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Just made my first personal 'protection' purchase!
From the background I come from, this is kind of a sensitive topic. My family never kept firearms in the house and never believed in keeping them. Well, in the past year or so I've taken in interest in shooting as well as have been beginning to feel the nee for some sort of personal protection. I go to VCU, in downtown richmond. The campus area is nice, but as soon as you leave, the area gets kinda rough. There have been a lot of burglaries and robberies lately, targeting students in the area.
All that said, I bought a Glock model 26. Its a 9mm sub-compact auto. Its the same as the model 19 except that the handgrip is shortened significantly. Those shoot very fluidly too, as opposed to dual action revolvers and the like.
Anyone else keep protection in the house or just as a general interest???
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Anyone else keep protection in the house or just as a general interest???
Nope, I'm Married!...lol I pitty the fool that wakes my wife up in the middle of the night..lol :lmao:
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Let's just say that anyone entering my home univited will find that he has left his civil rights outside (and probably won't be able to reclaim them). : )
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i think now a days it should be pretty much mandatory to have a weapon. u never know whats gonna happen when your asleep i keep knives under my mattress and it not being hunting season yet my guns are all put away in a vault but where i live every body knows i am the crazy fat white boy.I mean the society we live in now a days is just all about drugs/gangs/violence but what poeple need to understand is there are kids and elderly poeple who really cant do much to defend them selfs. so if some one does a drive by who is left behind kids and elderly poeple.i dont think a gun should be used unless NEEDED.because it is poeple who use guns in a negative ways who cause all of us outdoors men to be blamed. but you better believe if any body ever just walks in my house while i am asleep or i am there to see them break in only thing stopping them from geting shot is if i miss. and of course all my guns are watched very closely if hunting season is in and there are kids around after hunting season my guns go in a vault.
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all im gonna say is be careful. lol, dont shoot yourself in the leg. im only 18, i have no guns of my own, nor a desire to own one, but my parents have a rifle and a shotgun, not sure what model or what not seeeing as how i never really cared to look, but i know their old. they were used for hunting, theyre not used anymore though
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I have had a rueger P89 Special Edition for several years now and been through some courses. I didn't purchase it for personal protection so much...I live in a small town with few incidents. The worst I have had is a peeping tom...and he was dang lucky he took off running...and that I had to take time to get dressed!
Just be carefull...that's a no brainer I know. Make sure you register the weapon with the local law enforcement and maybe look into CCW classes if you feel the need.
-TW
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I have shotguns, rifles and a wicked compound bow... All of my weapons are in the closet in my bed room, but they are only used for hunting and are never taken out or touched for any other reason. I love my guns...they are the most prized items that I own. As far a weapons go,if I will not hunt with it...then I will not buy it....if weapons are not used for hunting...then what are they used for?...to hurt people.
And a far a home protection, my shotgun can deal alot more damage to someone trying to hurt my family than any pistol.
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Well living in WV has its perks.. I have had a concealed weapon permit since I was 21.. Now I feel naked if I dont have my gun in my pants..lol
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VA state law requires you to complete a course before you can obtain a concealed weapons permit. In the next couple of months I'm going to take the course, not thinking that I'm going to carry it around all of the time, but just to really familiarize myself with all of the laws, safety, etc related to owning a firearm. Its just something that shouldn't be taken lightly, yet suprising enough of how easy it is to obtain one in the first place. I didn't have to wait but 20 minutes for them to run my paperwork through and I left the store with a weapon....kinda scary almost...
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Originally Posted by justcage
Well living in WV has its perks.. I have had a concealed weapon permit since I was 21.. Now I feel naked if I dont have my gun in my pants..lol
i agree the city i moved to 10 years ago gave out ccw's and my and the wife both carry and i would never have it any other way.
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As for "make sure you register with law enforcement" in most places, that's not required. It's that pesky 2nd amendment to the constitution that says you have a right to keep and bear arms. The only reason for registration is to know who has em', so you know where to go to take em' away.
I have a CCW permit. I rarely carry, but it's nice to know that I can if I want to or feel I'm going someplace that might be dangerous.
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HIya guys....First post and it is about a weapon....go figure..lol
Glock 26's are nice little weapons that have only 1 downside...If ya got medium to large hands your pinky will hang off the bottom...
never has bothered me, but some like to put Pearce Grip extensions on them to give them more control...While the 26 doesnt jump around like the 27 or the 32 it can still help a bit for those not used to shooting such small weapons...
http://http://www.gunaccessories.com...rips/index.asp
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hey brad i know of an outdoor range in new kent co. where you can shoot all you want and with your own ammo. vcu getting that rough huh?
vaughn
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Every week I get a mass email from the provost to all students regarding crime activity around campus. The issue is that 90% of "on-campus" students actually live just blocks away throughout the fan district. VCU Police have zero jurisdiction there, and do not patrol those blocks, leaving it to Richmond Police. Most of the recent robberies involve perps who are brandishing knives to the victim and demanding wallets and cell phones and stuff.
To make it even better for us students, VCU prohibits the possesion of ANY kind of weapon on campus grounds by students including knives and firearms. I know a few people who concealed carry anyway, but it doesn't discourage prospective criminals to know that students walking to and from class are most likely unarmed because of school policy.
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Greetings all:
I was wondering about the concealed carry on campus. Most states outlaw such even if you have a permit. I know in Florida, even though I am a Police Officer, I can't carry concealed on a state colledge campus, unless I am on official police business. So be carefull with that one.
As for your choice in the Glock 26, be sure you do a bunch of shooting with it to get aquanted with the erganomics of the weapon. Also, make sure you hold on to it very well, of course to keep from the little guy jumping out of your hand, but also, because the Glock is recoil opperated, and if you try to obsorb the recoil in your wrist and arm, it will malfunction. (won't feed the next round correctly) You have chosen in my humble opinion the very best brand of handgun. The Glock 22 .40 cal. is what we issue my officers, and I am the department Firearms instructor, so I have seen a bunch of different ones. Most of you name brand guns are very well built but few compair to the durribility of the glock.
Someone on this thread meantoned having the Rugar p89. That is the same weapon that I went through the acadamy with. It never failed me. My stance on the Glock however, is very unwavering. This is mostly due to my experience with guns. Not only am I an instructor, but I worked part time in a gun shop for a while as well. While I was there, I had the chance to view a very inspiring durrability test that Glock did to it's pistol. I was very impressed. They abused that poor pistol so very bad, droped it 300 feet out oh a helocopter onto pavement, Ran it over with a Cat D-9, submurdged it in mud, froze it in a block of Ice (and broke it out with a hammer and shot it while it was still at freezint temps..) Not to mention it is the only semi auto pistol that will fire under water. They did all of this to the same pistol, and it never failed to fire. And if you are considering carrieing concealed, the finish on the Glock is a "Tinnifer" finish that only Glock has. It is more tarnish resistant than Stanless Steel.
Also remember only shoot metal jacketed bullets out of your Glock!!!!!!! Never shoot lead ball ammo!!!!!!The new frangible ammo is o.k. as well, however, it is expencive to shoot. Just Never shoot the lead ball ammo! Other than that it will eat just about anything.
By the way. You all realize that if Rosie O'Donell ever reads this thread, she will hunt all of us down and scream at us for being vile gun owners don't yall.....lol And enjoy your rights now, while you still can because they are stedally taking them away.
As for myself, I have a fairly extencive collection, some for hunting, some for protection, Some for work. My favorite is my sniper rifle..... I love shooting that thing. It takes all of the work out of making acurate shots. I also love shooting my bow. Unfortunately, as I mentioned in another post, Iwill probably not hunt with it this year, but I will still be shooting it.
As for home protection, when folks ask I usually recomend a shotgun of some description. This is for several reasons.
1. You don't have to be a marksman to hit what you are aiming at.
2. You don't have to worry about the rounds goig through three walls and into the street to hit a child or inocent walker by.
3. Take a 12 ga with OObuck shot. You now have 12 .357 rounds flying down range instead of one. Your odds are better that the dirt bag will not survive to finish what he was doing or sue.
4. No offence ladies, but for the weomen out there that get a bit freaked out with guns, or men for that matter, a good pump shotgun or double barrel shotgun will have fewer problems such as jamming, than alot of you semi auto pistols.
5. Unless you have ever been in a dark room and heard the metalic sound of a pump shotgun racking back and slamming shut, you can't understand the intimidation that will occurr. That is what we refer to at work as the international sound for silence, and responce. That sound will stop 30 people from fighting and make them pay attention to you. Much less if you are where you arn't supposed to be, you will be more apt to just be ready to get the heck out of there.
That is my two cents. Happy shooting all, and to all a good night.
Ray
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Ray, thanks for the reply. I did a lot of homework on what type and brand to purchase, and most (if not all) of those in law enforcement that I spoke to said to go with a Glock and nothing less- one officer said he'd rather trust his life to a baseball bat than some other cheaper semi-autos.
I went to a firing range here and shot an S&W .38, Glock 19, 26, and 40. The 19 was my favorite, with the 40 just kicking back way too much for my hands. With the 40, my 2nd and 3rd sequential shots got dangerously less accurate. I decided to go with the 26 because of its size, while keeping the stoppability of a 19. I went ahead and bought a Pearce grip extension for my 26, and it feels much better.
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And as far as the CCW laws on campus- I did some research and found that I was told wrong - Virginia Tech is the only state college that allows "Authorized Use Only" (Authorized Use Only Policy states that firearms possession is for authorized use only - ROTC, rifle team or a specific educational activity). All other campuses have Zero Tolerance.
Follow this link to find the results of a nationwide survey among college campus gun policies - http://www.allianceforjustice.org/st...ge_survey.html
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Oh my Ray! LOL.
Don't know if you ever listen to Neal Boortz on the radio or not, but he believes that anyone who breaks into someone else's property deserves to be DRT (Dead Right There).
I once worked in a bad area and would sometimes call for police escort to my car and had asked one of them about getting a gun and the laws about firing it if I felt my life was in danger, etc. I'll never forget what he told me...."Better to be judged by 12 than to be carried by 6". I used to apologize for having them come out and escort me to my car and they all told me it was much less paperwork for them to offer that service than to have to come out and write up a crime scene if I was attacked.
Thank you all for your hard work! (PS, I'm really not stalking you tonight, I'm just bored and you seem to be on all the boards I've been checking out tonight! LOL)
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I like the look and feel of the 357 Magnum revlover :) Though I'm pretty sure if I decide to fire one, I would end up shooting myself in the foot :D
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I´M lucky in Europe we don´t have that gun idea, we prefere to put barrs on the windows or alarms....guns are no good, and if some one get in your house and have a gun, and see you with a gun...will shoot, if you are without a gun probably they let you live...
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You just go ahead and stay in Europe.
Here in the land of the free and the home of the brave, we don't need to sleep behind barred windows, because the bad guys have a nugget of fear planted in their hearts when they don't know which house on the street is armed and which isn't.
If they were all armed, the fear would become absolute, and they'd never think about entering a residence.
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I absolutely dislike gun control discussions because they tend to become highly emotional, though I've yet to figure out quite why Americans are this passionate about their right to bear arms. However I do feel the need to respond to Ken's post.
Ken that's patently unfair and incorrect to state that "Here in the land of the free and the home of the brave, we don't need to sleep behind barred windows..." when millions of Americans in some of your larger cities do just that. If you wish to argue with someone from another country, at least try to be fair and honest about your own country's issues with personal safety and crime.
I am a Canadian who now lives in the United States. I adore and honor this country as much as I did the one of my birth but I will not pretend either country doesn't have it's own particular social problems. In the States that does include gun control issues as regards the sad statistics that per capita you do have a much higher homicide and suicide rate in your own homes related to the easier availability of guns (in particular hand guns).
One cannot argue the 2x higher rate for homicide and the 4x rate for suicide by gun that occur in American homes as compared to Canadian homes (per 100K). There is of course many factors that make up statistics and of course they can be manipulated to some degree but simple numbers do reflect that guns in the home create a higher risk factor to your own family (most especially if teens reside in the home).
I don't dispute your right to bare arms, it's in your constitution and I would protect and defend that as much as the Canadian one I grew up under. I don't know if your problems here stem more from storage issues then actual ownership or perhaps a lack of training prior to purchase.
Whatever the issues are I think as reasonable adults that wish to own a deadly weapon and protect their constitutional rights to do so, you can't just blow off these problems or get unreasonably defensive. I don't believe any country has the right answer regarding guns in the home but I do get offended when some Americans seem to believe they have the ultimate answer. This only closes ones mind to options and knowledge to be gained from another culture's experience.
~~Joanna~~
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Lets keep it civil in here folks :) BP.net is a family oriented forum and some comments are unwarrented at the dinner table :P. To be honest I think we should not even be talking about this issue here. Do not get me wrong. I like guns and agree with most of what was said in this topic. I just think it is not something we should discuss here considering we have a 12 year old on board :teddy: There are plenty of forums where one can go and discuss the issue of gun ownership and I do not think the original post was intended to start a discussion over this. Just my two cents :D
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Dang Iceman25 you clipped my wings, just when it started to get wound up good in here..lol
I will digress with this last statement, "I believe in gun control,,,,, a sharp eye, and steady hand!
I also give thanks to them that have given the ultimate sacrafice to allow me to have these rights (Founding fathers and veterins of the American Revalution), and to them that have done the same to allow me to keep them. ( any Veterin of Any war that we have ever faught)
And I digress
Cheers
Ray
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Originally Posted by pumba
Dang Iceman25 you clipped my wings, just when it started to get wound up good in here..lol
I will digress with this last statement, "I believe in gun control,,,,, a sharp eye, and steady hand!
I also give thanks to them that have given the ultimate sacrafice to allow me to have these rights (Founding fathers and veterins of the American Revalution), and to them that have done the same to allow me to keep them. ( any Veterin of Any war that we have ever faught)
And I digress
Cheers
Ray
Sorry Ray :D
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Ah, guns...
Personally, I want to look into getting my pistol permit. Just because, I don't want to have the cops come into my house someday for a stupid reason (even something beneficial, like me calling for an emergency) and find an illegal pistol. I've watched Cops too many times to allow that to happen. I might seem paranoid, but I don't want anything illegal in our home. Too many bad things happened to friends of mine! If ya wanna smoke wacky weed, there's three hundred acres out back for ya to roam. :) I know how some law enforcers are; I ain't risking m future. And if I am investing big moola into a pistol, it is only going to be after I get permitted.
Right now, my only personal gun is my Ruger .22 semi-auto rifle. It holds 10 bullets and fires them in succession; hence the semi-automatic term. :) I have it mainly for target practice; nothing is more stress-killing than plunkin away at coffee cans. :) I can honestly say, being a woman who lives in a rural area, it makes me feel a bit safer having my gun and knowing how to use it at a moment's notice. I am not saying that gun-owning should be an "image" thing, but people really do think different of me after seeing me shoot. I have impressed my man's hunting uncles and cousins, who say that they have never seen a girl or woman that could shoot their rifles!
I am NOT implying that ya should be trigger-happy and not think beforehand. ANY gun operator HAS to be vigilant and use a gun as a LAST resort; otherwise, people get killed left and right and it makes all gunlovers look bad.
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I should add something else. Take a rural area. I would bet that 80% or more of the houses you'd go into, have at least one gun. But it is sooo bad to have them in the city. I guess this perception comes out of the thoughts that rural people have them for hunting and "varmint" killing. And what would people in the city want a gun for? Defense is the logical thought, but the thing that scares me about urban gun ownership is, buildings are so close together that someone innocent can easily be killed. I think that city people who own guns (actually, everyone who does) have a HUGE responsibility to make sure they know how to operate that gun in all situations, and know where yer shooting and where that bullet can go!
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I had no intention of starting a gun control discussion, but since someone was so inclined to raise the issue, I just want to get this in before the thread gets locked:
“False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience; that would take fire from men because it burns, and water because one may drown in it; that has no remedy for evils, except destruction. The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Can it be supposed that those who have the courage to violate the most sacred laws of humanity, the most important of the code, will respect the less important and arbitrary ones, which can be violated with ease and impunity, and which, if strictly obeyed, would put an end to personal liberty--so dear to men, so dear to the enlightened legislator--and subject innocent persons to all the vexations that the guilty alone ought to suffer? Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man. They ought to be designated as laws not preventative but fearful of crimes, produced by the tumultuous impression of a few isolated facts, and not by thoughtful consideration of the inconveniences and advantages of a universal decree.”--Thomas Jefferson
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Looks like the temperature of the water is getting a little warm....
*takes a quick dip and runs out*
IL has very strict gun laws. I have my firearm owner's id card. When I move, I have to notice and get a new card with my addresss on it. The state police do a background check on you. I haven't acutally bought any guns yet. They're expensive, I'm not 100% sure what I, and obviously, I want to be able to practice. The only non membership club locally without at least a 2 year waiting list is a trap shooting place. (And I have shot trap. I enjoyed it, and I would go more often if I had my own gun).
However, I am far more likely to pull out a sword. I have had a little bit of kum do (Korean version for kendo, in short) training and I plan on picking that back up when I get a chance.
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Hay Elevatethis, All I can say is "AMEN" As I was reading that post, I was thinking to myself,,,,("Man, no one talks like this anymore, nor does anyone write like this, how elequant") then I got to the end and found it was a quote from the Great T.J.
Man oh Man, I can tell you if he came back from the grave right now, He would be jumping up and down. The odasity of states requiting permits, and regulating people's rights. Yes my friends, out founding fathers would be sorely disapointed in us right now.
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This whole thread (sans Jo's post) absolutely blows my mind. Packing heat every single day?! Are you serious?! I've actually been the victim of some pretty horrific violence (my last house was home-invaded by 4 guys with a variety of weapons, including guns; I was forced to watch as they beat my hubby) and even after all that, I can't imagine carrying or even owning a gun. I think about what would have happened that night if I DID have a gun, and I'm positive at least 1 person would have ended up dead, but I really can't say if it would have been the intruders or myself and my hubby, or all the above... God, the thought of being in a position to kill someone, even someone who is threatening my well-being, scares the living @@@@ out of me.
Thankfully the only injuries suffered by us were not life-threatening and we've been able to mostly rebuild what was taken from us.
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I'm so very sad to read your post and my heart does go out to you and your family facing armed intruders.
Having had a rather heated discussion with my own hubby last night about gun control issues I'll do the same here as I've done in my own home. Since Mike and I come from different countries, cultures and policital leanings - agree to disagree.
I hope all that participate in this thread might do just that and fully respect each other's positions and decisions regarding matters of firearms used for personal protection.
~~Joanna~~
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I agree totally. First let me say, Sorry about all of that at your home, That really sucks. As far as your stance on firearms, To each their own, one thing is certon, if you would not be able to use it to defend yourself, then for sure you are doing the right thing by not owning one. That will possibly save your life.
I feel the second amendment is a great thing, but the best thing about our country, is you have that choice. My stance on less laws, more enforcement will never change. I do not agree with gun control simply because they only hinder the law abiding, because the law breakers don't care. I feel if the punishment for the law breakers were more harsh, along with consistant, then we would be better off.
Florida now has a law that is labeled 10-20-life. Basicaly if you have a gun while comitting a crime it is a mandatory 10 years in prison, if you use it it is 20 years, and if someone gets hurt at all, automatic LIFE. This is great and has a catchy toon to it when looking at it. The unfortunate thing is (And I see it with my own two eyes all of the time) the prosicuters rarely use it. I do not understand that.
Oh well, like I said, the best thing is we have that choice.
Cheers to all
Ray
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Well that seems ridiculous Ray. For a prosecutor to decide to basically go against the will of the people of that State seems just wrong. Getting new law passed like that must cost a lot of money and people's time so the prosecutor not using that new law seems an awful waste.
Geesh if I ran our home like that - making a rule and then not enforcing it - the heathens...errrr my darling children....would simply ignore me and I'd lose all credibility with them.
My younger daughter is currently on cool down in my bedroom (like time out but you still get t.v.) for excessive bossiness to her smaller brother. Not a good plan especially when mommy hasn't had enough coffee yet this morning LOL. Elizabeth, Queen of the World aka Hoss the Boss is rather NOT pleased with this but in this house we go by a simple rule....say it, mean it, do it.
Society is just way more complicated then it needs to be.
Btw if I was a store owner in that state I'd put up a huge sign for all the lil criminal types to read.....10....20...LIFE...you do the math!
~~Jo the meannie mom~~
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You just go ahead and stay in Europe.
Here in the land................
I can imagine you saing that to me holding a gun in your hand, just becouse i disagree with you... I have just coment giving my opinion with no intention of atacking anyone here..
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It's interesting, Jo. We're in almost opposite situations, yet still on the same side of the fence. I'm an American that moved to Canada, but I've always felt the same way about guns, even while growing up for 20 years in the good ole US of A. I feel that if you want to own one, GREAT. But you better be DAMN sure that it's locked up and stored properly so accidents don't happen, anything less is totally unacceptable.
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I have own a gun since I was 18. Started with a 22cal pistol, Then a 25 auto and now a 380 loaded w/ hollow points.
I have never had to use it but there have been plenty of times when things got hairy and it felt good to know my hand was on it in my pocket and in those situations it would have been a much needed equalizer.
Having been raised by a DC police officer I learned to fire a gun when I was around 13yo.
He started taking my son to the range when he was about 11 to learn to handle and shoot a 22 cal rifle. When he turned 14 he started to teach him to fire a 38 and a glock 9mm.
I support people owning firearms as long as they have taken some courses or taught firearm safety. I support a 7 day wait period etc.
Funny my dad was one of the officers that worked on the 1968 gun control act in DC and then worked for years in gun control .
Owning a gun doesnt mean violence wont happen to you because sadly sometimes just you and a gun would only get your a worse situation.
But hey one of the great things about freedom is I can own one if I choose or if I dont choose. Thank goodness we have the right to choose!
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I agree compleetly with the proper storage thing. Anything else is just plain old dangerous and uncalled for.
One thing that I have found is if you are going to have guns around your house, one thing that is needed if you have kids is education. I learned by growing up around guns my entire life, that education, and allowed use (Properly) leeds to less curiousity. In other words, if you have kids and guns in the same house, teach them the correct way to handel them, and shoot them. This does a couple of things.
If they see a gun laying around (Which should not happen, but accidents do sometimes) the child will know what it is and what it does. He/she will also know not to mess with it. THis leads me to the next thing. I have several guns in my home. Most are locked in a cabinet that only I have a key to. Of course my duty pistol stays in my duty holster but is out of sight and reach, not to mention, if you don't know how to work the SS III holster, you won't get it out. I do have my evening protector that is in my room with easy axcess, however, when I am not home and the kids are, my room stays locked, not to mention they don't know where it is.
The best thing about it is, If my kids want to shoot, we go out, set up targets, learn about safety, learn about whatever gun we are shooting, learn what the different parts of a gun are, and then shoot. I never tell my kids no when they ask to go out shooting unless we have other things that we need to do. Every time it is the same thing, safety first, remedial training on what kind of gun it is and it's diferent parts, and we shoot safely. My logic for this is not only so they learn responcipal gun ownership, range safety, and gain the ability to shoot, but they are not curious about guns at all. They know what they are, and what they do. When thier friends come over, they don't even think about the guns or have any want to mess with them to impress the friends. They would rather show off the new toy or whatever, the gun is farthest from their mind. THis also means that there is never that, hay dad isn't home, lets check out them guns that we are told we can't touch, sendrom. They know if they want to shoot, we will. Curiousity is what killed the cat, remove the curiousity, and the cat lives. Just my logic.
Botom line, if you have em, take care of em, and use your head. Most police departments have a program that gives away gun locks if you go in and ask. Comon sence is the cure for alot of alements.
CHeers to all
Ray
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Re: Just made my first personal 'protection' purchase!
Interesting thread. You all have stayed a lot more civil than I even expected. :)
While I have never shot a gun (I don't count a pellet gun here) I always have been interested in shooting as my dad has always had guns. He always kept them locked away, but I'd ask him to take them out and show me sometimes. I definitely want to learn how to shoot, and when I live in a more gun-owner friendly state I would like to have a concealed carry permit as it would make me feel more safe in certain situations.
If some person breaks into my home, I want to make sure I can protect myself. Being at the mercy of some criminal is not a situation I ever want to be in.
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Re: Just made my first personal 'protection' purchase!
Great post, Pumba. When I was a kid, my dad always had hunting rifles and shotguns around the house for hunting. Once I was old enuff, he took me and a couple of my friends out to learn how to shoot. Once you, as a kid, learn the arduous tasks of gun cleaning, loading, buying bullets, they kinda lose their "novelty" and just become a boring old adult-oriented item. But in my teen years, I was really interested in learnin more about them, and I was lucky to have my dad teach me. It is one of the few things we did together ebfore he really became a big alcoholic. :)
Movies glamorize guns a LOT; I always think "how can this dude be shooting for so long without reloading, going back to the car for more bullets, cleanin the gun etc. lol! I just hope that kids don't glean most of their gun-knowledge from the movies!
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