Burmese python size

Hello im a keeper of a baby burmese python and i wonder how big they get at difrent ages.
If you have any burmese pythons could you post a a picture of how long it is and how old.

It will max out at around 11-20 feet when fully grown. It all depends on its gender and how often it's being fed, health, etc. They grow relatively quickly and will need a large enclosure when fully grown. I would say yours currently needs a thirty gallon based on the pictures I've seen, but it's really to tell the size in those. Can you send one of him compared to your hand or a yard stick? Do you know his approximate length and weight?

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Originally Posted by FlynnTheBP

It will max out at around 11-20 feet when fully grown. It all depends on its gender and how often it's being fed, health, etc. They grow relatively quickly and will need a large enclosure when fully grown. I would say yours currently needs a thirty gallon based on the pictures I've seen, but it's really to tell the size in those. Can you send one of him compared to your hand or a yard stick? Do you know his approximate length and weight?

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This is him/her on my hand.

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I would say a 20-30 gal should be good for the time being. But maybe others disagree, it isn't concrete. You could always go bigger.

Lol, now is not the time to ask 'how big will my Burmese get'. Like mentioned they get 11-16' and it is going to eat big stuff. Hope you are ready for rabbits lol. I would say a good start would be a 4x2 cage but by the end you will need something like a 8x3. A Burmese python is the wrong snake to impulse or blindly buy. Kind of like a retic.

For a size comparison, look at Mr Sully's avatar. That's his Burmese and the thing stretches from the floor to above the counter where a over the stove microwave is.

Expect at least a 10'+ adult snake that is incredibly heavy bodied. One of the largest and heaviest snake species on earth. Bare minimum two people to handle at adult size. It will need probably a minimum 6' cage, more likely 8'. Do you have a supplier for rabbits when it needs prey that large? All things that need to be considered (preferably) before acquiring the animal. I don't mean to sound overly critical but this is definitely more of an advanced species to work with after you've had some years of experience with smaller more manageable snakes. Best of luck


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I really think you shound consider rehoming your Burmese. You're 19 and not very experienced with snakes. Soon you will be overwhelmed with the size of this snake.

I only want what's best for the snake. It would thrive in the hands of someone who has experience with larger snakes. Of course it's your snake so it's your decision but I think it would be better for you to have a smaller, more manageable snake. Be sure to do lots of research next time please.

Just so everyone knows, the OP was misinformed, or so they said, and told their snake was a corn snake when they bought it. Whatever the case, they have the animal and need help taking care of it. They were prepared for a corn, not a Burm. Not saying they shouldn't rehome it or that it's okay to impulse buy, but there is no point berating them now, they hopefully have learned their lesson.

Not sure how he mistook a Burmese python for a corn snake but ok. On the plus side, this is about as far across the spectrum as you can get for size and requirements. At least if he learns to take care and handle a 16' snake without getting eaten or killed, then anything else will be a child's play lol.

To the OP, first rule, never let a large constrictor wrap around your neck. I have read articles of large Burmese killing their owners cause the owners were negligent and the snake got startled and tightened around the owners neck. Then the owner tried to pull it off along with his wife and her friend. Well the 13' snake tightened more as now it is scared and the guy was dead in about 5 mins, before the fire dept could even get there. So just be responsible and know/learn the requirements of owning something large and strong. Large constrictors are basically a giant tube of muscle. They can easily overpower a human if so inclined.

Heck my 7' female boa who is a giant puppy dog overpowers me by wrapping on my arm if she doesn't want to go back in her cage lol. There is no way I can uncoil her so I just give in and let her hang out until she tires of being out and actually wants to go back into her warm, humid cage lol.

I'm not berating. I'm just saying that he isn't experienced because not many people mistake a burmese python for a corn snake as they look completely different. I just think OP is in over his head and I'm trying to save him from a headache before the snake is fully grown. A corn snake is much easier to care for and make great pets!

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Originally Posted by Kevin Djuvfeldt

Hello im a keeper of a baby burmese python and i wonder how big they get at difrent ages.
If you have any burmese pythons could you post a a picture of how long it is and how old.

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I had one a few years ago , even with very steady and sensible feeding HE was still over 6' at about 9 months old as I recall .

Years later , missing the "Burm experience " I treated my self to a Dwarf F2 Burm Who will hopefully top out at around 6' judging by his parents .. He's about 18 months now .

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Is the dwarf burm nippy and flighty? I was told that being dwarf kills the whole mellowness of a burm. And dang, I thought Caesar was growing like a weed at just over 5' at 9 months old lol

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Is the dwarf burm nippy and flighty? I was told that being dwarf kills the whole mellowness of a burm. And dang, I thought Caesar was growing like a weed at just over 5' at 9 months old lol

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Na , he's just like a big , rather inquisitive Royal .

The new Dwarf Burms ( over here in UK anyway ) are lovely and calm . Back in the day they had problems though . ..

While I agree I don't know how a burm got mistaken for a corn, I think it's a bit quick to jump the gun and say sell it at this moment in time. Op, you are not the first and won't be the last to jump in the deep end, if you prepare yourself for the higher end of the size range and think you can manage then good,. Please do a LOT of reading on them while he is young, find a herp vet who deals with big snakes (there's one near me who can't when they're in the small practise) and a steady food supply, again keeping the higher end of the spectrum in mind. If you then decide that it's too much then look into 're homing to give the noodle the best possible life and care he will need.

I'm going to have to agree that rehoming would be the best thing for this animal (and everybody involved). NOTHING against the OP. We were ALL new once upon a time, I still don't understand how a Burmese freaking python was confused with a corn, but accidents happen... Let's face it, this animal in inexperienced hands can be extremely dangerous, and possibly deadly. As Sauzo stated, these are very strong animals and can be strong enough to overpower and even kill adults. This animal could possibly be a danger to the owner, any family or friends who enter the home, and should the snake escape, possibly a danger to neighbors. The snake could also escape or something and somebody shoots or kills the animal out of fear. Unfortunately, snakes are killed every day by people who don't understand and respect the animals or fear the animals. I just see the negatives outweighing the positives by about a million to one here. This really isn't fair to the animal. It's not too late to rehome the animal and bring home the corn the OP originally thought he was getting.

This girl was hatched 6/29/16 barely over 4'

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I wouldn't jump straight to getting rid of it. Take a couple weeks to do some research and then you'd be able to make a better decision on whether or not you want to take on that commitment. Burms don't grow as fast as retics so you'll have time to get to know the snake.

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This girl was hatched 6/29/16 barely over 4'

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Not too bad though , 4' after just 8 months looks like being 6'+ by 12 months.

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Originally Posted by Kira

I'm not berating. I'm just saying that he isn't experienced because not many people mistake a burmese python for a corn snake as they look completely different. I just think OP is in over his head and I'm trying to save him from a headache before the snake is fully grown. A corn snake is much easier to care for and make great pets!

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Of course, I didn't mean you in particular either, but a lot of people on different threads have joked about the OP, and I feel we could have a bit more constructive criticism. :) Anyway, OP, maybe you can trade your Burm for a corn snake? I'm sure some experienced snake keepers would do it considering the price difference.

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Originally Posted by FlynnTheBP

Of course, I didn't mean you in particular either, but a lot of people on different threads have joked about the OP, and I feel we could have a bit more constructive criticism. :)

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i really appreciate you recognizing the need for strict, constructive criticism. i can't stand these types of people who post here, like OP. it's very easy to get upset, frustrated, and give up. however we can only offer our knowledge and hope for the best; beyond that is not our problem. i have not been the most welcoming to OP and i can't say i'm on your level of patience, but it is important to try. your post kind of roped me in.

lol yeah he needs a burm. While he does have snakes in his vids, he might be having a go at everyone.

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Originally Posted by tttaylorrr

i really appreciate you recognizing the need for strict, constructive criticism. i can't stand these types of people who post here, like OP. it's very easy to get upset, frustrated, and give up. however we can only offer our knowledge and hope for the best; beyond that is not our problem. i have not been the most welcoming to OP and i can't say i'm on your level of patience, but it is important to try. your post kind of roped me in.

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That's funny, because I'm not a patient person in the least, but I've been in a similar situation when I was suddenly "gifted" with a dozen quail and I got a lot of help on another forum. I kind of feel for the OP on some level. Sometimes crap happens and you've just got to do your best.

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Originally Posted by cletus

The OP. Well to clarify, that's the channel that contains the other video he posted about how to feed a boa. Maybe it is. Maybe it isn't.

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Well, ok then... different strokes for different folks. I just hope the animal doesn't end up suffering through all this and it works out somehow. Fingers crossed. :confusd:

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The OP. Well to clarify, that's the channel that contains the other video he posted about how to feed a boa. Maybe it is. Maybe it isn't.

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Well, ok then... different strokes for different folks. I just hope the animal doesn't end up suffering through all this and it works out somehow. Fingers crossed. :confusd:

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Originally Posted by craigafrechette

Well, ok then... different strokes for different folks. I just hope the animal doesn't end up suffering through all this and it works out somehow. Fingers crossed. :confusd:

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Well, ok then... different strokes for different folks. I just hope the animal doesn't end up suffering through all this and it works out somehow. Fingers crossed. :confusd:

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Yep. That's what's important.

Ok, I'm out I can see how he doesn't know a burm from a corn snake. That's all am going to say on the subject. He's not ready for a burm in the least little bit. I hope he listens to reason.

After catching up on your previous threads, you really need to have a long hard think about what is in his best interest. You mentioned you're looking for a girlfriend to help handle him when he's bigger. So say 10 years down the line you don't have anyone to help, are you not going to clean his viv out or feed him? Which doing yourself is not something advisable in the slightest. I'm not going to tell you wether to keep him or sell him as that's your call, but it's very important to know these things in advance. Everyone here only wants to make sure the snake will remain cared for and healthy. What ever you choose I wish you the best.

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Originally Posted by FlynnTheBP

Just so everyone knows, the OP was misinformed, or so they said, and told their snake was a corn snake when they bought it. Whatever the case, they have the animal and need help taking care of it. They were prepared for a corn, not a Burm. Not saying they shouldn't rehome it or that it's okay to impulse buy, but there is no point berating them now, they hopefully have learned their lesson.

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Hoooooow do you make that kind of mistake???😱😱😱

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Hoooooow do you make that kind of mistake???😱😱😱

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I guess people who rarely see pet snakes don't know any better. It's crazy to us, but not to everyone.

I'm not sure whats going on anymore. I don't agree you should get rid of it as when I was about his age, I dove in head first and bought a hatchling Nile Monitor off a breeder I knew and he grew into a giant puppy which Niles aren't known for. I did rehome him though as he simply outgrew what I could offer him. I didn't have the resources to build him a 10x5 cage.

The OP needs to read up on the snake and realize that a burm is going to be a big commitment. And the bigger it gets, the harder it is going to be to rehome it as most people wants baby snakes, not a huge 13' snake off the bat.

And if your reason to try and find a girlfriend is for someone to help you handle the snake, then I don't know what to say. My reasons for wanting a girlfriend at 19 sure weren't to help handle my monitor....or at least I didn't call it that but we'll leave it that as this is a family friendly board lol.

Bottom line is OP, you need to take a real hard look at if you will be able to financially and physically take care of a snake that will grow to at least 12'. If you have any doubts, best to rehome now while its a baby and just find a 'pet' girlfriend. They require more financially and physically but they do thing your snake cant and they don't require being fed a 5lb rabbit every week ;) Good luck.

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I'm not sure whats going on anymore. I don't agree you should get rid of it as when I was about his age, I dove in head first and bought a hatchling Nile Monitor off a breeder I knew and he grew into a giant puppy which Niles aren't known for. I did rehome him though as he simply outgrew what I could offer him. I didn't have the resources to build him a 10x5 cage.

The OP needs to read up on the snake and realize that a burm is going to be a big commitment. And the bigger it gets, the harder it is going to be to rehome it as most people wants baby snakes, not a huge 13' snake off the bat.

And if your reason to try and find a girlfriend is for someone to help you handle the snake, then I don't know what to say. My reasons for wanting a girlfriend at 19 sure weren't to help handle my monitor....or at least I didn't call it that but we'll leave it that as this is a family friendly board lol.

Bottom line is OP, you need to take a real hard look at if you will be able to financially and physically take care of a snake that will grow to at least 12'. If you have any doubts, best to rehome now while its a baby and just find a 'pet' girlfriend. They require more financially and physically but they do thing your snake cant and they don't require being fed a 5lb rabbit every week ;) Good luck.

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Yup, on a serious note, I'm confused. I really don't know what to think about all this...
...on a fun note, thanks, Sauzo, for giving me a chuckle.

All - the video shared was a violation of our site TOS and as such has been removed along with all references to said video. If we cannot stay on topic going forward, this thread will be locked permanently.

In case anyone needs a reminer of the TOS: https://ball-pythons.net/forums/anno...t.php?f=89&a=9.

My apologies to the OP for my post. It was not meant to be hurtful or disrespectful. I'm still not convinced that you aren't just having fun but if you aren't I would encourage you to pay attention to the advice given to you by these folks. You have 2 snakes that are no joke when they reach adult size. They can be very dangerous animals and you need to treat that with respect. The things you do right now will greatly affect their disposition when adults and you should be doing everything you can to ensure you raise calm and healthy animals that can deal with humans. You should be more concerned about things like proper husbandry than whether or not your boa likes to watch TV. There is lots to learn and you are in the right place if that's what you really want.

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Well, ok then... different strokes for different folks. I just hope the animal doesn't end up suffering through all this and it works out somehow. Fingers crossed. :confusd:

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Well, ok then... different strokes for different folks. I just hope the animal doesn't end up suffering through all this and it works out somehow. Fingers crossed. :confusd:

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I will make sure my snakes will have a long and happy life my snakes needs goes b4 mine .

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I'm not sure whats going on anymore. I don't agree you should get rid of it as when I was about his age, I dove in head first and bought a hatchling Nile Monitor off a breeder I knew and he grew into a giant puppy which Niles aren't known for. I did rehome him though as he simply outgrew what I could offer him. I didn't have the resources to build him a 10x5 cage.

The OP needs to read up on the snake and realize that a burm is going to be a big commitment. And the bigger it gets, the harder it is going to be to rehome it as most people wants baby snakes, not a huge 13' snake off the bat.

And if your reason to try and find a girlfriend is for someone to help you handle the snake, then I don't know what to say. My reasons for wanting a girlfriend at 19 sure weren't to help handle my monitor....or at least I didn't call it that but we'll leave it that as this is a family friendly board lol.

Bottom line is OP, you need to take a real hard look at if you will be able to financially and physically take care of a snake that will grow to at least 12'. If you have any doubts, best to rehome now while its a baby and just find a 'pet' girlfriend. They require more financially and physically but they do thing your snake cant and they don't require being fed a 5lb rabbit every week ;) Good luck.

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I have done alot of research, and i know it will get big and financially my snakes needs goes b4 mine.and im thinking about studing to become a herper.

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Originally Posted by tttaylorrr

i really appreciate you recognizing the need for strict, constructive criticism. i can't stand these types of people who post here, like OP. it's very easy to get upset, frustrated, and give up. however we can only offer our knowledge and hope for the best; beyond that is not our problem. i have not been the most welcoming to OP and i can't say i'm on your level of patience, but it is important to try. your post kind of roped me in.

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I agree that whether we like it or not sometimes the best we can do is just try to help. It can become our problem though. Every animal that cannot or is not properly taken care of has the potential to become a bad news story and that is the last thing the hobby needs is bad press.

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Originally Posted by Kevin Djuvfeldt

I have done alot of research, and i know it will get big and financially my snakes needs goes b4 mine.and im thinking about studing to become a herper.

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This statement while maybe being spoken from the heart does not reflect reality. When push comes to shove people will pick the needs of themselves and their families over the needs of their pets. The best that we can do is lessen the chance that the animal cannot be taken care of by ensuring we are financially stable and making sure that we have the time and environment to care for our animals correctly.

If this entire story is really true then whoever the seller is has just as much fault as the op. A very irresponsible sale.

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Originally Posted by Zincubus

I had one a few years ago , even with very steady and sensible feeding HE was still over 6' at about 9 months old as I recall .

Years later , missing the "Burm experience " I treated my self to a Dwarf F2 Burm Who will hopefully top out at around 6' judging by his parents .. He's about 18 months now .

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How do you find the temperament of the dwarf burms? I adore their patterns and colors but don't want that large of a snake.

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How do you find the temperament of the dwarf burms? I adore their patterns and colors but don't want that large of a snake.

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Well mine is an F2 which I think refers to both his parents and their parents all being Dwarfs .


Anyways he's a lovely , calm and friendly fella .

Just the same as normal docile Burm but in a very small 5' long body .


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Well mine is an F2 which I think refers to both his parents and their parents all being Dwarfs .


Anyways he's a lovely , calm and friendly fella .

Just the same as normal docile Burm but in a very small 5' long body .


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I think F2 refers to how many generations are out of the wild. That snakes grandparents were wild. Parents were F1.

Cletus is right. The "F" is the generation. So like he said, if yours is a F2, means the grandparents were WC.

And as far as I know, there is no morph to dwarf burms yet. Only morphs are going to be coming from normals.

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Originally Posted by Sauzo

Cletus is right. The "F" is the generation. So like he said, if yours is a F2, means the grandparents were WC.

And as far as I know, there is no morph to dwarf burms yet. Only morphs are going to be coming from normals.

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It all sounds perfectly feasible . I just know he's a lovely temperament and still very small at under 5' - just like his parents and he's a pet as I don't breed. As regards your last point I'm in the UK so I really can't tell if you mean anywhere or just the US .


Somebody told me that there is no such thing as a Dwarf Hypo Burm and yet mine and his dad are both Hypo and under 5' long and his mum was a 7' Hypo .

It's all very confusing :)

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It all sounds perfectly feasible . I just know he's a lovely temperament and still very small at under 5' - just like his parents and he's a pet as I don't breed. As regards your last point I'm in the UK so I really can't tell if you mean anywhere or just the US .


Somebody told me that there is no such thing as a Dwarf Hypo Burm and yet mine and his dad are both Hypo and under 5' long and his mum was a 7' Hypo .

It's all very confusing :)

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Not sure about the UK but in the US there is no dwarf burm morph. There are different coloring though in dwarfs. Some are 'light phase' and some are 'dark phase' although from what I've read, its not a genetic thing that can be bred. It's just dumb luck. So yours looks like a light phase but its not hypo at least not in the technical term. Unless yours and the parents are really full size burms that were maintenance fed. I have no idea really though. Its probably one of those dumb luck things like how Gene the retic is 50% mainland and only 5.5' where as Caesar my retic is 31% mainland and is just a little over 5' at 10 months old.

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Well mine is an F2 which I think refers to both his parents and their parents all being Dwarfs .

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to clarify F1, F2, etc:
It stands for 'filial generation'
F1 is the offspring of an original pairing
F2 is the offspring of those babies when they are bred together.
F3 is the offspring of those babies, etc etc
It notates interbreeding, breeding siblings together, which as we understand in reptiles is generally not genetically bad for a few generations.

If you bred an F1 to an unrelated snake, those new babies would be F1s from that pairing.
I hope that helps!

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I'm clearly no expert on morphs but it certainly looks like a Hypo to me to be honest .... It's identical in colouration to my full sized Hypo but this one is still under 5' and nearly 3 years old .

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I'm clearly no expert on morphs but it certainly looks like a Hypo to me to be honest .... It's identical in colouration to my full sized Hypo but this one is still under 5' and nearly 3 years old .

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;_; I want one.

Thanks guys .. He's like a big Royal really!

He sometime does the typical Burm hissing when he's touched or disturbed in his viv which I kinda like :)
Thankfully he NEVER strikes or shows any aggression . He's also Relic like in his inquisitiveness . Oh and what an appetite !! Currently on a large rat every 3 weeks...

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Not sure about the UK but in the US there is no dwarf burm morph. There are different coloring though in dwarfs. Some are 'light phase' and some are 'dark phase' although from what I've read, its not a genetic thing that can be bred. It's just dumb luck. So yours looks like a light phase but its not hypo at least not in the technical term. Unless yours and the parents are really full size burms that were maintenance fed. I have no idea really though. Its probably one of those dumb luck things like how Gene the retic is 50% mainland and only 5.5' where as Caesar my retic is 31% mainland and is just a little over 5' at 10 months old.

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Are the temperaments of the dwarf retics improving as well?? This is very exciting for me. I feel I can handle a 6-7' snake... but 10' plus is too much.

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Originally Posted by Hypancistrus

Are the temperaments of the dwarf retics improving as well?? This is very exciting for me. I feel I can handle a 6-7' snake... but 10' plus is too much.

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Well . .... Oddly enough I have one of them as well - although mine is a Super Dwarf - Purple Albino Retic from very small SD parents .

Maybe I'm just lucky but he's just Iike Burm I described above ! Calm and friendly as the breeder promised :)

He's expected to top out at 6 foot , just nice and slender .

Your drawf retic looks great. My I ask where you got him from?

Sorry for the double post.