My baby Burmese wont eat

i had him for over a week now and i tried to feed him 2 times last one today when i bring the mouse (hoppers/fuzzies) hes not intrested my boa he eat well but my burmse doesnt even flicker hes tounge when i bring him food
does anyone know the problem?
here is some pics

http://imgur.com/a/y2EmU

Could be anything to be honest ...

Best to put down details of the set up including -: feeding LIVE or thawed frozen , advise temps at warm and cooler end , heat mat / ceramic ? , regulated by a thermostat ? , where's the stat probe situated , what kind of thermometer are you using to take the temps ? , how and WHEN did you offer the hopper ..


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Also .... Many snakes take a week or two to simply settle down , best to leave them for a period before offering food and certainly don't handle until they've fed at least once or twice ...

Some will feed better in the evenings .. some prefer to have the mouse / rat warmed up and dangled in front of them some prefer to have the rat dropped on some card and left in overnight ...

So many options to consider ....

So many things


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My Burm doesnt like those bright lights and also his enclosure is only Glass in the front. You have a very tiny baby there so he is feeling vulnerable. All th glass to him is like being in the middle of a field without protection.
Cover the 3 sides woth insulation foam or carboard. That will give him security.. And Id change that heat bulb to a CHE so ther isnt LIGHT shining on him in order to heat him. For display purposes a Light is ok, then turn it back off when your done looking.
Make sure all your Heat is regulated with atleast dimmer/tstats.. To cool/to hot/ no Humidity= not feeding.
Try the feeding 5 days after you make the changes.. Give him some time to adjust and try the feeding after 8pm.
He is Gorgeous. When I got mine 20 years ago all they had were Albino or Normal... The color patterns today are amazing.
PS: this guy is going to grow kike a weed. Mine got 5' within the first year.. Think about PVC enclosures for the next purchase. He will need a 6' minimum, I have a 8' for mine.

lol you same cat that thought this burm was a corn snake when you bought it?

Kevin - you sure that's not a corn snake (just kidding! couldn't resist)

In all seriousness, make sure you check out this care sheet for taking care of your new snake:

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...rus-bivittatus)

I'm not familiar with the needs of Burmese, but most snakes when they're so young are food in the wild, so they like a lot of hiding spots and not open area. Also, don't try to feed him so often --- trying once per week is sufficient. If he's stressed and needs time to settle, attempting to feed too often will only compound the stress. Also, he may have been fed live mice/rats previously, so offering frozen/thawed (if that's what you're doing) may be foreign to him.

Any luck finding a girlfriend?

So you are feeding a fuzzy/hopper to a burmese?

That would ve one of your issue (there are probably more), due to the extreme small size of the feeder it's not recognized as a prey item.

Fuzzies are small colubrid food, hopper are starter food for BP and even they outgrow them very quickly.

Now would be a good time to catch up on the research that should have been done prior to your impulse buy.




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Hi Kevin,
I would definitely increase the size of food. You can double feed if you need to until you need to buy more mice. When your burm is fully grown, he will need a huge enclosure and large prey such as rabbits, chickens, etc. I left you a care sheet link on your previous thread. Good luck! :)

Also, what kind of vivarium does that boa constrictor have?

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My Burm doesnt like those bright lights and also his enclosure is only Glass in the front. You have a very tiny baby there so he is feeling vulnerable. All th glass to him is like being in the middle of a field without protection.
Cover the 3 sides woth insulation foam or carboard. That will give him security.. And Id change that heat bulb to a CHE so ther isnt LIGHT shining on him in order to heat him. For display purposes a Light is ok, then turn it back off when your done looking.
Make sure all your Heat is regulated with atleast dimmer/tstats.. To cool/to hot/ no Humidity= not feeding.
Try the feeding 5 days after you make the changes.. Give him some time to adjust and try the feeding after 8pm.
He is Gorgeous. When I got mine 20 years ago all they had were Albino or Normal... The color patterns today are amazing.
PS: this guy is going to grow kike a weed. Mine got 5' within the first year.. Think about PVC enclosures for the next purchase. He will need a 6' minimum, I have a 8' for mine.

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I made fixed the glass walls so he maybe feels a bit better it might not look 100% like Nature but its the best i could do atm and i got him another hiding spot.
Also what size mice do you recomend me feeding Pinkie? fuzzy? adult?

heres the terarium now http://imgur.com/a/y2EmU

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Also, what kind of vivarium does that boa constrictor have?

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here is to terarium/vivarium for my Boa its 80x40x40

http://imgur.com/a/gaDEK

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Kevin - you sure that's not a corn snake (just kidding! couldn't resist)

In all seriousness, make sure you check out this care sheet for taking care of your new snake:

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...rus-bivittatus)

I'm not familiar with the needs of Burmese, but most snakes when they're so young are food in the wild, so they like a lot of hiding spots and not open area. Also, don't try to feed him so often --- trying once per week is sufficient. If he's stressed and needs time to settle, attempting to feed too often will only compound the stress. Also, he may have been fed live mice/rats previously, so offering frozen/thawed (if that's what you're doing) may be foreign to him.

Any luck finding a girlfriend?

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Thx. Im try to ask a girl out im not an expert so will see how it goes, Im 19 and i have never even kissed a girl :hmm: .

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Originally Posted by BPGator

Kevin - you sure that's not a corn snake (just kidding! couldn't resist)

In all seriousness, make sure you check out this care sheet for taking care of your new snake:

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...rus-bivittatus)

I'm not familiar with the needs of Burmese, but most snakes when they're so young are food in the wild, so they like a lot of hiding spots and not open area. Also, don't try to feed him so often --- trying once per week is sufficient. If he's stressed and needs time to settle, attempting to feed too often will only compound the stress. Also, he may have been fed live mice/rats previously, so offering frozen/thawed (if that's what you're doing) may be foreign to him.

Any luck finding a girlfriend?

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Thx. Im try to ask a girl out im not an expert so will see how it goes, Im 19 and i have never even kissed a girl :hmm: .

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girls really like it when you're responsible and take really good care of your animals. learn more about how to care for your new Burm baby with this care sheet here: https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...us-bivittatus)

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here is to terarium/vivarium for my Boa its 80x40x40

http://imgur.com/a/gaDEK

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Hey Bro where are you located? I see the size of your enclosure listed as 80x40x40 but It cant be inches as its on a desk hahahha. I love my burm and it was 3 months when i got him.. But 3 feet verses 18 feet is another ball game. They can really hurt you and as they get bigger even though mine is very docile there are times he thinks he is the Boss and does not want to go back into his enclosure. Luckily he would rather back down from me and he has always been a wonderful calm snake.. But none the less he could kill my Dogs or even a child easily.
I don't know what your living situation is, but Life changes fast at 19 years old. You would be better off with a snake like your Boa who will never have the chance to be 15 feet +. Where you live and how you support yourself will effect this Beauty. Please think about that incase there is a chance you can trade him asap for a smaller Python (Ball/Children's/Blood Python) before you cant find a home for this Gentle Giant in the future. They suffer not us.

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Hey Bro where are you located? I see the size of your enclosure listed as 80x40x40 but It cant be inches as its on a desk hahahha. I love my burm and it was 3 months when i got him.. But 3 feet verses 18 feet is another ball game. They can really hurt you and as they get bigger even though mine is very docile there are times he thinks he is the Boss and does not want to go back into his enclosure. Luckily he would rather back down from me and he has always been a wonderful calm snake.. But none the less he could kill my Dogs or even a child easily.
I don't know what your living situation is, but Life changes fast at 19 years old. You would be better off with a snake like your Boa who will never have the chance to be 15 feet +. Where you live and how you support yourself will effect this Beauty. Please think about that incase there is a chance you can trade him asap for a smaller Python (Ball/Children's/Blood Python) before you cant find a home for this Gentle Giant in the future. They suffer not us.

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I live in sweden and we use metrix system and I will allways Priorotize my reptiles first.

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I live in sweden and we use metrix system and I will allways Priorotize my reptiles first.

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Lucky, you don't have common core math!

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80x40x40 roughly converts to 36x15x15, which is way to small for that boa...

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80x40x40 roughly converts to 36x15x15, which is way to small for that boa...

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he has lots of space atm it can fully stretch and move around when she gets older i will get a bigger but for now it works its a sonoran dwarf boa btw

Hey, I know the question wasn't directed towards me, but I would say that your snake could easily take small adult mice. Just my opinion based on the snake's size. Good luck!

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Thx. Im try to ask a girl out im not an expert so will see how it goes, Im 19 and i have never even kissed a girl :hmm: .

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Don't worry too much about that, you have plenty of time. Girls always like guys who care about their pets, and you obviously do. Good luck with your snakes and finding a girlfriend.

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i had him for over a week now and i tried to feed him 2 times last one today when i bring the mouse (hoppers/fuzzies) hes not intrested my boa he eat well but my burmse doesnt even flicker hes tounge when i bring him food
does anyone know the problem?
here is some pics

http://imgur.com/a/y2EmU

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That's not very much info. By looking at the cage, I would cover the sides to start with.

What are the temps on the cool side, warm side, and humidity?

What is the heat source? Are you using a t-stat?

Also ideally since the snake is a baby and new, you really should have 2 hides for him. One on the warm side and one on the cool side. As they get older and more comfortable, you can remove hides and eventually most when they get big don't even use hides like my boas but I still offer them to them as it does add floor space.

As for food, how long is the burm? A hopper might work if he is a very young baby. I start my baby boas on hoppers and upsize as needed. But more than likely, your snake will be able to eat a small adult mouse. My 11 month old boa eats adult mice every 7 days.

Without knowing all the info, there is no way anyone can answer your question. It might be too hot, too cold, too scared or sick.

Also why so much lighting? Don't need that big strip housing AND the dome. Just use one. Nothing wrong with lighting but you don't need to blast it full power in the cage lol.

And also, what was the breeder or whoever you got it from feeding it? How often? Live or F/T? Last time it ate? Most of the time a baby is going to be an eating machine as long as it's requirements are met.

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I live in sweden and we use metrix system and I will allways Priorotize my reptiles first.

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Ok, well if you have decided then i wish you the best with your new buddy.. I only speak because i want whats best for the snake and you. Coming home with what you thought was a corn snake and its one of the GIANT Snakes in the world is not only a diferent ball game but confuses me as you have a Boa and should have known just by the head shape it wasnt a corn.
Im glad he is not snippy, they sure can be sweet, and there Crazy stong and like to interact with people.
GOOD LUCK. Keep us updated. I'll love seeing pics of him. I remember mine that small. So cute.

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Thx. Im try to ask a girl out im not an expert so will see how it goes, Im 19 and i have never even kissed a girl :hmm: .

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When you find one that likes snakes, grab onto her and don't let her go!!

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When you find a girl that likes snakes, grab onto her and don't let her go!!

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Maybe start hanging out at reptile shows and stores !?

Just to increase your odds ..


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Maybe start hanging out at reptile shows and stores !?

Just to increase your odds ..


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x2! :D

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That's not very much info. By looking at the cage, I would cover the sides to start with.

What are the temps on the cool side, warm side, and humidity?

What is the heat source? Are you using a t-stat?

Also ideally since the snake is a baby and new, you really should have 2 hides for him. One on the warm side and one on the cool side. As they get older and more comfortable, you can remove hides and eventually most when they get big don't even use hides like my boas but I still offer them to them as it does add floor space.

As for food, how long is the burm? A hopper might work if he is a very young baby. I start my baby boas on hoppers and upsize as needed. But more than likely, your snake will be able to eat a small adult mouse. My 11 month old boa eats adult mice every 7 days.

Without knowing all the info, there is no way anyone can answer your question. It might be too hot, too cold, too scared or sick.

Also why so much lighting? Don't need that big strip housing AND the dome. Just use one. Nothing wrong with lighting but you don't need to blast it full power in the cage lol.

And also, what was the breeder or whoever you got it from feeding it? How often? Live or F/T? Last time it ate? Most of the time a baby is going to be an eating machine as long as it's requirements are met.

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I got 2 hides for him and i have covered the sides if you scroll down on the link pictures. But he wont use the hides i have never seen him go in , do you know why?

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I got 2 hides for him and i have covered the sides if you scroll down on the link pictures. But he wont use the hides i have never seen him go in , do you know why?

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My burms never used hides... Balls yes, they can hardly survive without them but neither of the Burms I had/have ever wanted them.
But they dont like the Heating lights i know that.

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Maybe start hanging out at reptile shows and stores !?

Just to increase your odds ..


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Thx but the only one close is like 80 km away and its out in the middle of nowhere its not of ppl haning out there:/ and i live in a small town away from the any bigger city.

How do you get Rodents to feed? Do you go into the City every week?

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I got 2 hides for him and i have covered the sides if you scroll down on the link pictures. But he wont use the hides i have never seen him go in , do you know why?

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Oddly , I've not had hides in with my Burm , Retic or Boas for ages as they simply didn't use them , they now have sheltered / quieter areas but they all seem confident enough to lie / sleep anywhere they wish .

All my 5 Royals each have two identical XL Exo Terra hides though..


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How do you get Rodents to feed? Do you go into the City every week?

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I go to this reptile shop its around 70km away and get a bunch of mice I have atm a 7 fuzzies 19 hoppers and 2 adult mice in the freezer ,I feed every 7 day.
I havn't been able to feed my burmese python yet btw hes/hers name is bacon and my boa never says no to a meal shes very nice never bites.
also do boas enjoy watching movies? i watcher a movie with her and she was starring at the screen and if i turned her she would turn and look at the screeen.

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I got 2 hides for him and i have covered the sides if you scroll down on the link pictures. But he wont use the hides i have never seen him go in , do you know why?

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. Kevin, listen the snake won't eat mainly bc it's stressed. He will need the appropriate husbandry and time to get over the recent traumatic events in his life. Proper husbandry includes what every member here has imparted to you then multiply that by time will eventually equal a feeding content reptile.

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Oddly , I've not had hides in with my Burm , Retic or Boas for ages as they simply didn't use them , they now have sheltered / quieter areas but they all seem confident enough to lie / sleep anywhere they wish .

All my 5 Royals each have two identical XL Exo Terra hides though..


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Zinc do u have a Pic of any of your Balls that use the XL hide? I have some XL's from RB that I dont use yet (16.5"x11.5) but Id love to your full grown Royals. ( royals in this case sounded more appropriate) :O

Hows this for some full grown Burms. lmbo.
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...shn2foric.jpeg

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I go to this reptile shop its around 70km away and get a bunch of mice I have atm a 7 fuzzies 19 hoppers and 2 adult mice in the freezer ,I feed every 7 day.
I havn't been able to feed my burmese python yet btw hes/hers name is bacon and my boa never says no to a meal shes very nice never bites.
also do boas enjoy watching movies? i watcher a movie with her and she was starring at the screen and if i turned her she would turn and look at the screeen.

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Some of your questions make me think this is all a joke.. If you have had the BOA as a pet why are you now asking if they like to watch movies? Hahahahaha. Man your killin me. Im sure like anything else they react to light ect...

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Could be anything to be honest ...

Best to put down details of the set up including -: feeding LIVE or thawed frozen , advise temps at warm and cooler end , heat mat / ceramic ? , regulated by a thermostat ? , where's the stat probe situated , what kind of thermometer are you using to take the temps ? , how and WHEN did you offer the hopper ..


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I got 1 warm end and 1 cool end i feed frozen becous live can hurt the snake and its illeagal to feed live in sweden.
I will go to a petshop tomorow and get some thermostats.

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Hows this for some full grown Burms. lmbo.
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...shn2foric.jpeg

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wow...that's HUGE! [emoji50][emoji50]
still beutiful btw [emoji7]


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Zinc do u have a Pic of any of your Balls that use the XL hide? I have some XL's from RB that I dont use yet (16.5"x11.5) but Id love to your full grown Royals. ( royals in this case sounded more appropriate) :O

Hows this for some full grown Burms. lmbo.
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...shn2foric.jpeg

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Wow. That snake is fat fat fat!! What a beast!!

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Wow. That snake is fat fat fat!! What a beast!!

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Thats what happens when you feed Piggies hahahhaha.

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Zinc do u have a Pic of any of your Balls that use the XL hide? I have some XL's from RB that I dont use yet (16.5"x11.5) but Id love to your full grown Royals. ( royals in this case sounded more appropriate) :O

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My pair of unrelated HC Albino Royals - synchronised feeding photoshoot - LoL
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So much for Royals being fussy feeders :)

If i would try to feed hima mouse and he wont eat can i freeze it again or does it go bad?

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If i would try to feed hima mouse and he wont eat can i freeze it again or does it go bad?

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I was told years ago to never reFreeze .

That said with 20 snakes I've always got one who's willing to have a extra snack - the boas , Burm and Retic never refuse anything .

I dont know if somthngs wrong with him he rarly flick hes tounge and somtimes when he do i only see the fork and he rarly moves around he staysd at one spot and stays there somtimes he switch sides

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I don't know if somethings wrong with him he rarely flick his tongue and sometimes when he do i only see the fork and he rarley moves around he staysd at one spot and stays there sometimes he switch sides

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That's okay. Usually they only flick their tongues when they are interested in smelling something. And Burms are not super active, it's probably good that he is just resting. He likely switches sides to thermoregulate.

Haven't got time to read all through the tread again but ... Yeah , maybe time to leave him alone for a week or so ...


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It's a baby burm. Generally baby snakes will not sit out in the open as millions of years of evolution has taught them that usually ends with them becoming food.

Like I said before, what are the temps? What is the humidity? Humidity plays more of an important role in babies as they dehydrate a lot faster than adults and as a general rule, a dehydrated snake is not going to eat as digestion takes a lot of liquid.

And how rarely is rarely for tongue flicking? I mean just sitting there they usually don't flick it that much. But now if you do any movement or anything in or around the cage, the snake should be alert as it's a baby and in an unfamiliar place.

Hate to say it but if the snake is just laying there all stretched out not flicking it tongue or seeming alert and not interested in food or responding to outside stimulus, I would get it to a vet as it sounds like it's on it's way out of this world.

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It's a baby burm. Generally baby snakes will not sit out in the open as millions of years of evolution has taught them that usually ends with them becoming food.

Like I said before, what are the temps? What is the humidity? Humidity plays more of an important role in babies as they dehydrate a lot faster than adults and as a general rule, a dehydrated snake is not going to eat as digestion takes a lot of liquid.

And how rarely is rarely for tongue flicking? I mean just sitting there they usually don't flick it that much. But now if you do any movement or anything in or around the cage, the snake should be alert as it's a baby and in an unfamiliar place.

Hate to say it but if the snake is just laying there all stretched out not flicking it tongue or seeming alert and not interested in food or responding to outside stimulus, I would get it to a vet as it sounds like it's on it's way out of this world.

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OP already says that he doesn't have access to a reptile vet. It just isn't an option for some keepers. Also, the snake might be outside because it is either hungry or too cold.

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OP already says that he doesn't have access to a reptile vet. It just isn't an option for some keepers. Also, the snake might be outside because it is either hungry or too cold.

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And again as I mentioned, we know nothing of the temps or humidity. And from my experience, when a snake is too cold, they tend to ball up and try to stay as warm as possible, not stretch out.

And as for hungry, not sure about your snakes but that's when all of mine are the most active.

And if a vet isn't an option for the OP, then a pet isn't an option either. What do you do if the snake gets sick? Let it sit there and die?

Sorry to be harsh but sometimes truth hurts and is harsh. My advice is surrender the animal to someone who can give it the care it needs and has the knowledge or has done the research BEFORE bringing said animal home. It's life is in your hands. If it dies, your life goes on but it's life doesn't. Anyways good luck.

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And again as I mentioned, we know nothing of the temps or humidity. And from my experience, when a snake is too cold, they tend to ball up and try to stay as warm as possible, not stretch out.

And as for hungry, not sure about your snakes but that's when all of mine are the most active.

And if a vet isn't an option for the OP, then a pet isn't an option either. What do you do if the snake gets sick? Let it sit there and die?

Sorry to be harsh but sometimes truth hurts and is harsh. My advice is surrender the animal to someone who can give it the care it needs and has the knowledge or has done the research BEFORE bringing said animal home. It's life is in your hands. If it dies, your life goes on but it's life doesn't. Anyways good luck.

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I thought OP said the snake was in a ball? I am very confused based on his posts. My snake is also active when he's hungry, I kind of meant he wouldn't be hiding. Also, I agree that people should take care of their pets entirely. But honestly, most vets can't tell a sick snake from a healthy one. Sorry, but very few vets I can find are really trained in herps well enough to identify underlying causes of such behavior. Sad but true. I'm being somewhat of a devil's advocate, but by your definition, no one in this part of Egypt should be able to own a pet. No vets=no veterinary care. Just saying it for the sake of the argument I suppose. Here in the UK, US, Canada, etc., many people have the luxury of being able to have access to and afford a vet. Not always the same way in other parts of the world. (No offense to anyone living anywhere else, I'm only hoping to provide an example.) Just another perspective, and I hope I don't offend anyone. :)

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And again as I mentioned, we know nothing of the temps or humidity. And from my experience, when a snake is too cold, they tend to ball up and try to stay as warm as possible, not stretch out.

And as for hungry, not sure about your snakes but that's when all of mine are the most active.

And if a vet isn't an option for the OP, then a pet isn't an option either. What do you do if the snake gets sick? Let it sit there and die?

Sorry to be harsh but sometimes truth hurts and is harsh. My advice is surrender the animal to someone who can give it the care it needs and has the knowledge or has done the research BEFORE bringing said animal home. It's life is in your hands. If it dies, your life goes on but it's life doesn't. Anyways good luck.

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I Dont know whats going on anymore. Not one Thread or Post has made sense.. Ive heard all kinds of strange things about wanting a Girl Friend to a Boa wanting to watch movies. I love Burms and I dont care how much someone says they want to give something a good home if your not knowledgeable and your a kid and have no money and you don't know what next year brings you dont buy a snake that grows to 15' easy. Also if you own a Boa you dont think a Python is a CORN Snake. Im done with some of these crazy threads because there insane. What a shame, these beautiful animals have no say in how they live!

Well, I don't think the OP's first language is English, so let's try and cut him some slack.