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  • 05-03-2017, 03:49 PM
    qwerty53
    500gram just ready to breed male. How many females you would give him?
    500gram just ready to breed male. How many females you would give him?
    Eats well and everything
  • 05-03-2017, 03:54 PM
    JodanOrNoDan
    Depends on your rotation. No limit to the number of females, just a limit to how often he goes in and that depends on the particular male and how healthy he is. I really try to give a male 4 days on and 3 consecutive days off. This can work out to two females a week depending on how soon he locks an stays locked.
  • 05-03-2017, 04:35 PM
    StillBP
    I put my males in with a females 4 on 3 off also but gets 1 day with a female then goes to the next so he gets 4 females a week depending on how well he breeds
    now i try to limit total number of females but there is no set number
    also he instantly gets 3 days off after a visiual lock no mater where he is in his breeding cycle so in i can do about 6 females a year per male, usually do 3-4 though as I do not want him over worked
  • 05-03-2017, 04:50 PM
    Kcl
    Re: 500gram just ready to breed male. How many females you would give him?
    Edit: I was wrong about information. I apologize. I am still concerned about your breeding plans as you still seem to be lacking a lot of basic knowledge (e.g. spurs).
  • 05-03-2017, 04:55 PM
    JodanOrNoDan
    Re: 500gram just ready to breed male. How many females you would give him?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kcl View Post
    I'm honestly deeply concerned about your breeding plans given that you purchased your first ball python only slightly over two weeks ago.

    He's buying expensive stuff too. Hope he keeps asking questions and following advice. Maybe he will pay us all off with a free scaleless. LOL. I chickened out of that project.
  • 05-03-2017, 04:55 PM
    Albert Clark
    Re: 500gram just ready to breed male. How many females you would give him?
    I would consider putting more weight on the male. How old is he?
  • 05-03-2017, 04:56 PM
    Kcl
    Re: 500gram just ready to breed male. How many females you would give him?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JodanOrNoDan View Post
    He's buying expensive stuff too. Hope he keeps asking questions and following advice. Maybe he will pay us all off with a free scaleless. LOL. I chickened out of that project.

    I was wrong about the two weeks ago - that was someone else. Still seems to be very very new.
  • 05-03-2017, 05:01 PM
    qwerty53
    Thanks for your answers and happy that you have a lot of free time.
    I'll try to avoid future questions.
  • 05-03-2017, 05:12 PM
    Kcl
    Re: 500gram just ready to breed male. How many females you would give him?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by qwerty53 View Post
    Thanks for your answers and happy that you have a lot of free time.
    I'll try to avoid future questions.

    As I said, I really am sorry I got your timeline wrong. I have no plans to further critique your breeding plans as it would clearly be unwelcome and ineffective. Please do continue to ask any questions you need - I promise I will avoid any further negative commentary on your posts.

    As to my free time, I actually don't have very much but either way that is my own business.
  • 05-03-2017, 09:13 PM
    Oxylepy
    Breed for 3 days and give 3 days off. Following this format exactly allows 5 females per month. To maximize your potential that the females become gravid I would suggest no more than 5 females.
  • 05-03-2017, 09:44 PM
    Oxylepy
    Follow up post as it cut me off from editing.

    Qwerty53, I've seen you come up on the boards in recent time, and as such I am pretty sure you're new to all this. That said, when you breed you are going to have serious issues selling the snakes off. Which is pretty common for most breeders. As such, I am going to add a few points.

    Going on averages each female producing 6 eggs, 5 snakes will leave you with 30 snakes to care for. This will require an entire rack worth of small tubs to care for them while you try and sell them. Some snakes are going to be problem feeders, others will fail to thrive. This pretty much happens to every breeder.

    Normals that you produce may be close to impossible to sell/give away. Keep that in mind when you are breeding, try to minimize the likelihood of any normals (5+ genes going into a clutch should be enough, but a super morph never hurts if you're going with 3-4 genes in the pairing).

    I suggest that, as you seem to be having your project escalate quickly, only breed 3 females (18 eggs) your first year and see how well you can sell those babies off.

    Keep in mind that when they do hatch, you're going to want to get each snake up to about 100g before you sell them. If your snake weighs 40g at birth, that's 60g to make up, with 10-15% every 5 days with, lets say 10% gain each 5 days (kinda high) it is going to take you 10 feedings, or almost 2 months. Now a lot of the babies won't be that small, but it will take time to get them ready to sell.

    Keep in mind that weight and feeding will likely be requested information about any snake you are selling, along with birth date and information on the parents.

    But, if you go small your first year (I suggest you only breed 1 female), you can test the waters better and make more of a name for yourself before you go all out.
  • 05-04-2017, 02:34 AM
    embrit345
    Re: 500gram just ready to breed male. How many females you would give him?
    For me personally, I would give him more time. I prefer 800g minimum for my males. It's all about overall health for me not overall egg production x


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  • 05-04-2017, 05:27 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Re: 500gram just ready to breed male. How many females you would give him?
    I don't even waste my time with males that small.

    They usually do their best at 650 grams and over.

    At 500 grams many will not breed for you and you have to be very cautious should you give it a try, breeding can take it's toll very quick and some people in a hurry have bred small males to death.

    Being able to read your animals, knowing when to pair is very important with smaller males.

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  • 05-04-2017, 05:51 PM
    JodanOrNoDan
    I agree with Deborah about knowing your males, but I would not say it is a waste of time to breed the younger males. I have had males not lock until their third season and some lock in their first. When I "test" a younger male, he always goes with a girl that really, really likes to mate first. If he does not lock with her, I will wait another season before trying him again. This year I had a male that was born last season and was bred back to his mother and three other girls this season. He was only a couple months old when he locked with his mother. His mother and two of the others are going to lay. The girl that is not going is because of her, not him. Why risk it? It is a line breeding issue and I need to lock the genes in a super.
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