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In the Glades

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  • 04-06-2017, 05:43 PM
    JodanOrNoDan
    In the Glades
    Don't know if we can call this good or bad press but this is what is going on down here right now.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/15-foot-b...151432312.html
  • 04-06-2017, 06:14 PM
    bcr229
    I'd heard about the hunts.

    Are you in the Everglades area? My husband will be down there in a few weeks doing some photography for National Geographic.
  • 04-06-2017, 06:20 PM
    JodanOrNoDan
    Re: In the Glades
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bcr229 View Post
    I'd heard about the hunts.

    Are you in the Everglades area? My husband will be down there in a few weeks doing some photography for National Geographic.

    Yup. If I walk across the street I'd be wet. I see gators almost every day. He should have lots to take pictures of. Birds and reptiles galore. Some that belong here, some that don't.
  • 04-06-2017, 06:50 PM
    AbsoluteApril
    Since the burms have been there for so long, I'm actually surprised they aren't finding larger ones.
  • 04-06-2017, 06:55 PM
    JodanOrNoDan
    Re: In the Glades
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AbsoluteApril View Post
    Since the burms have been there for so long, I'm actually surprised they aren't finding larger ones.

    I'm sure they are here. Unless you have seen the everglades or something like it, it is kind of hard to describe. Finding anything there is hard. If you are finding some of anything there odds are there are many, many more going unseen. The burms are here to stay. There is no way they are going to get them all. They would be lucky to get a 1000th of the population.
  • 04-06-2017, 06:59 PM
    redshepherd
    I actually hate how media always just writes "python" and not specify the species (burmese python, african rock python, etc). It's writing like this that is honestly what's making the average people shun and cringe when they hear we have a ball PYTHON. Making people think "python" is a single species that all grow to 15 feet lol.

    slightly off topic :I
  • 04-06-2017, 09:46 PM
    FlynnTheBP
    Looks like bad press to me. The way the article is written gives me the distinct feeling that it's playing on the traditional "fear" factor when it comes to snakes.
  • 04-07-2017, 07:25 AM
    CALM Pythons
    Re: In the Glades
    Gods gorgeous creatures and they're killing them. How sad. [emoji35]


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  • 04-07-2017, 09:24 AM
    JodanOrNoDan
    Re: In the Glades
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mr Sully View Post
    Gods gorgeous creatures and they're killing them. How sad. [emoji35]


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    I hear you, but the problem is the addition of another apex predator. Hopefully things will balance themselves out.
  • 04-07-2017, 09:29 AM
    CALM Pythons
    Re: In the Glades
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JodanOrNoDan View Post
    I hear you, but the problem is the addition of another apex predator. Hopefully things will balance themselves out.

    Ohh i understand. I just wish they would catch and release back in their home countries.


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  • 04-07-2017, 09:33 AM
    Craiga 01453
    Re: In the Glades
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mr Sully View Post
    Gods gorgeous creatures and they're killing them. How sad. [emoji35]


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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mr Sully View Post
    Ohh i understand. I just wish they would catch and release back in their home countries.


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    I would imagine they would use financial reasons as for why to not re-home the animals. Yet they are paying decent money to the people slaughtering them, and bonuses for bigger animals. Maybe just use that money to re-home them?
    But...what are the laws as far as exporting them? Are the countries of their origin willing to import them back?
  • 04-07-2017, 09:47 AM
    predatorkeeper87
    Re: In the Glades
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by craigafrechette View Post
    I would imagine they would use financial reasons as for why to not re-home the animals. Yet they are paying decent money to the people slaughtering them, and bonuses for bigger animals. Maybe just use that money to re-home them?
    But...what are the laws as far as exporting them? Are the countries of their origin willing to import them back?

    Between CITIES, the possibility of transmission of non-native parasites/bacteria/viruses to the country of origin and the cost exporting/importing multiple hundred pound live animals its by far cheaper to pay people to kill the animals.

    I don't know how feasible it is but could they not use the snakes as a food source? I'd imagine a burm wouldn't taste terrible if prepared right and that way the animals don't go to waste. Treat it like they do in other states with confiscated illegal kills of deer, moose etc and give the meat to a homeless shelter or hell just give it to whoever wants to eat it lol.
  • 04-07-2017, 09:50 AM
    Craiga 01453
    Re: In the Glades
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by predatorkeeper87 View Post
    Between CITIES, the possibility of transmission of non-native parasites/bacteria/viruses to the country of origin and the cost exporting/importing multiple hundred pound live animals its by far cheaper to pay people to kill the animals.


    True
  • 04-07-2017, 09:59 AM
    JodanOrNoDan
    Re: In the Glades
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by predatorkeeper87 View Post
    Between CITIES, the possibility of transmission of non-native parasites/bacteria/viruses to the country of origin and the cost exporting/importing multiple hundred pound live animals its by far cheaper to pay people to kill the animals.

    I don't know how feasible it is but could they not use the snakes as a food source? I'd imagine a burm wouldn't taste terrible if prepared right and that way the animals don't go to waste. Treat it like they do in other states with confiscated illegal kills of deer, moose etc and give the meat to a homeless shelter or hell just give it to whoever wants to eat it lol.

    I am pretty sure at least the skins are sold. I imagine they would taste similar to gator which is actually pretty tasty.
  • 04-07-2017, 10:05 AM
    predatorkeeper87
    Re: In the Glades
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JodanOrNoDan View Post
    I am pretty sure at least the skins are sold. I imagine they would taste similar to gator which is actually pretty tasty.

    That's what I'm saying, most obligate carnivores taste pretty good, and at 100+ pounds that should yield quite a bit of usable meat.
  • 04-07-2017, 10:09 AM
    Zincubus
    Re: In the Glades
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by predatorkeeper87 View Post
    That's what I'm saying, most obligate carnivores taste pretty good, and at 100+ pounds that should yield quite a bit of usable meat.

    Well humans tend to eat most things .

    Wonder why they don't eat them ?

    Too boney ?
  • 04-07-2017, 10:14 AM
    predatorkeeper87
    Re: In the Glades
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Zincubus View Post
    Well humans tend to eat most things .

    Wonder why they don't eat them ?

    Too boney ?

    we eat other snakes, its not out of the question.

    All snakes are super boney but a burm cant be hard to debone lol. the rib bones have to be what? the size of a human pinkie? lol
  • 04-07-2017, 10:27 AM
    sneksNferts
    I'd try it. If nothing else, they could make a bunch of weird jerky out of it. :rofl:
  • 04-07-2017, 10:29 AM
    Lizardlicks
    idk pics I seen of large burm skeletons, the ribs still seem awfully delicate. I shouldn't think it'd be too difficult?
  • 04-07-2017, 11:28 AM
    bcr229
    The burms in Florida have been tested and rejected as a safe food source due to mercury contamination of the meat.

    https://www.outsideonline.com/179494...at-python-meat

    Funny thing is I've seen suggestions in other forums for giant constrictors to be farm-raised, humanely slaughtered, and the meat/skin sold commercially like we do with cattle, pigs, chickens, etc. and the screams of anguish from reptile lovers is astounding. Considering that python meat is around $40/pound for filet I'm surprised it's not being done yet.
  • 04-07-2017, 11:34 AM
    JodanOrNoDan
    Re: In the Glades
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bcr229 View Post
    The burms in Florida have been tested and rejected as a safe food source due to mercury contamination of the meat.

    https://www.outsideonline.com/179494...at-python-meat

    Funny thing is I've seen suggestions in other forums for giant constrictors to be farm-raised, humanely slaughtered, and the meat/skin sold commercially like we do with cattle, pigs, chickens, etc. and the screams of anguish from reptile lovers is astounding. Considering that python meat is around $40/pound for filet I'm surprised it's not being done yet.

    Wow. Didn't know that.
  • 04-07-2017, 11:50 AM
    predatorkeeper87
    Re: In the Glades
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JodanOrNoDan View Post
    Wow. Didn't know that.

    nor did I. I'm glad they at least looked into it. Were are they picking mercury up from I wonder...the birds?

    I would completely endorse snake farming for food, as long as it was done correctly. at 40/pound I might have to be the enterprising startup stateside lol.
  • 04-07-2017, 12:32 PM
    Lizardlicks
    People sure do still love they're shark fins and sword fish steaks, and those are full of mercury. I would be interested to know where the contamination is coming from too, since everyone is so protective over the everglades as a natural resource.
  • 04-07-2017, 12:38 PM
    Aste88
    I know I shouldn't but I feel sad seeing those beauties dead :(
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