33 AM
    Ronniex2
    White Snake Mates?
    I have a beautifulal (dam near) all white Spider Potion BEL and am looking for either purchasing a mate for her or seeing if someone wanted to set up a date for copulation. I am new to the breeding portion but am looking forward to the possibilities that are available.

    Any input on genes that will get me a "gem" or have the best possible out comes for geting unique morphs would be helpful, thank you.

    V/R
    RL
  • 05-11-2017, 11:52 AM
    JodanOrNoDan
    If you want more "white" snakes almost anything in the BEL complex will work. If you want some color breeding to a super enchi will produce nice stuff.
  • 05-11-2017, 11:55 AM
    Oxylepy
    In the BEL complex I am a fan of the Bamboo. I'd recommend it.
  • 05-11-2017, 01:03 PM
    Hannahshissyfix
    Do you mean a spider mystic mojave? I'd be interested to see if that was ID'd correctly as it shouldn't be almost all white if thats what it is but maybe I just misunderstood. As mentioned pretty much any BEL morphs would go fine with that.
  • 05-11-2017, 01:40 PM
    Ronniex2
    Re: White Snake Mates?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by HannahLou View Post
    Do you mean a spider mystic mojave? I'd be interested to see if that was ID'd correctly as it shouldn't be almost all white if thats what it is but maybe I just misunderstood. As mentioned pretty much any BEL morphs would go fine with that.

    I got her from "dynisty reptiles", she has a somewhat "invisiible pattern" going on for her, idk if you saw the pics but yeah the breeder had her listed as a "Spider Potion BEL"..it may have been "mystic" but i am not sure about majave.

    this is all new to me and i was jus trying to get some idea of what could be the best mate for her. i do appricate the imput
  • 05-11-2017, 02:03 PM
    Lizardlicks
    Spider produces SUPER high white pieds, so I imagine there's probably just markings on the head. So yeah, nearly all white pied.
  • 05-11-2017, 03:23 PM
    Hannahshissyfix
    Re: White Snake Mates?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lizardlicks View Post
    Spider produces SUPER high white pieds, so I imagine there's probably just markings on the head. So yeah, nearly all white pied.

    But this isn't a pied, it's a BEL morph of some sort.

    OP you really need to know what genes are actually in your snake before you consider breeding it. A mystic potion BEL would be a purpley snake with some cream pattern and adding spider would just change the patterns lines, not make it almost white. I'm still curious to see pictures.
  • 05-11-2017, 03:28 PM
    redshepherd
    I'm curious for pictures too- would you mind posting some?
  • 05-11-2017, 03:55 PM
    redshepherd
  • 05-11-2017, 08:10 PM
    Bcycling
    Super Mojave
    Looks like a Mojave bel to me but hard to say. The eyes don't look blue
  • 05-11-2017, 09:00 PM
    Oxylepy
    Anyone want to look at the pattern and see if it looks like a spider? I'm bad with that morph
  • 05-11-2017, 09:51 PM
    Hannahshissyfix
    I'd guess it has one of the less common BEL morphs mixed in like mocha or russo. Those tend to add more pattern on mostly white in varying shades. Hard to tell by those pictures but either way no way should it be bred if you don't know what it is and definitely not a mojave mystic which would be the "potion". Still a pretty guy.
  • 05-13-2017, 01:30 PM
    Ronniex2
    Re: White Snake Mates?
    She was identified wrong by me, she is super Mojave pastel(if he remebers correctly) i called Dynisty and asked as you guys had me woundering. She was labeled as BEL and does have the Blueish/grey eyes with the red pupil. i am trying to add a better picture so you guys could enlighten me but there is never good lighting at my house.

    i will try to put it up when i get home off my laptop so hopfully u guys (and gals) can get a better idea for me :D
  • 05-13-2017, 01:33 PM
    Ronniex2
    Re: White Snake Mates?
    i agree it is deff not spider, but i may have been looking at the wrong pic b4 i purchased her. it was a spontanious buy and now i am committed lol.
  • 05-15-2017, 10:12 AM
    Ronniex2
    Re: White Snake Mates?
    I have added some new pics if you guys could check them out I would really appreciate it. I have added some new pics if you guys could check them out I would really appreciate it. I do believe after looking more into it she was misrepresented on the website I bought it from, or I just miss read the information. but either way

    I’m going to figure it out and land her a stud just wanted to make sure I am pursuing this right. She is a baby still and won’t be ready for at least another year but I want to handle the male beforehand and have them at the same time so when they are ready it will all be perfect lol.

    I know this is all wishful thinking as it is all a gamble at the end of the day, but long as the animal is properly taken care of (as I do currently and will do continuously) and all that I do believe this will be a fun journey.
  • 05-16-2017, 05:22 PM
    artist&writer
    http://i.imgur.com/Jm7L9HA.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/nYYvNDB.jpg

    Here is my Potion Spotnose for comparison. I also bought her from Dynasty. Chun Ku is really good about answering your questions as I have spoken to him over the phone and personally met him at last year's Daytona show.
  • 05-17-2017, 01:44 PM
    Hannahshissyfix
    Re: White Snake Mates?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ronniex2 View Post
    She was identified wrong by me, she is super Mojave pastel(if he remebers correctly) i called Dynisty and asked as you guys had me woundering. She was labeled as BEL and does have the Blueish/grey eyes with the red pupil. i am trying to add a better picture so you guys could enlighten me but there is never good lighting at my house.

    i will try to put it up when i get home off my laptop so hopfully u guys (and gals) can get a better idea for me :D

    I didn't check the new pictures but that's still not what it is. Super mojave would definitely not have that faint pattern on her sides. Unless you're planning try selling the babies as "possibly a ..." (which only strictly pet buyers if that would buy) I still stand by not breeding her without proper ID first. It's just not worth having such a hard time placing the babies and not ethical if your goal is to breed other morphs too. She's pretty but I'd keep her as a pet or sell as a pet if you can't get proper ID then buy a properly labeled female to start any breeding projects with. I'm really surprised with their reputation that they would tell you that morph after seeing her or also not have easy to look up clutch records.
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