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Thick ruff stuck sheds?

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  • 01-02-2017, 02:07 AM
    Ballpythonguy92
    Thick ruff stuck sheds?
    Ok my 1 Leopard had shedding problems for the last 5 sheds and everytime it's super thick feeling unlike others and you can always see his patterns in the shed skin very Cleary and I also soak his tub when I see him in shed and it never comes off fully just in lots of bits and lots is always still stuck to him and I've used the shedding aid that's supposed to help that problem and has with other snakes and I've never had the shed problem again with them but my Leopard always has the worst problems next shed if it's the same I'll grab pics but I'm going to check my fb as I think I posted it their


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  • 01-02-2017, 02:13 AM
    Ballpythonguy92
    Re: Thick ruff stuck sheds?
    This is what usually happens but sometimes he has a bit more off but the bulk is mostly stuck
    http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2017...cb64fba9c1.jpg
    http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2017...401aea54df.jpg

    This is him after an about 35 minute soak and 20 mins in a wet pillow case that did nothing so I put him in a wet tub with some ruff rock like water dishes and basking rocks and within 15 mins he looked like this because the ruff surfaces helped alot in rubbing http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2017...5ea4be80e5.jpg

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  • 01-02-2017, 02:25 AM
    KMG
    The snakes humidity is obviously not high enough. If you have been trusting a gauge you may want to check its accuracy.

    As for the snake I would add moist moss to the hides and keep it damp for a week or two. Shedding problems are not created overnight and they are not fixed like that either.

    At the first signs of shed again make the moss moist and keep it that way until the shed is complete. Then you can allow the moss to dry out before making it damp again. That cycle should get you prefect sheds.
  • 01-02-2017, 02:27 AM
    cchardwick
    What kind of substrate do you use? Usually when I see the blue eyes I spray heavily and get the humidity up probably around 100% or so until they shed out. I use Reptichip substrate that holds the humidity well. If it dries out during a shed I get a similar problem. Usually I just spray down the substrate and get the humidity up and they finish their shed with no issues. I've only soaked my large Reticulated python a couple times, and usually I add Betadine Iodine to the water and get the water about 90-95F. For some reason he wouldn't shed out even after a few days at high humidity.
  • 01-02-2017, 02:34 AM
    Ballpythonguy92
    Re: Thick ruff stuck sheds?
    His humidity is fine and I don't use gauges and i even soak his tub when in shed till he is out and it never comes off fully and I've had him on wood chips aspen and paper towel hoping the wood chips would help but didn't and also he has a moist hide box only one of my snakes that needs it but he rarely goes in he rather squeeze on top of it till he is stuck up their and what I'm looking for is reasons why he is having these problems when all my others don't and my other main concern is why is it soo thick it's like as if you took 2 or 3 skins and put them together

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  • 01-02-2017, 02:43 AM
    KMG
    I would stop soaking and switch to moist moss. This makes each hide a humid hide and gives the snake all the humidity it will need. Don't give the snake a choice. Place moist moss in all the hides.

    I do this for my BP and I don't ever have to mist the cage.

    It sounds to me like the snake has not recovered from the bad sheds. Like I said, it doesn't happen overnight. I think it needs an extended period of good humidity and a few good shed to get on track.
  • 01-02-2017, 02:47 AM
    Ballpythonguy92
    Re: Thick ruff stuck sheds?
    He has the moist box all the time not just while in shed and why I do it with my others and it keeps them shedding fine just not this guy well not as much but if I don't add the water when he is in shed he won't shed at all

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  • 01-02-2017, 02:52 AM
    Ballpythonguy92
    Re: Thick ruff stuck sheds?
    I will try it how your doing it though because at this point I just want him to have normal healthy sheds

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  • 01-02-2017, 03:25 AM
    KMG
    Can't hurt to try.

    Giving one humid hide is good if the snake uses it. If they don't it is useless. That's why I just add moist moss to my hides already in use. Nice and easy. That way the snake is guaranteed to use it and soak up the humidity.
  • 01-02-2017, 03:29 AM
    Ballpythonguy92
    Re: Thick ruff stuck sheds?
    No no no it will hurt lol my pride nah I'm joking but yea most people are like one sided and don't care what you so only what they do and the way I care for my snakes is a combination of alot of a different things breeders said and put into one till it works for me

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  • 01-02-2017, 03:47 AM
    KMG
    I understand.

    I tried a humid hide many years ago but my snake never used it. I tried many other ideas and finally had the offer simple idea of just adding moist moss to the hides. That turned out to be a winner.
  • 01-02-2017, 05:26 AM
    Zincubus
    Thick ruff stuck sheds?
    Well I've had a quick read through these posts and there's a lot of great advice ... that said ..... Just one thing worth trying that works everytime for mine when needed is to soak a ROUGH textured towel in warm water ( just not cold ) then wrap it around the snake and let it continually 'slither' through the towel , when the head pops our cover it again and let it carry on slithering as long as you can ... THE important part though is to apply very GENTLE pressure on the snake . This method obviously works best after a soak but it works extremely well at any time for a snake with a stubborn shed.
  • 01-03-2017, 11:15 PM
    Ballpythonguy92
    Re: Thick ruff stuck sheds?
    Brand new problem I think he had something like a cyst pop on his head atleast that's what I think but theirs something that can just be some shed wrinkled up but he has a small bump on his head with a white center that looks like the shed I mentioned and when I touched it it clearly hurt him as he pulled away and shook his head back and fourth and why I know it's not shed is because I made sure last time he was stuck to start at the top and work my way down when peeling skin of slowly if I feel a tug I let go and don't try but I mainly only do the head due to eye caps and what not but I have never seen this and am a little worried

    http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2017...225db2e981.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2017...86cca3422d.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2017...879d3fe211.jpg

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  • 01-03-2017, 11:25 PM
    Ogre
    Re: Thick ruff stuck sheds?
    It looks like he rubbed it off... I'm not 100% certain by any means but it looks very similar like he had rubbed that spot too much. You can kind if see some stuck shed next to it.
  • 01-03-2017, 11:28 PM
    Ballpythonguy92
    Re: Thick ruff stuck sheds?
    He has nothing to really rub on he is in a rack and has a water dish and paper towel lol

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  • 01-04-2017, 12:19 AM
    KMG
    Looks like a peeled scale to me.
  • 01-04-2017, 12:21 AM
    Ballpythonguy92
    Re: Thick ruff stuck sheds?
    That's what it looks like and it bled a bit and why I'm worried I've never had this happen in the 5 years of keeping them well 5 years come april

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  • 01-04-2017, 03:40 AM
    BR8080
    Re: Thick ruff stuck sheds?
    I just happened to see this clip the other day while surfing youtube....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0BON9anGVE

    That is a THICK shed.
  • 01-04-2017, 03:51 AM
    Ballpythonguy92
    Re: Thick ruff stuck sheds?
    Yea i seen that video too but his is like that but not nearly as bad but it's always crunchy and thick and you will always see the pattern of the snake

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  • 01-04-2017, 12:04 PM
    GoingPostal
    Don't soak him unless he actually has a bad stuck shed on, soaking during the shed cycle is completely counterproductive and will lead to bad sheds. Were you soaking and using the shed aids from the start or only after he had issues? My ball pythons have a water bowl and that's it in their cages, I don't mist, I don't soak the substrate, no shedding aid or moist hides and they shed great. That it's so thick is odd though, like something else entirely is going on? How often is he shedding?
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