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Best source for a GTP?

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  • 02-03-2017, 10:39 AM
    LittleTreeGuy
    Best source for a GTP?
    I'm still exploring the idea of getting a GTP... Just wanted to ask those in the know where is the best place to get one? I see them on Fauna, kingsnake, the larger store sites, etc... The expo in my area never has them. Just wondering if anyone here ever breeds them by chance or has any recommendations on a good, reliable, trustworthy source/breeder/store for them?

    Thanks,
    Jason
  • 02-03-2017, 10:42 AM
    Neal
    Avoid expos as those are generally common ones like Biak. Do you have a price range you're looking for? Also what locality do you want, or what do you prefer the adult has a chance to look like?

    I would avoid kingsnake, but I may be able to point you in the direction once I know you're price range and such.
  • 02-03-2017, 01:42 PM
    Sauzo
    Southern Chondros, TK Chondros, Harlin Wall, Ryan Burke are the ones that I can think of off the top of my head. I too was thinking of a GTP awhile back as well lol. If it's your first GTP, I was told by a lot of people that you should go for a CBB. You pay more but with a GTP, you want as much of the deck stacked in your favor to start with on your first one. If you buy a farmed one like from Bushmaster, factor in a vet bill and a round of parasite/dewormer in with the price and know a good vet lol.
  • 02-03-2017, 02:26 PM
    LittleTreeGuy
    Re: Best source for a GTP?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Neal View Post
    Avoid expos as those are generally common ones like Biak. Do you have a price range you're looking for? Also what locality do you want, or what do you prefer the adult has a chance to look like?

    I would avoid kingsnake, but I may be able to point you in the direction once I know you're price range and such.


    I like the Merauke and Biak's. I just like the lighter, bright neat looking greens. I like the Green and yellow look of the Biaks. As much as they change color, it's going to be hard to pick... lol.

    As far as budget... I can't afford to spend 1k on a pet snake... A local box pet store recently had a nice Biak that I liked for 299. Is that a decent price?
  • 02-03-2017, 04:59 PM
    redshepherd
    If you're on facebook, join the group called "Green Tree Pythons~ Buy, Sell, Trade" or something like that. It's active and there are a bunch of reliable breeders there.

    Jayson Rafter, Harlin Wall, and Ian Bessell are good people and breeders!

    I'd buy a USCBB animal, just to play it safe.
  • 02-03-2017, 05:09 PM
    redshepherd
    Re: Best source for a GTP?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LittleTreeGuy View Post
    As far as budget... I can't afford to spend 1k on a pet snake... A local box pet store recently had a nice Biak that I liked for 299. Is that a decent price?

    It's a good price for a neonate that is USCBB with a pedigree. It's not a very good price for a GTP from a pet store, which are basically wild caught.

    Here's something to read through, if you haven't found it already! http://moreliaviridis.yuku.com/topic...s#.WJTxsvkrKUk

    You can find a load of awesome USCBB neonates for under $500, no worries.
  • 02-03-2017, 09:05 PM
    Regius_049
    Re: Best source for a GTP?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Neal View Post
    Do you have a price range you're looking for? Also what locality do you want, or what do you prefer the adult has a chance to look like?

    I would avoid kingsnake, but I may be able to point you in the direction once I know you're price range and such.

    Not trying to hijack the thread, but I have actually been looking into one of these also. I really just want a pet, not for breeding or anything. Ideally, I would like to get a female USCB with some blue or calico in it. I would like to keep it under $1000 if possible. Age doesn't matter.

    Something like:

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...1-12-19-06.jpg

    or

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...d%3D1485941096

    I have seen some like this on fauna, but I am not willing to spend $3500.
  • 02-03-2017, 09:13 PM
    redshepherd
    Re: Best source for a GTP?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Regius_049 View Post
    Not trying to hijack the thread, but I have actually been looking into one of these also. I really just want a pet, not for breeding or anything. Ideally, I would like to get a female USCB with some blue or calico in it. I would like to keep it under $1000 if possible. Age doesn't matter.

    Something like:

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...1-12-19-06.jpg

    or

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...d%3D1485941096

    I have seen some like this on fauna, but I am not willing to spend $3500.

    Unfortunately, you won't find ones like the first one for under $1000, not even close.. The second one is also unlikely, but you might find one similar if you look hard enough LOL.
  • 02-03-2017, 10:47 PM
    Sauzo
    Re: Best source for a GTP?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Regius_049 View Post
    Not trying to hijack the thread, but I have actually been looking into one of these also. I really just want a pet, not for breeding or anything. Ideally, I would like to get a female USCB with some blue or calico in it. I would like to keep it under $1000 if possible. Age doesn't matter.

    Something like:

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...1-12-19-06.jpg

    or

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...d%3D1485941096

    I have seen some like this on fauna, but I am not willing to spend $3500.

    Second on looks like a Manokwari/Sorong. Those don't come cheap especially USCBB. You can expect to drop $1000+ for one. And the calico, you can expect at least $1000+ as well. I would be surprised if you found either of those under that price. I was looking into getting either the Sorong/Manokwari or Jayapura/Cyclops Mountain type.

    The biggest thing that stopped me was the thought of dropping $1000 on a hatchling and then having it drop dead from me not being precise with the set up. Quick $1000 down the toilet. If you really want one, I would start on a cheaper one like a biak and 'learn' from that one. Once you 'master' the set up on them and stuff, then move up to the more expensive ones.

    Let me rephrase, I'd be surprised if you found a high blue one for under $1000. I'm sure you could probably find a lower grade one for cheaper. It's like the Pucallpa Peruvian BCC I'm planning to get from Vin Russo or Joel Diaz. They will be selling lower grade ones for $1000 and $600 respectively but the price will go up for better colors and patterns.
  • 02-03-2017, 11:10 PM
    Regius_049
    Re: Best source for a GTP?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by redshepherd View Post
    Unfortunately, you won't find ones like the first one for under $1000, not even close.. The second one is also unlikely, but you might find one similar if you look hard enough LOL.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sauzo View Post
    Second on looks like a Manokwari/Sorong. Those don't come cheap especially USCBB. You can expect to drop $1000+ for one. And the calico, you can expect at least $1000+ as well. I would be surprised if you found either of those under that price. I was looking into getting either the Sorong/Manokwari or Jayapura/Cyclops Mountain type.

    The biggest thing that stopped me was the thought of dropping $1000 on a hatchling and then having it drop dead from me not being precise with the set up. Quick $1000 down the toilet. If you really want one, I would start on a cheaper one like a biak and 'learn' from that one. Once you 'master' the set up on them and stuff, then move up to the more expensive ones.

    Let me rephrase, I'd be surprised if you found a high blue one for under $1000. I'm sure you could probably find a lower grade one for cheaper. It's like the Pucallpa Peruvian BCC I'm planning to get from Vin Russo or Joel Diaz. They will be selling lower grade ones for $1000 and $600 respectively but the price will go up for better colors and patterns.

    Thanks for the information, I appreciate it. Assuming the second image type is more readily available, what am I looking at price-wise to buy one and what breeders would be the best places to start looking?

    Any others besides Vin or Joel?
  • 02-03-2017, 11:38 PM
    redshepherd
    Re: Best source for a GTP?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Regius_049 View Post
    Thanks for the information, I appreciate it. Assuming the second image type is more readily available, what am I looking at price-wise to buy one and what breeders would be the best places to start looking?

    Any others besides Vin or Joel?

    Since you're just interested in looks and not locality, I'd just browse breeders with designer GTP and find a snake that you like. The one you posted has a lot of blue, and if genetic, the price is a lot higher. It just depends on how flexible you are with the blue look LOL. If you're okay with less blue, there are a ton out there to browse through.

    I'd join the Green Tree Python fb groups to look for breeder recs or snakes for sale.
  • 02-04-2017, 02:01 AM
    danielwilu2525
    Re: Best source for a GTP?
    God dang it, I always seem to adore the most expensive ones :P That calico is amazing though.
  • 02-04-2017, 02:08 AM
    Sauzo
    Re: Best source for a GTP?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Regius_049 View Post
    Thanks for the information, I appreciate it. Assuming the second image type is more readily available, what am I looking at price-wise to buy one and what breeders would be the best places to start looking?

    Any others besides Vin or Joel?

    Vin Russo and Joel Diaz don't work with GTPs. They are pure blood locality BCC as well as morph BCI. Was just using them as examples for BCC. For A GTP, I would talk to Ryan Burke at Clockwork Reptiles or Harlin Wall. Clockwork has some pure blue females. Also can ask Southern Chondros or TK Chondros if they have anything planned. I know Southern Chondros had a pure blue female they were breeding. Just be prepared for sticker shock :D There was also one other guy that did a lot of work with them but I cant remember his name lol. I kind of quit looking for one and went back to boas and got Caesar the retic so have gone back that direction.
  • 02-04-2017, 02:10 AM
    cchardwick
    Green tree pythons are really cool, I just love the colors. But I can't get past their aggressiveness and willingness to bite, I've never seen a tame one. And I hear they have one of the worst bites of all snakes having the longest teeth. Still a cool snake though!
  • 02-04-2017, 02:12 AM
    Sauzo
    Re: Best source for a GTP?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cchardwick View Post
    Green tree pythons are really cool, I just love the colors. But I can't get past their aggressiveness and willingness to bite, I've never seen a tame one. And I hear they have one of the worst bites of all snakes having the longest teeth. Still a cool snake though!

    I've actually seen some really tame ones but yeah for the most part, they do have the reputation of being biters. I was told if you plan to handle them, do it in the day. At night, they turn into monsters and will attack anything with a heat signature lol.
  • 02-04-2017, 03:01 AM
    redshepherd
    Re: Best source for a GTP?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cchardwick View Post
    Green tree pythons are really cool, I just love the colors. But I can't get past their aggressiveness and willingness to bite, I've never seen a tame one. And I hear they have one of the worst bites of all snakes having the longest teeth. Still a cool snake though!

    I think you're thinking of Emerald Tree Boas (the ones with the longest teeth LOL), and have a bad rep... But most of the bad rep is from wild caught/farm bred animals, so it's understandable. For both GTP and ETB, if you get USCBB, they're all generally pretty tame. Not in a "handle every other day" kind of way, but they're sweet display snakes. Much easier snakes than wild caught, in every way!

    But yeah even with CBB, 0/10 would not recommend handling once it's dark out LOL. Everything warm is food and they don't really snap out of it like balls do. :P
  • 02-04-2017, 05:25 AM
    Sauzo
    Sorry I stand corrected. Vin Russo is breeding GTPs. You can ask what he has coming up.
  • 02-26-2017, 02:29 AM
    cfdelval
    Re: Best source for a GTP?
    i was wondering if anyone knows where i can get a Sorong or Jaya Green Tree Python captive bred for sale.


    thanks
    Chris
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