What morph is my new buddy?

Hi :new: :)

This is my first thread here! I hope to learn a lot from everyone.

I set up a nice, but basic enclosure for a ball python, and picked up my new friend two days ago. Tikal is a male ball python, just over a year old. He eats fantastically already! He was sold to me as an "assorted" BP (some unknown morph or combo of morphs), at a higher price than the normal BPs. He's a handsome fellow, but he looks fairly normal to me. I am brand new to the world of snakes, so it's hard for me to compare him to anything else though. I tried researching a bit online but I haven't found anything obvious. I'll post some pictures and there are more in my gallery. Did I overpay for a "normal" ball python, or does he appear to be some kind of morph? Even if he is a normal guy, I still love him just the same!

Thanks

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Normal until proven differently.


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Nothing "morph" about it.

Definitely normal, and he looks dehydrated.

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Thanks for your help! That's what I suspected.

Normal, as for overpaying normal male go for about $15 while female go for about $20 at shows.

Same online + $50/$75 Shipping

Dezoruba, what are the signs of dehydration? The person I got him from did say that he has had some shed issues because he was kept in an enclosure with too low of humidity/inadequate water for a while, so I'm not really surprised. I have a large water bowl and mist the cage daily, so is there anything else I can do? (Hot side is around 85 degrees, cold side is around 79 degrees). Thanks :)

I'll be talking to the pet store about getting the price difference back. :gj:

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Originally Posted by TattedLass253

Dezoruba, what are the signs of dehydration? The person I got him from did say that he has had some shed issues because he was kept in an enclosure with too low of humidity/inadequate water for a while, so I'm not really surprised. I have a large water bowl and mist the cage daily, so is there anything else I can do? (Hot side is around 85 degrees, cold side is around 79 degrees). Thanks :)

I'll be talking to the pet store about getting the price difference back. :gj:

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I say he looks dehydrated because of the way his eye caps are dented in. That can happen due to dehydration or from retained eye caps. Both of which are a result of too low humidity. Id give him one good half hour soak in luke warm water and make sure his humidity stays at least 50% but ideally closer to 70%.

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The humidity is steady from 60-70% in the middle of the tank. The cold side has moisture on the glass near the water, so he definitely has a nice humid area.
Thanks for the info on his eyes - I'll take a better look tomorrow. And I'll give him a bath to hopefully get him up to speed.

Update: spoke with the manager at the store I bought Tikal from. Although his phenotype is "normal", he does have some genetics for a morph from one parent. I could care less since I'm not breeding him.

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Although his phenotype is "normal", he does have some genetics for a morph from one parent.

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Speachless....

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Update: spoke with the manager at the store I bought Tikal from. Although his phenotype is "normal", he does have some genetics for a morph from one parent. I could care less since I'm not breeding him.

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Maybe they mean a het? Not a visual morph, in any case.

Anything to drive up the cost of an animal. Shame - Shame.

What's you're setup like? I'm only seeing one hide, the log one, unless you've got two of those, I wouldn't recommend open ended hides btw. They don't provide quite as much security as a hide box or cave type hide. He's gorgeous btw. I have a normal tooo.... somewhere around my house. She's been missing since Saturday QnQ


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Update: spoke with the manager at the store I bought Tikal from. Although his phenotype is "normal", he does have some genetics for a morph from one parent. I could care less since I'm not breeding him.

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If that's the case, I'd request paperwork, especially since you paid more.

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If that's the case, I'd request paperwork, especially since you paid more.

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This. I'd be pretty adamant about seeing the parents/paperwork of the parents and just what possible het my snake could be if I paid more. If they can't provide that I'd be getting a refund lol.

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This. I'd be pretty adamant about seeing the parents/paperwork of the parents and just what possible het my snake could be if I paid more. If they can't provide that I'd be getting a refund lol.

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I'd get a refund if I were you, anyone who pulls sort of stuff is not worth buying from.

Take it back. It is dehydrated and misrepresentation of an animal is fraud. The seller is a scumbag as far as I am concerned. Taking advantage of people who do not know any better is not good.

Redsheperd - I really don't know enough about ball python genetics to say. Even if they are completely lying and he was just way overpriced, I'm kind of over worrying about it :confused:

Oneeyedfox - I actually had to move him back to a smaller 30 gallon tank, at least for the time being. I'll add a picture of the setup.

Jodanornodan - right? I'm only hesitant to return him because I don't want the poor guy to go back to sub-par care. :( I've given him two baths and am checking the humidity regularly to make sure he's well hydrated. Do you guys think it's worth taking him back?

I'll include a picture of his head now - I'm not experienced enough to tell if his eyes look better. If someone could help me out, that would be great.

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Here's his setup:

The half-log hide is against the back wall, so it's only accessible from the front. He seems to like the driftwood better though anyways.

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