What morph is my ball python? + Updated pictures

i'm really new here and i hope i'm not posting in the wrong place anyway

so this is my first ball python Pretzlel
i'm pretty sure he is a spider but it looks like he's got other stuff in him

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ep-db1os4r.jpg:snake:

I only see the spider there, pretty typical of the morph.

Looks like a spider to me

ah that's good! i just wasn't sure! thanks! :)

Yeppers. Nice spider

Only see a Spider

Not seeing a single gene spider here, head, pattern and color are wrong for that.

Spiders

http://stewartreptiles.com/wordpress...ery/Spider.jpg

More Spiders

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/spider/

Now can it be a combo with Spider in it, it is possible, can it be something else it's possible too.

Can you post a picture of the full body stretched out, a belly pic and an eye pic.

I'm still terrible at guessing morphs for bps, but I also didn't see spider. It reminds me of a low expression calico though?

I was more inclined to call it like a black pastel spider but I don't think that's right either. It looks like a spider combo with something that brings back the patterning in the spider


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Yeah it's missing a head stamp but I just can't see what else would be in it?

OP, did you get this from a breeder and can they tell you whet pairing it cam from?

I personally think that it might just be a funky looking normal.. but then there's the eyes :/ doesn't look like a typical spider to me.

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Looks a lot like my cinnamon spider xx

Definitely spider there, definitely with something else. I personally think cinnamon is present. Not reduced enough for a normal spider, no head stamp. Cinnamon tends to knock out the head stamp and add pattern back as seen on the snake in question. But of course it's all guesswork unless you know the pairing or prove it out.

Spider 100%


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Huh, I would've guessed a Hidden Gene Woma, but it could also be a Cinna Bee. Tough call.

To me, looks like a funky normal. Not sure where so many seem to see spider in tht animal..but I just dnt see it..not at all. What was it sold to you as? Where did you purchase it?

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I would be inclined to believe Debra when she says that isnt a spider. I have a killerbee, spider variant, mine has completely diff markings than what OP posted.

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I would be inclined to believe Debra when she says that isnt a spider. I have a killerbee, spider variant, mine has completely diff markings than what OP posted.

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I didn't say it wasn't just said it's not a single gene spider ;), I am pretty sure there is spider however the real question is what else and how many genes are there.

Black Pastel and or Cinny are a strong possibility also it would not be the best looking black bee or cinny bee

The white sides are what tells it apart from normal but other traits do not Match a single gene spider.

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thanks for all the answers! but I'm pretty sure I've found out he is a cinnabee!

like this one:

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...074625a504.jpg

hiya i'm pretty sure he is a cinnabee after doing some research! ;)
because he looks exactly like this one which is a cinnabee

thanks for you help!!

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...074625a504.jpg

I actually got him from the RSPCA so I have no idea unfortunately :/

for my previous and first thread i was wondering what morph my ball python was
so i took him to my local breeder can i'm pretty sure i have the anwser
sorry if i'm still doing anything wrong i'm still super new to this

but we were both pretty sure he is a cinnabee with the hidden woma gene
and he has no head wobble

but here's some extra images of him if you think different i'd really like to know :P
eye pic, full body pic, belly pichttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ep-db3r1hl.jpghttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ep-db3r2ns.png

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ep-db1os4r.jpghttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ep-db3r1dj.png

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and he has no head wobble

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They all do to various degree, you just do not know what to look for.

As for what it is you will never know for certain until you breed it to a normal and see the results, that's what you get when you adopt an animal instead of buying from a breeder.

Merged BTW no need for several threads about the same topic

i might try to contact the old owner to see if i can find the seller if i can anyway
it's all just speculation for now haha
and he doesn't have any noticeable head wobble i think anyway. thanks for the answer! :)

Not sure about the HGW but who knows, maybe it's "hiding". Lol:rolleyes:

Either way he's beautiful and congrats on rescuing him, had no idea RSPCA existed

haha yeah that's what i was told so i have no idea really :oops:

oh and yeah the RSPCA is a really cool place i was so surprised at the amount of snakes they had and interesting morphs
one that really striked me was the snow corn snake they had which was absolutely beautiful