Are you able to breed a blotched kingsnake and a California Kingsnake?

Hi, my name is Jimmy and I own a female blotched kingsnake named Nyla. Now I have been thinking about getting myself a California kingsnake in the future because they are BEAUTIFUL to me. Now i was wondering if I had both could I breed them? Not professionally. So I'm not going to any specific morphs

yes, they are both lampropeltis getulus and could produce offspring. But why?

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Originally Posted by DennisM

yes, they are both lampropeltis getulus and could produce offspring. But why?

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Curiosity mostly. I just think there both beautiful types of kingsnakes and I would love to see that. But idk if I am breeding. Its just a thought

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Originally Posted by shadowjimmy107

Curiosity mostly. I just think there both beautiful types of kingsnakes and I would love to see that. But idk if I am breeding. Its just a thought

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crossing of lampropeltis sub species has been done in every imaginable combo. in my opinion to the detriment of the hobby. your curiosity can easily be satisfied by googling the cross in question. it's been done countless times. you're right, they are both beautiful snakes; it's a kingsnake thing, they're all great. enjoy them as they are.

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Originally Posted by DennisM

crossing of lampropeltis sub species has been done in every imaginable combo. in my opinion to the detriment of the hobby. your curiosity can easily be satisfied by googling the cross in question. it's been done countless times. you're right, they are both beautiful snakes; it's a kingsnake thing, they're all great. enjoy them as they are.

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I thought so but im not doing it for the rare morph or anything. If I do this it would be my first time and it would be mostly be for the experience

Bad idea.... You essentially will produce hybrid offspring that may or may not have issues with fertility and reproduction as adults. It's one thing to breed snakes that have similar geographical ranges but differing localities as opposed to ones that are not even related geographically. Hybridization is really not encouraged however intergrades are phenomenon that occur naturally in the wild and much more acceptable. The two snakes you want to breed would never meet in the wild but being forced to breed in the terrarium is kind of cruel in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Albert Clark

Bad idea.... You essentially will produce hybrid offspring that may or may not have issues with fertility and reproduction as adults. It's one thing to breed snakes that have similar geographical ranges but differing localities as opposed to ones that are not even related geographically. Hybridization is really not encouraged however intergrades are phenomenon that occur naturally in the wild and much more acceptable. The two snakes you want to breed would never meet in the wild but being forced to breed in the terrarium is kind of cruel in my opinion.

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That being said I will probably just get another blotched king

I have read no reports about fertility issues in hybrid snakes. Lets be accurate in the reasons as to why you should or shouldn't try it. Unless the offspring are unusually spectacular, like a Imperial Pueblan milk snake, then you would have a very hard time finding homes for the offspring. Are you prepared to care for the offspring for life or at least prepared to feed off the babies?

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Originally Posted by AntTheDestroyer

I have read no reports about fertility issues in hybrid snakes. Lets be accurate in the reasons as to why you should or shouldn't try it. Unless the offspring are unusually spectacular, like a Imperial Pueblan milk snake, then you would have a very hard time finding homes for the offspring. Are you prepared to care for the offspring for life or at least prepared to feed off the babies?

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That's a great point about Imperial Pueblans being spectacular ...even then the odds are bad for you getting an absolute stunner like the one I managed to acquire - after 12 months of begging and persuading the breeder .

Mine was described as an Imperial Pueblan King snake ( Pueblan Milk x Albino Cali King ) .

It took years and years to get one as nice as this and it cost a fortune to convince him to release it ) .

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Originally Posted by Zincubus

That's a great point about Imperial Pueblans being spectacular ...even then the odds are bad for you getting an absolute stunner like the one I managed to acquire - after 12 months of begging and persuading the breeder .

Mine was described as an Imperial Pueblan King snake ( Pueblan Milk x Albino Cali King ) .

It took years and years to get one as nice as this and it cost a fortune to convince him to release it ) .

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OMG! he/she's absolutely gorgeous!!! [emoji44][emoji7]


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Originally Posted by halfnakedlife

OMG! he/she's absolutely gorgeous!!! [emoji44][emoji7]


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Oddly enough some LOVE him whilst others HATE his looks !

Well, there is more of a chance that a Mexican species milksnake (pueblan) and a California king would meet in the wild as a intergrade. Certain geographical locations would make this a reality. However, a Florida species would hardly ever meet in any overlapping territories with a California king. Actually, hemipenal structures vary in their compatibility with female cloacal structures in some cases. Lol. I would venture to say what goes on in the terrarium stays in the terrarium in extreme cases. :D

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Originally Posted by Zincubus

Oddly enough some LOVE him whilst others HATE his looks !

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Yeah, I'll acknowledge it's a freaking beautiful snake.

But intergrades and hybrids are just not my cup of tea and I know many people agree.

That, and this snake looks like this. Maybe 1 out of 1000 intergrade/hybrids end up looking that good. If the price was reasonable even a purist like me might consider it looks so cool hahaha.

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Originally Posted by Jhill001

Yeah, I'll acknowledge it's a freaking beautiful snake.

But intergrades and hybrids are just not my cup of tea and I know many people agree.

That, and this snake looks like this. Maybe 1 out of 1000 intergrade/hybrids end up looking that good. If the price was reasonable even a purist like me might consider it looks so cool hahaha.

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From what I've seen 1 in 10,000 maybe closer as I've not seen one anywhere near as pretty .

Price was a steal in my opinion I'd have happily paid 5 times the figure I actually paid .... £220 for a 12" worm about 3 years ago .
I still can't understand why the breeder eventually let it go , sure I pestered him over a period of about 6 months but he could have ignored me . I guess if he had the parents he'd be expecting another similar one to be popping up eventually ??


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Technically you wouldn't be producing a Hybrid by breeding two getula subspecies together. In a sense of genetics its kinda like a person from Europe breeding with a person from Asia. If that happens the children look different from each of the parents, but are still able to breed.

As for the offspring from your crossed clutch, you can certainly get rid of them to new owners; probably not for money. Just realize that whoever takes one of the animals then becomes responsible for never letting it react with the natural world, because as we know many new snake owners tend to release what they don't want into the wild. That is why it is best not to breed them.