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Large irian Jaya!

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  • 01-04-2017, 09:28 PM
    farmer1911 45ACP
    Large irian Jaya!
    Is it common for males irain jaya to be 7ft and about the thickness of a boa?
  • 01-04-2017, 10:21 PM
    EL-Ziggy
    Re: Large irian Jaya!
    That's not common for IJs at all. I think IJs average about 5-6 feet. Most carpets are pretty slender. Bredli are the only ones that would be close to a boa in girth.
  • 01-04-2017, 10:41 PM
    Sauzo
    I though IJs were on the smaller side for carpets. Coastals and Bredli get rather large.
  • 01-05-2017, 12:05 AM
    kxr
    My biggest male ball python is thicker then my 3 year old 75% IJ jag girl. She is quite a bit longer though at 6-7 feet long. Not sure how much influence the 25% coastal has on her length but she's not all that girthy at all
  • 01-05-2017, 12:08 AM
    farmer1911 45ACP
    Re: Large irian Jaya!
    I have never seen one like him, I'll get a picture of him posted tomorrow!
  • 01-22-2017, 11:30 PM
    lefty
    Re: Large irian Jaya!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by farmer1911 45ACP View Post
    I have never seen one like him, I'll get a picture of him posted tomorrow!

    Pics! Please!

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  • 01-23-2017, 03:25 AM
    Reinz
    Large irian Jaya!
    One of my Coastals, Lizzy is almost 8 ft and has the girth of my small male Boa, Butch.
    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...e3ce25c2dc.jpg
    Lizzy, bottom cage

    Bredlis generally don't get quite as long as Coastals overall, but can get get close. They do get more girthy than most other Carpets.

    Like Ziggy said, IJ's normally max out between 5-6 ft.

    Sounds like yours is a mix of IJ and or Coastal/Bredli.
  • 01-24-2017, 05:20 PM
    Ax01
    Re: Large irian Jaya!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by farmer1911 45ACP View Post
    I have never seen one like him, I'll get a picture of him posted tomorrow!

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lefty View Post
    Pics! Please!

    just twiddling thumbs, waiting for pix of the giant IJ.

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...btwiddling.gif
  • 01-25-2017, 11:39 PM
    lefty
    Re: Large irian Jaya!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ax01 View Post
    just twiddling thumbs, waiting for pix of the giant IJ.

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...btwiddling.gif

    Yep. From all indications its going to be a while.

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  • 01-26-2017, 12:31 AM
    Reinz
    My guess is that the OP posted this question on multiple forums and FB groups and forgot about this forum.
  • 01-26-2017, 02:12 PM
    Ax01
    Re: Large irian Jaya!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Reinz View Post
    My guess is that the OP posted this question on multiple forums and FB groups and forgot about this forum.

    my guess is that the OP has been busy farming. or shooting 1911 45ACP's. ;)

    or posting about farming and 1911 45ACP's on other forums. :P
  • 01-26-2017, 08:19 PM
    lefty
    Re: Large irian Jaya!
    My guess is that the pics dont exist.

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  • 02-07-2017, 08:21 PM
    farmer1911 45ACP
    Re: Large irian Jaya!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ax01 View Post
    my guess is that the OP has been busy farming. or shooting 1911 45ACP's. ;)

    or posting about farming and 1911 45ACP's on other forums. :P

    I wish i had the time to go shooting :( but i do post about guns and farming on other forums!:D
  • 02-07-2017, 08:29 PM
    farmer1911 45ACP
    Re: Large irian Jaya!
    Sorry to everyone and thanks for waiting I must confess i totally forgot I posted here i havent been really active on any forums this past month with getting back into spring!:P Here are some pics for reference the shotgun lighter is 15" long And yes i know he has stuck shed he is a terrible shedder the only way to remove shed is to put him into my homemade "Snake Suana " for aday
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...jxjaj.jpg.html
  • 02-07-2017, 08:33 PM
    farmer1911 45ACP
    Re: Large irian Jaya!
    Sorry had to learn how to post pics:D

    [IMG]https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...psrw7mvh1k.jpg[/IMG]

    [IMG]https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...psashjxjaj.jpg[/IMG]

    [IMG]https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ps2gztmh2s.jpg[/IMG]

    [IMG]https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...psdmrcdcjs.jpg[/IMG]

    So what do you guys think pure IJ? He was purchased as a pure proven male and to me atleast looks like he is.
  • 02-07-2017, 10:09 PM
    Gio
    Size of the IJ.

    I read this post from Gonesnakee on another forum.

    I'm posting it here for some insight.

    Some feel IJ's can and do get large.

    Males of certain species of carpet are larger than females in the wild because they participate in pre-mating combat.

    Read this thread.

    See what you think.

    http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/gener...parison-2.html
  • 02-07-2017, 10:44 PM
    mrhoyo
    Re: Large irian Jaya!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gio View Post
    Size of the IJ.

    I read this post from Gonesnakee on another forum.

    I'm posting it here for some insight.

    Some feel IJ's can and do get large.

    Males of certain species of carpet are larger than females in the wild because they participate in pre-mating combat.

    Read this thread.

    See what you think.

    http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/gener...parison-2.html

    Sounds like someone is feeding very regularly. I listened to a Morelia Python Radio show with Nick Mutton the other day and he was talking about bredli which are supposedly large members of the morelia family. He said something along the lines of snakes will grow according to how much they're fed i.e. if fed just enough they will maintain health, if fed more heavily they'll put the energy in to growth.

    I've only had two adult IJs and both have got to about 5.5 feet. My male is 9 years old.

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  • 02-07-2017, 11:01 PM
    Gio
    Re: Large irian Jaya!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mrhoyo View Post
    Sounds like someone is feeding very regularly. I listened to a Morelia Python Radio show with Nick Mutton the other day and he was talking about bredli which are supposedly large members of the morelia family. He said something along the lines of snakes will grow according to how much they're fed i.e. if fed just enough they will maintain health, if fed more heavily they'll put the energy in to growth.

    I've only had two adult IJs and both have got to about 5.5 feet. My male is 9 years old.

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    Correct.

    I think breeders will use a maintenance program for most of their snakes which makes sense.

    With boa constrictors, energy toward growth often happens when they are NOT eating. Usually during a period of seasonality. If they are stuffed their energy goes into digestion. You may have heard that on the same radio show when Vincent Russo appeared as a guest.

    There are many, many factors that relate to size. Captivity VS. wild comparisons are seldom parallel due to the variables for each situation.

    Individual snakes of any species can and do have exceptions on both the large and small ends of the spectrum.

    Prey size, and frequency most definitely have an influence however, genetics also come into play.

    I personally feel most snakes in captivity are overfed and under exercised.

    As far as the IJ's go, its hard to say with any certainty what the end size will be.

    The OP may just have a larger individual.
  • 02-08-2017, 05:44 AM
    Reinz
    He looks like a WELL fed IJ to me. Granite?
  • 02-08-2017, 01:20 PM
    farmer1911 45ACP
    Re: Large irian Jaya!
    Not sure i purchased him in a package deal as a proven Ij.
  • 02-08-2017, 03:19 PM
    mrhoyo
    Re: Large irian Jaya!
    If the snake is 7ft that's a huge container. What's it in?

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  • 02-08-2017, 06:34 PM
    Ax01
    Re: Large irian Jaya!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by farmer1911 45ACP View Post
    I have never seen one like him, I'll get a picture of him posted tomorrow!

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lefty View Post
    Pics! Please!

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ax01 View Post
    just twiddling thumbs, waiting for pix of the giant IJ.

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...btwiddling.gif

    ah ok, i can stop fiddling my thumbs now. hands at ease.

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...2_40e58289.jpg

    like Reinz said, it looks like a nice well fed snake.

    also post more complete, post-shed pix of him!
  • 02-08-2017, 09:18 PM
    Gio
    Re: Large irian Jaya!
    Another big IJ.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=big+...IHQ-CKOQlxlqM:

    They exist.

    O/P your snake is beautiful.
  • 02-08-2017, 09:33 PM
    farmer1911 45ACP
    Re: Large irian Jaya!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gio View Post
    Another big IJ.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=big+...IHQ-CKOQlxlqM:

    They exist.

    O/P your snake is beautiful.

    Thank you I measured him today and he is 7'6". I will get post shed pics soon just need to help him get it all off.
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