Just got this little fellow wondering what kind he was.

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Looks normal to me but sooo gorgeous I love the patterns


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Definitely normal, but very neat pattern

He's a nice looking normal. Welcome to the forum.

When I got him they told me he was a butterball. I'm new to the snake world so wanted to ask you guys. Didn't plan on getting him but when I walked past his cage at the store he perked up and slithered to me. Lady said she never seen him do that before so I knew I had to get him. He's super chill loves to handled. He loves to lay in lap under my tail with his head poking out. Hasn't tried to strike or anything yet(knock on wood) since I've had him. Really active not to skidish. Like I said I'm new to the snake world so any tips would be nice. I'm going to store tomorrow to get some things for his cage any recommendations?

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Depends on what you have already. If you can make a quick list of what you have, we can suggest what else you might want to get.

That would be a normal ball python. There is no butter in there. I would contact the seller for false advertising.
Pet store pricing does have a mark up but in our world I would hope you didn't pay more than $40 or $50.

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Depends on what you have already. If you can make a quick list of what you have, we can suggest what else you might want to get.

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Have a 10 gallon tank, heating pad, heating lamp, bowl big enough for him to soak in, aspen bedding and a little hut thing.

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Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl

That would be a normal ball python. There is no butter in there. I would contact the seller for false advertising.
Pet store pricing does have a mark up but in our world I would hope you didn't pay more than $40 or $50.

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I'll get some more pics once i get home. He has some neat colors to him (im color blind so prolly my eyes playing tricks on me ) why I guess i fell for him. I paid 50 for the little guy so glad i didn't over pay.

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It's good to have a hide on the cool side and the hot side, and you'll want to make sure you regulate the heating pad with either a thermostat or a dimmer of some sort. A thermostat would be preferred though. You don't really need a lamp and heat pad. Do you have a thermometer and hygrometer to measure the temps on both sides and the humidity? In a glass tank with aspen you may have trouble keeping a good humidity, but there are tons of way you can set it up. A heat lamp especially will dry out the air.

I'm in Southern California so there is almost no humidity. I have a thermostat on the cool side which stays around 82. He doesn't seem to like the hide much. Havent seen him in it. He stays in the cool corner on the heating pad. What's a good way to regulate the humidity since im in a dry environment? The store where I got him from fed him frozen fuzzies should I keep him on the or something different?

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Thermometer not thermostat

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I glad you didn't get poked. LoL
Get your husbandry on point because this wont be your last ball. They are addictive ;)

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I glad you didn't get poked. LoL
Get your husbandry on point because this wont be your last ball. They are addictive ;)

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Thank you for that. Looks like I have some shopping to do today. The pad stays between 80-85. Well that's what the box said. I was thinking about putting some things for him to climb on any recommendations? From what i read they aren't climbers but he has a thing for going up and down my arm. Either he likes climbing or he's plotting lol.

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Keep him on frozen if you can, it's a lot easier for a lot of people. You'll eventually increase the prey size as he grows. Take a look at the care sheet https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...ius)-Caresheet and this thread has some good advice on setup https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...-With-Pictures!

And even if the box says it stays at a certain range, always keep your heat source on a thermostat. I've seen pictures of some seriously nasty burns.

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And even if the box says it stays at a certain range, always keep your heat source on a thermostat. I've seen pictures of some seriously nasty burns.

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Thank you for the links! It's an UTH and with the aspen bedding it doesn't get exseively hot. I check it everyday to make sure, but ill definitely get a thermostat for it. Reading that article I figured out why he doesnt go in his hide. Its a half log. There was a sticker on the outside of the tank when i first bought it that i noticed he like to get behind. Might tape off a section of the tank so he feels more secure. Thank you for your help!

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Thank you for the links! It's an UTH and with the aspen bedding it doesn't get exseively hot. I check it everyday to make sure,

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You check it with what?
Anything over 95 degrees is too hot.
A no contact temp gun is a great investment.
Should be taking temps under the substrate.

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You check it with what?
Anything over 95 degrees is too hot.
A no contact temp gun is a great investment.
Should be taking temps under the substrate.

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The back of my hand. I know it's not precise but like i said it stays warm but not hot. Just bought a red light to get rid of the white light. As well as a thermo-hygrometer and thermostat and timer plugs and some new hides for him. Was loking for some thing for him to climb on but might go to another store to get him some and some leaves too.

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If it feels warm to a warm blooded person then think about what it feels like to a cold blooded animal.......Using your method I can tell you its too hot.

Thought I'd note, 92 degrees (which is the proper hot spot temp) feels like nothing to the back of our hands. Thermostats to regulate ANY heating element is a 100% required piece of equipment for snakes, not an optional kinda thing.

For humidity, if you have a screen top, you can soak a bath towel, squeeze it down so it doesn't drip, and fold it over the empty half of the screen top. That shoukd up humidity by a lot. You can also spray the walls of the tank every few hours, if not.

Do you have a digital hygrometer or are you just guessing that it's dry?

you'll also want to buy a digital temp gun to measure any surface or ambient temps. It's very handy!

Snakes are only easy to keep if you get the setup and husbandry right. If it's off, there is a whole host of risks and stress to pay for.

Also, a heat pad I have says it doesn't get over 90-95. It actually gets to 110-120, when unregulated by a thermostat. I only know the temp because of my digital temp gun. :)

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Also, a heat pad I have says it doesn't get over 90-95. It actually gets to 110-120, when unregulated by a thermostat. I only know the temp because of my digital temp gun. :)

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Thought I got a thermostat with the combo i bought but it was just another thermometer with a cable. Which i put next to the heating pad as pitontheprawl suggested and it was around 87. The hydrometer read 37% humidity when I put it in so I sprayed the leaves in the cage and it's at 50.2% right now. Have to wait till next week to get a regulator for the heat pad to be on the safe side. I switched the white light for a red light and I noticed he likes that way better just in the couple of hours i switched it out. Put 2 new hides and some leaves and he exploring like crazy right now. Its his feeding day today should i wait till he gets used to the setup or just go for and see how he does?

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sphagnum moss can help with humidity. buy it from home depot/lowes or some such store. definitely not at a pet store. what home depot will charge you $3 for, petsmart will charge you $17.

Keeping humidity in a tank can be a real pain in the butt. I have a couple damp washcloths, a piece of plexiglass (which is a huge help with heat as well), and some towels if it's chilly in the house. On top of that, mist the tank and moss every day, a bowl of damp moss under the lamp (which seems to help it stay around 50% at least), and he has a humid hide with a tropical mix bedding that stays nice and damp in the middle of the tank.
Just a few ideas that I discovered through trial and error :)
You can get a thermostat for pretty cheap if you're on a budget, the herpstats are pretty up there. Mine is just an Inkbird Thermostat, around $30, and has been working just fine for me since last year. Just be sure to set the target temp a few degrees below 91, as it lets the temp get 2-3 degrees warmer than the target temp before it shuts off.
And exploring is great so long as he isn't constantly looking for a way out. I put my guy in his 40gal too early and he was ALL OVER the place until I planted it down, concealed the hides well, and even covered every side of the tank. At least make sure 3 sides are covered so he feels safe.

Feeding you may want to wait. If he's not settled in, chances are he won't want to eat and you run the risk of him not digesting properly if he's going to be squiggling all over the place.

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sphagnum moss can help with humidity. buy it from home depot/lowes or some such store. definitely not at a pet store. what home depot will charge you $3 for, petsmart will charge you $17.

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I will have to go and get some for sure. I was going some from the pet store and it was over $20 so I will check out a Hardware store today.

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Keeping humidity in a tank can be a real pain in the butt. I have a couple damp washcloths, a piece of plexiglass (which is a huge help with heat as well), and some towels if it's chilly in the house. On top of that, mist the tank and moss every day, a bowl of damp moss under the lamp (which seems to help it stay around 50% at least), and he has a humid hide with a tropical mix bedding that stays nice and damp in the middle of the tank.
Just a few ideas that I discovered through trial and error :)
You can get a thermostat for pretty cheap if you're on a budget, the herpstats are pretty up there. Mine is just an Inkbird Thermostat, around $30, and has been working just fine for me since last year. Just be sure to set the target temp a few degrees below 91, as it lets the temp get 2-3 degrees warmer than the target temp before it shuts off.
And exploring is great so long as he isn't constantly looking for a way out. I put my guy in his 40gal too early and he was ALL OVER the place until I planted it down, concealed the hides well, and even covered every side of the tank. At least make sure 3 sides are covered so he feels safe.

Feeding you may want to wait. If he's not settled in, chances are he won't want to eat and you run the risk of him not digesting properly if he's going to be squiggling all over the place.

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Slowly coming along. This is what I have set up right now. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...ca3bfade19.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...7c46f00c1a.jpg

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Certainly looking better

Got a few new things for his cage. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...271a73dd87.jpg

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