Look out PA residents!!

Wow so it looks like since the Lacey Act was more or less crushed, now individual states are posting their own rules it looks like.
http://usark.org/campaign/action-ale...and-pet-limit/

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Wow so it looks like since the Lacey Act was more or less crushed, now individual states are posting their own rules it looks like.
http://usark.org/campaign/action-ale...and-pet-limit/

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Wow, I'm starting to think there is a lack of O2 north of the Mason-Dixon Line.

"a ban on the possession of more than four (4) animals in any combination of species, except fish, in any household" Wow lame! Where do we check for new laws in our own states regarding this stuff?

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"a ban on the possession of more than four (4) animals in any combination of species, except fish, in any household" Wow lame! Where do we check for new laws in our own states regarding this stuff?

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Fish and Game regulations and your city/county regulations under animal care and control under exotic animals section if that is what you are looking for.

http://usark.org/campaign/action-ale...and-pet-limit/

Gosh, those "restrictive" snakes !!! ...:rolleyes:

LOL they don't even know what they're legislating against.

I am saddened to say I live in PA. But on the bright side none of my snake are "restrictors".
Searously tho I will be there opposing this

Looks like it's westboro or some such area. Not likely to hit allegheny. I'll be threatening their jobs shortly

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Looks like it's westboro or some such area. Not likely to hit allegheny. I'll be threatening their jobs shortly

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as will I. Seems ​your not too far from me.

Bear in mind this is Waynesboro only, not the whole state of PA.

And it stinks IMO.

This proposal is already being noticed by a large number of pet owners across the nation. At the present time opposing the proposed section 62 titled "Keeping of animals" is the only way to avoid nation wide negative public relations.

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This proposal is already being noticed by a large number of pet owners across the nation. At the present time opposing the proposed section 62 titled "Keeping of animals" is the only way to avoid nation wide negative public relations.

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My post from the other topic

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Wow so it looks like since the Lacey Act was more or less crushed, now individual states are posting their own rules it looks like.
http://usark.org/campaign/action-ale...and-pet-limit/

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PA has always been weird with exotics. MOST places never care about snakes of any variety, but if you get caught with a sugar glider you are going to prison lol. It just blows my mind that no research is put into these legislations. What python is going to survive a PA winter? Hell a PA spring...blows my mind man.

I personally wouldn't have suggested correcting their terminology. Go ahead and ban 30 round "clips", unicorns, and leprechauns while you're at it. I'll be over here changing my blinker fluid.

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I personally wouldn't have suggested correcting their terminology. Go ahead and ban 30 round "clips", unicorns, and leprechauns while you're at it. I'll be over here changing my blinker fluid.

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100% off topic but every single time I see your name I think it says snacksandfarts.

While you could make one hell of an argument in court with their wording, ultimately the court is going to decide against you regardless.

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I would think a good lawyer could argue this easily. If you're on the witness stand you better be very precise with what you say because if you say something poorly, they're going to use it against you and they're not gonna take "Well da-gum, you know what I meant" for an answer.
Why is it ok if the state says it?

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Two of my other favorite things, and often related...


I would think a good lawyer could argue this easily. If you're on the witness stand you better be very precise with what you say because if you say something poorly, they're going to use it against you and they're not gonna take "Well da-gum, you know what I meant" for an answer.
Why is it ok if the state says it?

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No such thing as a good lawyer.

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I would think a good lawyer could argue this easily. If you're on the witness stand you better be very precise with what you say because if you say something poorly, they're going to use it against you and they're not gonna take "Well da-gum, you know what I meant" for an answer.
Why is it ok if the state says it?

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If the word "exotics" is used in reference to the animals it won't matter if they screw up constrictor/restricting. They will say we mean all exotic snakes etc etc etc.

I don't know the semantics of it all really but I can tell you I watched a state policeman do something very similar in a DUI case against a friend of mine. He didn't remember half of what happened, more or less made up stuff to fill in the blanks and said a lot of "ums, and maybes" right to the judge lol, friend still caught the charge even though he couldn't recount the scene from less than a week before, and I was on scene as well as in the court room sitting there saying in my head "nope, not what happened, nope that wasn't there" etc haha.

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If the word "exotics" is used in reference to the animals it won't matter if they screw up constrictor/restricting. They will say we mean all exotic snakes etc etc etc.

I don't know the semantics of it all really but I can tell you I watched a state policeman do something very similar in a DUI case against a friend of mine. He didn't remember half of what happened, more or less made up stuff to fill in the blanks and said a lot of "ums, and maybes" right to the judge lol, friend still caught the charge even though he couldn't recount the scene from less than a week before, and I was on scene as well as in the court room sitting there saying in my head "nope, not what happened, nope that wasn't there" etc haha.

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Oh yeah they'd definitely get you there, I was just arguing the one point lol

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No such thing as a good lawyer.

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True, but some of them do their job very well :'D

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True, but some of them do their job very well :'D

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haha believe me I'd love to put the guy who worded the legislation on the stand. "what is a restricting snake? can you point one out of these pictures? What do they restrict you from doing?"

"That snake has handcuffs, git 'im"

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If the word "exotics" is used in reference to the animals it won't matter if they screw up constrictor/restricting. They will say we mean all exotic snakes etc etc etc.

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Exceeeept many common constrictors are actually native species (kings, corns, several boa species) so even that is factually incorrect. The law as written is over broad and unenforceable. You wouldn't even need a good lawyer to point that out.

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Exceeeept many common constrictors are actually native species (kings, corns, several boa species) so even that is factually incorrect. The law as written is over broad and unenforceable. You wouldn't even need a good lawyer to point that out.

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if its like any other of PA's exotic animal laws it will have the damning wording in the legislation somewhere of "non-native" "exotics". You aren't allowed to own more than one native snake in PA as is UNLESS its wild caught and you possess a valid fishing license lol, unless they have since changed that law at some point. And last time I looked around I couldn't find any boas here haha.

Yea, what is a Restricting Snake? I would like to have one of these new types of snakes. Then again, a tomato is scientifically a fruit unless you were the Supreme Court of 1893. Goes to prove that a piece of paper does not mean "Educated".

Oh God not restrictors??? Who one earth would want a restrictor??,