Banana bumblebee..

I've just been offered a cb16 banana bumblebee for what I think is an amazing price!

I'd just like to know is it worth getting it as the seller said he has a 'slight head wobble'.. does the head wobble actually affect the snake? Will it worsen when he gets older? Can he still breed when he's older?

I really like the look of him but if he has got a head wobble that will potentially get worse when he's older, I guess I'd have to leave him:(



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Head wobble doesn't gets worse with aging afaik and, unless a really bad one, doesn't affect the snake.

I have a spider leopard that spends a lot of time with his head upside down and is perfectly fine.

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Head wobble doesn't gets worse with aging afaik and, unless a really bad one, doesn't affect the snake.

I have a spider leopard that spends a lot of time with his head upside down and is perfectly fine.

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Oh okay, I got told it could possibly get worse, but if it won't then I might go ahead with the deal.

That would creep me out, just walking passed his tank with him watching me upside down😁

I'll have to think about it though, as I'm wanting to breed him when I get an adult female or wait until my phantom female gets to 2kg.


Do you guys think £100 is a good price for him? It was alot higher but he needs to sell asap.

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Yup, really really good price, I'd go for it.

If you have doubts have the seller send you a video of the snake. You'll be able to judge how much the wobble bothers you.

All spiders have some level of wobble, and still is one of the most common morph.

The wobble can get worse or better, there hasn't been any typical pattern anyone can seem to figure out. I wouldn't be worried about the wobble, multithousands of spiders with wobbles and they all do just fine. I notice all the stories of spiders with wobbles that are so bad they won't eat happen to be someone's cousin's friend who knows a guy that breeds...

I will say I have personally seen how stress plays a factor in the amount of wobble. Less stress leads to less wobble generally. So make sure your husbandry is on point and I'm sure he will do just fine for you. If you are dead set on wanting no chance of a bad wobble, spider or any of the wobble morphs are not for you. They all have a chance, despite how small it is.

What is a wobble??my Lucy kinda nods as she gets up to look at something she eats fine though just wondering if that may be what it is with her..this is a pic of herhttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...d562c63c67.jpg

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A wobble is a "issue" with some genes. Spiders are the most well known, their head will wobble time to time or even at constant. They sometimes even corkscrew a lot, one spider I saw at a expo continuously corkscrewed for the few minutes I looked at the breeders snakes. It can be subtly at times, I personally love the spider gene. You really see it when they feed, they can easily miss because of the wobble. Your lucy is probably fine, I've seen other snakes do it once in a long while. Though, do be wary as it is a showcase of http://www.petmd.com/reptile/conditi...n_body_disease

There is no evidence to suggest that the severity of the wobble is genetic, so it can't really be rooted out with selective breeding. There are some spiders that do have a more evident head wobble and others who just look to be fine.
To answer your questions
1. The head wobble does affect the snake to a neurological level, like all do, but does not cause any major issues, so you won't be having serious problems
2. There is no telling if it can get worse or better when it gets older and bigger, they have their moments and some do stay as they are and some may vary
3. He will certainly breed when he is up to weight and sexual maturity

I have a 2011 male Enhi-spider who has been father to other clutches before I bought it, and he is currently doing a perfect job eating, mating with my females and drinking. He has a "slight head wobble" as the banana bumblebee you want to buy.

I would go for it :gj:

ps:
100 english pounds for a triple combo ball python with banana, spider and pastel in it is really impressive, in europe (considering you're out of it because of the brexit) they cost much more, a single banana male can cost easily 200 euros.
Lucky you!

Just picked him up🙂

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Really cool!!

I've been watching him move around his cage and you can't really notice the wobble, his head just doesn't lie flat on the ground, it kinda tilts sideways.. it also seems he has a slight kink in his neck? Is this all apart of the spider gene?

It doesn't really bothered me to be honest, it's quite cute.


Now for a name......🤔

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Oh my gaaaaawwwd!! It is gorgeous!!
See? It is eating perfectly, I envy you! :O
Let's hope he continues doing well

Congrats! Looks awesome.

Spider wobble often is more of a corckscrewing of the neck while wondering around than a wobble.

Whoa! :O What a pickup. Grats.

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What is a wobble??my Lucy kinda nods as she gets up to look at something she eats fine though just wondering if that may be what it is with her..this is a pic of herhttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...d562c63c67.jpg

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Ok my spiders wobble wasn't bad but has gotten worse as he has gotten older and what I mainly see is him turn his head and neck upside down and turn left or right or even try to crawl upside down he has even struck rats like that and one time I started crying when I opened his cage as he was fully upside down belly up I went to grab him and as soon as I touched him he freaked out upside down trying to run away lol but this is an extreme case of wobble I've never seen one this bad before or after but he is fine in every other way and is one of my favorites and the favorite of everyone that comes over they always want to hold Gary or as some people call him gar-bears lol

OK I put him upside down to show how he just stays like that and tries to travel upside down it does make me sad at times just because of how bad it's gotten he also stayed like this until I turned him back over after the pictures or he probably would have stayed like that unlike most other ball pythons just turn over right away
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She also seems like she is curious about something she saw and looks like she might have pulled back and also they call it periscoping when they stand up like that and I believe it's not known why they do that but it's widely believed that their either stretching or trying to get up higher to look around and I have had some babies stand half or more then half way up but never seen an adult get that high

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Aww that is sad,it would probably scared the bejeezus out of me..mine will stand a few inches off the ground to check something out and she looks like shes waving..hopefully it wont get any worse,i was just worried because she's taken 2 meals mid section and had a kinda difficult time getting them down (shes 103g on fuzzy mice every 4-5days)

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It is sad but I knew spiders had problems some more then others I just happened to get one that happened to get worse why I have no idea or if it's even bad and that's what always worries me his babies were all fine and the 5 months I had them as I wanted to see them after some sheds because they were possible blades aswell but only 1 turned out blade spider like the dad but they arnt as bad as him and from my friends that they went to apparently it hasn't gotten worse I had to ask when mine scared me be laying upside down

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