How To Switch Stubborn Baby Sumatran From Live Mice To Frozen/Thawed

As some of you may know, I became the proud new owner of a pair of 2016 Sumatrans a little over one month ago. The male has not ever missed a meal since day one (frozen/thawed hoppers). Unfortunately, the female has been refusing frozen/thawed every 7 days. Last Monday, on feeding day, I finally gave in and tossed a live mouse in her tub and it was gone when I checked in on her later and I expect the same again today when I feed. At this point, i'm just happy she is eating, but I want to get her off of mice completely and on frozen/thawed hoppers ASAP. For some reason, my Boa is the only one of my snakes, who will eat if you are dangling/wiggling a frozen/thawed rodent in front of him. All the rest of my snakes (Balls, Bloods, Sumatrans) will only eat if the rodent is left in their enclosures. With this girl, I have tried dangling and wiggling frozen/thawed rodents and leaving them lay in her tub and i've even tried pi$$ing her off a bit with them and she simply refuses...

Do you guys have any suggestions on how to get this stubborn little girl switched over?

My little blood was incredibly picky and took forever to switch. First to switch to f/t and then to switch over from mice to rats.

The trick for mine to finally start taking f/t steadily was to make sure the prey was super heated, not just nice and warm from being thawed like my other snakes are happy with, but really, really warm. To this day, he'll usually only take if it's very warm even though he's now steadily accepting f/t rat pups. The switch from f/t mice to rats was mostly just persistence and making sure the rat pup was no bigger than the hopper mice he was taking before. The larger prey seemed to intimidate him at first. I dangle near the hide (he's in his hide 90% of the time) or move it around on the ground in front or near the front of the hide.

edit to add - mine won't take if left in the cage or if I start 'teasing' him with it. If he's going to take it, it's only upon the first or so introduction of the prey into the enclosure.

I wish you luck!

Thanks, April. I usually just leave my frozen rodents sit out in the snake room for a couple/few hours. So, they only thaw to room temperature. I think i'll start heating one up with my heat gun for the stubborn girl. I definitely wouldn't be able to re-freeze it if she refuses it that way, but there is no doubt that my Boa will snatch the tasty little dessert right up at least... lol

I agree, absolutely warm it up!

I feed nothing but FT and so far every time I have gotten a baby that was on live, I got it switched immediately without any problems. But the way I thaw out the rodents leaves them quite warm..

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Originally Posted by Aedryan Methyus

As some of you may know, I became the proud new owner of a pair of 2016 Sumatrans a little over one month ago. The male has not ever missed a meal since day one (frozen/thawed hoppers). Unfortunately, the female has been refusing frozen/thawed every 7 days. Last Monday, on feeding day, I finally gave in and tossed a live mouse in her tub and it was gone when I checked in on her later and I expect the same again today when I feed. At this point, i'm just happy she is eating, but I want to get her off of mice completely and on frozen/thawed hoppers ASAP. For some reason, my Boa is the only one of my snakes, who will eat if you are dangling/wiggling a frozen/thawed rodent in front of him. All the rest of my snakes (Balls, Bloods, Sumatrans) will only eat if the rodent is left in their enclosures. With this girl, I have tried dangling and wiggling frozen/thawed rodents and leaving them lay in her tub and i've even tried pi$$ing her off a bit with them and she simply refuses...

Do you guys have any suggestions on how to get this stubborn little girl switched over?

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Apologies for this copy and paste but it was me who wrote it in the first place :)

This method WORKS if done properly ...
I wait until evening as they're nocturnal of course . I let the rodent thaw out in the reptile room so they get the smell ..
Then I warm up the mouse / rat with a hairdryer and offer with tongs IMMEDIATELY whilst still warm . If refused simply repeat the heating and offering as many times as needed. .
A couple of mine will only strike feed from within their hides so I dangle the warm rodent in front of the hide's entrance - usually works but if it fails simply reheat the rodent with a hairdryer and immediately offer again whilst it's still warm , continue until it's grabbed ...
I always wait until evenings to feed as they're nocturnal of course .

Incidentally , if it shows no interest at all not even a tongue flicker maybe it's best to leave for a week or so.

I've always used hot water to heat up my frozen rodents, just fill a bowl and let them soak in it to warm up. If the hairdryer method doesn't appeal to your snake, you might give that version a try too.

But yeah, they sense the body temp of their prey so it doesn't surprise me that they might not be interested in a room temperature meal.

Thanks you guys. Zincubus, I'm going to try heating up f/t with a heat gun. The only problem I foresee is, this snake refuses to eat even live mice from tongs. I always have to leave it in her tub. So, depending on how long it takes her to get around to eating a heated up f/t rodent it probably won't stay warm for too long. I'll just have to try it and see...

The reason I prefer to heat up in hot water is that the heat seems to penetrate throughout the rodent. Once the "outside" of the rodent cools, the core stays warmer, longer. Just like it would be in nature when an animal just dies.

I've never had good luck with the hair dryer and such methods. They heat the rodent really well, and fast, but only the outside of the rodent is hot, and it cools very fast again. To get the heat through and through you would have to blowdry for a long time, making sure you don't cook the rodent.
I'm sure that works for a some people, though, it just didn't for me, I prefer the hot water method.

Some people like one method over the other, for different reasons. Which is why its so great that there are different ways to go about this. What your snake prefers, you'll have to figure out ;)

Try to get a rodent nice and warm. Don't offer it until late that night and just leave it with the head sticking into the hide and then leave the room, have it dark. No more disturbances.
See if that will do the trick ;)

I just wanted to give a little update on this picky little girl and see if you guys have any other suggestions. For the past two feedings I have offered her well heated frozen/thawed hoppers late at night and she still refuses to eat them, whether I dangle them in front of her or leave them in her enclosure overnight. So, reluctantly, I keep giving in and giving her live mice the next day... I will say that she definitely acted a lot more interested in the well heated f/t than she ever has one at room temperature. She actually looked like she was going to take it while I was dangling it in front of her. She sat straight up out of her tub flickering her tongue at it and smelling it.

Do you guys think I would be better off withholding live mice altogether until she gives in and eats f/t? Do you think she could be learning that all she has to do is refuse the f/t and she'll get a nice, succulent live mouse? If that is the case, she is even a lot more stubborn than me, because when I first got her she refused f/t for a month straight without getting a live mouse... lol

My biggest concern with withholding live mice altogether is, would not eating for long periods affect her development negatively or stunt her growth?

If she refuses and then you go right ahead with live, she has no need to switch, she'll keep getting live.
Sometimes you have to wait them out.
I went weeks of mine refusing before he'd take at times (multiple times).
Stunting isn't going to happen over a few months time, I wouldn't worry about it.
If she starts losing weight then you may have to give in and give her a live but really for mine, it was a 'who is more persistent' waiting game and I finally won.
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Thanks, April. She has always been a little larger than my male (her clutch mate) and even though the male is a whole month of weekly feedings + one shed up on her she is still a little larger than him and looks great. I really need to start weighing and documenting all of my snakes weights on a regular basis. That's one thing I haven't been doing the way I should...

But, yeah... That's kinda what I was thinking, April. Right now, I think she is just playing me like a violin! lol

I still haven't had any luck getting this girl to eat frozen/thawed. I have been heating them up and trying to feed late at night and she still doesn't want anything to do with it whether I wiggle it around in front of her, try to pi$$ her off with it or leave it over night. I have refrained from giving in and giving her live, so she hasn't eaten for about a whole month. Her weight dropped from 270 grams down to about 240 grams. At what point should I give in and give her live? Now, her brother/boyfriend stopped eating a couple of weeks ago, too... All temperatures, humidity and airflow couldn't be any better...

I had stubborn BP snakes at work that refused FT. I had to thaw them in hot water (not boiling) then take used mice bedding, throw the FT mouse into that and shake and bake. Puts that fresh mouse smell on it. Worked and they finally started eating. I didnt have to shake and bake after that. I also put used bedding on the top of their feeding cage at work to get the hunting in motion. oh the things we do...

Thanks, Sunnie. I have heard of that before. Unfortunately, that wouldn't really be an option for me, because I don't keep live rats on hand. I just buy them one at a time from a local pet store on an as needed basis. The amount of frozen rats that have been getting wasted lately is starting to be a problem. I don't know what has been going on, but 4 out of my 9 snakes have been refusing food for about the past month. I will only re-freeze f/t rats once each, so a lot of rats have been getting thrown out... :(

ask the pet store for used bedding. I know if someone asked me for some for their snake i would give in a heartbeat. Doesnt hurt to ask.

I wish I had advice but my picky borneo male still wants live mice-I got him to take a f/t one last week and not sure if that was a win or not. I've got 1-2 months offering nothing but f/t rats and he never takes them so eventually I give in, give him a mouse or two and go back to trying. It's super frustrating because mice are too small but he will not take rats, he's taken maybe 3-4 in a year and the best success has been offering a mouse and following with a rat. I've offered chicks, rabbit pinks, small quail-I'm not even stuck on feeding him rats if he'd just eat something bigger but the live is really the key for mine. Maybe I need to rig up a better system of offering instead of tongs, rat on a string/stick to move around?

Honestly, sometimes she acts like she doesn't know what she is supposed to do with it and sometimes she acts like she is scared of it. I know I want her to grow and I definitely don't want her to keep losing weight, though. So, I am considering just giving the f/t a break and giving her a live mouse once a week until she gets big enough for larger prey. She is at that weird stage where hoppers and mice aren't really big enough and small rats are too big. Either way, I think her health and growth is what is most important, though. So, do you guys think I should get a few more feedings in her with live mice before trying f/t again? Or, should I keep holding out? Like I said, her weight has already dropped from 270 grams down to around 240 grams...

When I was getting my baby to switch, I was doing all sorts of little dances with it in order to get him to take it - putting it on the floor outside his hide, grabbing the nape of the neck with tongs and making it 'sit up' and move that way, also putting it on the side of the water bowl and dancing it around there. Not annoying him with it at all, he'd never take it when I did that, just away so he'd have to come out a bit to hunt it down. It was so frustrating. now he'll usually just take it off tongs dangled by the tail but boy it was a lot of work and frustration. The mice (hoppers and small adults) he would take were way too small, he could have had a weaned rat. He still won't take weaned rats, just looks at them funny but takes the pup size fine.

I never re-freeze f/t but I have plenty of back ups to take anything refused (corns and a king snake).

I can't say how much weight loss is too much, usually after 4-8 weeks, I'd give in and give a live then start all over again. It took a long time and a lot of patience. Mine also won't eat while in shed (he's albino so it's kind of hard to tell). I still wishing you the best of luck, hopefully your baby will come around Aedryan!

Mine won't even leave the hide to investigate, but a mouse hits the entrance and it's gone. Remove the hide or tease him just makes him defensive, he acts more interested when it's in the air vs ground but no amount of dancing has gotten him to grab a dead rat. I went and looked, this year so far he's taken 5 live mice, 1 f/t mouse and 3 f/t rats. Not terrible I guess. I gave in for a couple months when he was small and fed mice weekly and when he grew and looked scrawny, get him at a healthy looking weight and feeding regularly, see if that helped any, it didn't but I do want him to keep growing obviously so you do what you have to do although I really wanted to be done breeding mice, no pet stores local to me.

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Originally Posted by Aedryan Methyus

I just wanted to give a little update on this picky little girl and see if you guys have any other suggestions. For the past two feedings I have offered her well heated frozen/thawed hoppers late at night and she still refuses to eat them, whether I dangle them in front of her or leave them in her enclosure overnight. So, reluctantly, I keep giving in and giving her live mice the next day... I will say that she definitely acted a lot more interested in the well heated f/t than she ever has one at room temperature. She actually looked like she was going to take it while I was dangling it in front of her. She sat straight up out of her tub flickering her tongue at it and smelling it.
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Sadly it sounds like you , like so many others , gave up too soon .

You had her ripe for the picking ... Flicking the tongue , smelling it , moving towards was so promising .... In my experience feeding 22 every week if you'd have warmed up the mouse/ rat again and offered IMMEDIATELY she may have taken it , even if it took another 5 or 6 goes it's worth it . Once you've managed once or twice , you get confident and then you expect it to work ...

Feed at evening , in low light .... even offer in front of her hide and she may strike from within the hide .

Just takes patience and follow the guidelines I mentioned in my previous post ..

Good luck !



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Originally Posted by Zincubus

Sadly it sounds like you , like so many others , gave up too soon .

You had her ripe for the picking ... Flicking the tongue , smelling it , moving towards was so promising .... In my experience feeding 22 every week if you'd have warmed up the mouse/ rat again and offered IMMEDIATELY she may have taken it , even if it took another 5 or 6 goes it's worth it . Once you've managed once or twice , you get confident and then you expect it to work ...

Feed at evening , in low light .... even offer in front of her hide and she may strike from within the hide .

Just takes patience and follow the guidelines I mentioned in my previous post ..

Good luck !



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Hi Zincubus,
This girl i'm talking about does the same thing. She seems fairly interested in it while i'm dangling it in front of her (keeping it still). She will sit straight up flickering her tongue at it, but then it's like she loses interest and moves away. Then if I start making it crawl around on her and following her around with it she doesn't want anything to do with it. I still haven't given in and gave her a live mouse yet this time.

Are you saying we should keep warming the mouse up during the same feeding attempt?

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Hi Zincubus,
This girl i'm talking about does the same thing. She seems fairly interested in it while i'm dangling it in front of her (keeping it still). She will sit straight up flickering her tongue at it, but then it's like she loses interest and moves away. Then if I start making it crawl around on her and following her around with it she doesn't want anything to do with it. I still haven't given in and gave her a live mouse yet this time.

Are you saying we should keep warming the mouse up during the same feeding attempt?

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Yep . I just persist , if there is ANY interest at all .

Feed evening , low lighting , heat mouse / rat up especially the head area - then offer immediately - just repeat the above until it hopefully takes it .
Most of mine strike from their hides so I just dangle the food outside the entrance .
I have tried that thing you mentioned about trying to annoy the snake with the mouse / rat but it's never worked for me .

Here's my pair of Albino Royals eating at the same time , fed seconds apart . Just so you can see I'm not making it up :)

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Alrighty then... I guess it's time to turn my stubbornness and persistence up to 100 and keep holding out... lol

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Alrighty then... I guess it's time to turn my stubbornness and persistence up to 100 and keep holding out... lol

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Well good luck !!

Just one proviso ... if 'initially' the snake shows absolutely ZERO interest and even moves away quickly then it's best to just leave it a week or so but if there is any interest like tongue flicking or even nudging it then I just persist .... for SOME the mouse / rat HAS to be warm though so heating then waiting or faffing around won't work . Heat for 15 or so seconds with a hairdryer then offer with tongs IMMEDIATELY ... ...and repeat :)


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Most of the time this girl does come right up to it and flickers her tongue right on it, so maybe there is hope... I will try it again next Monday on feeding day. Keep your fingers crossed!

My small boy came to me on Wednesday. Thursday evening I offered him a f/t 50 gramm rat. After one second he striked and a few minutes later the rat was gone. ��

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That's awesome that you were able to get him to eat for you so soon! Congrats!

I FINALLY got this little girl to eat a frozen/thawed! Yaaaay! :) Zincubus, your idea worked! I just kept heating the rat pup up (under hot water, though). She was interested in it the whole time and made two different attempts to slowly and gently get her mouth around it while I was dangling it in front of her by the tail, but she wasn't able to. So, then I would just keep dragging it around all over back and forth in front of her and ultimately just let go of it and let it lay right in front of her. She finally took it ever so slowly and gently and pulled it back under a piece of newspaper. It probably took a half hour or so of messing around, but she did it! :) At some point will she start nailing it properly instead of taking it so softly?

I was also able to get her brother/boyfriend to take a f/t from me while dangling it for the first time as well! Normally, I just have to leave it in there with him, but he hasn't even been eating them that way for about a month. Great week of feeding, though! I got 7 out of 9 to eat. No clue why by adult Ball Pythons are still on a hunger strike, though. They're both hanging around the front of their tubs looking out like they're hungry, but they're still refusing to eat...

Thanks for all of your help with this picky little girl! Such a huge relief!

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I FINALLY got this little girl to eat a frozen/thawed! Yaaaay! :) Zincubus, your idea worked! I just kept heating the rat pup up (under hot water, though). She was interested in it the whole time and made two different attempts to slowly and gently get her mouth around it while I was dangling it in front of her by the tail, but she wasn't able to. So, then I would just keep dragging it around all over back and forth in front of her and ultimately just let go of it and let it lay right in front of her. She finally took it ever so slowly and gently and pulled it back under a piece of newspaper. It probably took a half hour or so of messing around, but she did it! :) At some point will she start nailing it properly instead of taking it so softly?

I was also able to get her brother/boyfriend to take a f/t from me while dangling it for the first time as well! Normally, I just have to leave it in there with him, but he hasn't even been eating them that way for about a month. Great week of feeding, though! I got 7 out of 9 to eat. No clue why by adult Ball Pythons are still on a hunger strike, though. They're both hanging around the front of their tubs looking out like they're hungry, but they're still refusing to eat...

Thanks for all of your help with this picky little girl! Such a huge relief!

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That's such great news !!

I get loads of PMs thanking me for feeding tips but it's nice to get a mention in a thread :)

I let mine thaw naturally and then blast them with a hairdrier before offering IMMEDIATELY . This method worked so much better than warming with water - I presume the soak washes away the rodent aroma which is vital apparently .

Just be persistent and he/she will get better and better at taking it plus you get more confident and start expecting them to feed :)


As regards the Royals , reading around the forum there are loads of Royals not feeding as they're in breeding mode ...

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As regards the Royals , reading around the forum there are loads of Royals not feeding as they're in breeding mode ...

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I've been wondering if that wasn't the case, too! I keep seeing the female wrapping around her water dish. I know they will do that after they have become gravid, right? But, is there some reason they will do that before they've bred? Maybe while follicles are developing or something? I have been so tempted to go ahead and throw the boy in with her...

Success! Hopefully they keep it up. My picky boy got a live mouse but took a f/t rat after it this week, I did get up really late one night and saw him poking his head out so maybe I need to suck it up and try offering food later, I usually feed afternoons/evenings and it's not dark.

glad to hear it worked! I heat mine in warm water as well.

I am 100% convinced that this girl would have eaten f/t every time in the past month if I would have kept heating up the rat and not given up so quickly and not just left it in there every time. That definitely seems to be the key! Now, I just hope I can get her to start actually striking the prey properly instead of taking it so slowly and softly. She's such a sweet girl that maybe she's just afraid she will hurt it, huh? lol

Just an update on this stubborn little girl... As it turns out, I was only able to get her to eat frozen/thawed for two feedings in a row. She has since been refusing them for about another month now and so has her brother/boyfriend. Spending a half hour puppeteering for each of these guys every feeding day, only to have them not eat and end up having to waste rats week after week is becoming a huge burden. I am considering just giving in and feeding both of these animals live for awhile. At least until they get some more size on them... What do you guys think?

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Just an update on this stubborn little girl... As it turns out, I was only able to get her to eat frozen/thawed for two feedings in a row. She has since been refusing them for about another month now and so has her brother/boyfriend. Spending a half hour puppeteering for each of these guys every feeding day, only to have them not eat and end up having to waste rats week after week is becoming a huge burden. I am considering just giving in and feeding both of these animals live for awhile. At least until they get some more size on them... What do you guys think?

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Have you tried the hairdryer trick , where you get the rat in the tongs and then give the top half rat a good hot blast with a hairdryer then IMMEDIATELY dangle it in front of the snake , if it's refused - repeat process exactly until it's grabbed ... It will work if there is some interest shown but if there is no interest , not even a tongue flicker you're best waiting a week or so ..

That's what I have been doing only i've been running them under hot water over and over. Most of the time they will show interest by flickering their tongues and smelling them. Other times they act like they don't want anything to do with them. Whether they end up taking it or not, I always end up going through this for up to a half hour with each of these snakes on every feeding day. Neither of these snakes will ever actually strike at the prey, either. They just take them slowly and gently...

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That's what I have been doing only i've been running them under hot water over and over. Most of the time they will show interest by flickering their tongues and smelling them. Other times they act like they don't want anything to do with them. Whether they end up taking it or not, I always end up going through this for up to a half hour with each of these snakes on every feeding day. Neither of these snakes will ever actually strike at the prey, either. They just take them slowly and gently...

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To be honest I stopped using warm water for thawing as it also washes away the rodent's smell / odour .
As I understand it , many ( all ?) snakes use their tongues to smell/taste their prey so that's why I changed ( very successfully ) to heating with a hairdryer after thawing on either a heat mat or radiator or boiler or whatever kind of heat source ( be care not to cook the rat though - just warm enough to thaw ) .

Many of my balls will absolutely refuse a wet rat. If I turn around and feed them a dry one.. bam

With a picky pair like this I don't prepare two feeders, I only prepare one. If the first snake doesn't eat then the feeder is rewarmed and offered to the second one. If the first snake eats then I prepare a second one for the other snake, and it's not like thawing and warming a rat pup takes a very long time.

Also I would put these guys in a 10-14 day feeding schedule. Snakes in captivity are often overfed and most really don't need to eat every week, though many will simply because they're opportunistic and instinctively they know that it may be quite a while before the next meal comes along. In the wild they would not eat as often and they would expend energy hunting.

You shouldn't have to spend 30 min trying it, if they don't take it pretty fast, then they aren't going to take it at all (in my experience).

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glad to hear it worked! I heat mine in warm water as well.

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to clarify, I don't put them directly in warm water, they are in a zip lock.

Okay... You guys talked me out of giving in again... lol I will try using a hairdryer for a week or two instead of wet rats and see if that makes a difference. Either way, I have to get these guys eating regularly. i've had them since March and neither of them have ever gotten on a consistant feeding schedule and they aren't growing good...

Thanks as always for sharing all of your vast insight and experience. You guys are awesome! :)

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With a picky pair like this I don't prepare two feeders, I only prepare one. If the first snake doesn't eat then the feeder is rewarmed and offered to the second one. If the first snake eats then I prepare a second one for the other snake, and it's not like thawing and warming a rat pup takes a very long time.

Also I would put these guys in a 10-14 day feeding schedule. Snakes in captivity are often overfed and most really don't need to eat every week, though many will simply because they're opportunistic and instinctively they know that it may be quite a while before the next meal comes along. In the wild they would not eat as often and they would expend energy hunting.

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Perfect !!

That's an important point I often overlook. .. Two of my Royals eat every time as long as there's a 10 day gap ..

I thought you guys might find it interesting to hear that I used a heat gun to heat up the rats for all of my snakes yesterday instead of running them directly under hot water and both of these little stinkers IMMEDIATELY snatched them right up with authority as soon as I pulled their tubs out! :) There was definitely something different about feeding day yesterday all around, too. ALL of my snakes (except my one Lesser girl that has been on a hunger strike for almost 2 months) were acting ravenous at feeding time! My one Boa boy is always a great eater, but I couldn't even hardly get his tub pulled out. He was basically trying to charge out of the tub like a Retic or Woma! lol I can't help, but think the heat gun blowing the rat smell around in my snake room might have put all of them into a feeding frenzy!

Thanks again you guys! Now, let's see if I can keep these little Sumatrans sweethearts eating like that every week... *fingers crossed*

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I thought you guys might find it interesting to hear that I used a heat gun to heat up the rats for all of my snakes yesterday instead of running them directly under hot water and both of these little stinkers IMMEDIATELY snatched them right up with authority as soon as I pulled their tubs out! :) There was definitely something different about feeding day yesterday all around, too. ALL of my snakes (except my one Lesser girl that has been on a hunger strike for almost 2 months) were acting ravenous at feeding time! My one Boa boy is always a great eater, but I couldn't even hardly get his tub pulled out. He was basically trying to charge out of the tub like a Retic or Woma! lol I can't help, but think the heat gun blowing the rat smell around in my snake room might have put all of them into a feeding frenzy!

Thanks again you guys! Now, let's see if I can keep these little Sumatrans sweethearts eating like that every week... *fingers crossed*

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Excellent !!'

That's basically the secret of the hairdryer method really , I never thaw in water as I said as it strips all the smell/ odour / taste away - the hairdryer warms up the rodent and blows the rodent aroma all around the room ... all my snakes are tongue flicking in anticipation :)


You'll have much more confidence next time !



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2nd week in a row now these guys immediately snatched up their rats with authority and every snake in the room was ravenous from the smell of rat being blown around! :) This whole blow drying thing is definitely the miracle solution!

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2nd week in a row now these guys immediately snatched up their rats with authority and every snake in the room was ravenous from the smell of rat being blown around! :) This whole blow drying thing is definitely the miracle solution!

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The blow drier thing is great until you have to feed a lot of animals.

Yes... It is sorta a pain and the rat smell it fills the air with while you're doing it is pretty gross...