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Baytril use help?
I have a ball python with respiratory infection. I don't know her weight but I am getting a scale tomorrow and will be able to weight her then.
My question: The link below, is that the correct baytril I will have to purchase? If not, where do I get the correct baytril?
https://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail....Fcxahgod-VMB3Q
I went to my local reptile vet and he gave me this outrageous bill with a large amount of medication. It was a ton of different meds that led up to be over $800. I denied the meds because I thought it was ridiculous. I looked up what others think and apparently baytril is a popular antibacterial medicine used on snakes with RI.
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Not all antibiotics are equal and they are not prescribed based on popularity but based on the type of RI you are dealing with can only be determine by a culture.
No one here is a vet, no one has examined your animal and recommending a specific anti-biotic or it's dosage could be considered a dangerous advice so do yourself a favor find a good vet get a culture and the proper antibiotic.
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Everything that Deborah put forth! Most vets will work with a customer/ patient on costs. Did you inquire about a payment option or plan that would be affordable? Also there are pet insurance programs that help defray vet and medication costs. My vet works with both. If the vet prescribed multiple medications then only getting part of the prescription is a recipe for resistant strains of bacteria. Good luck with everything.
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Re: Baytril use help?
Thank you both for your help. Unfortunately, I am not able to afford it even with a payment plan. I do not have a steady job nor do I have the funds. I have been thinking about rehoming her to someone who can afford the cost of her care. Sadly, it seems like that is what I am going to have to do ;-; Thank you for the imputs.
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I'd find a new exotics vet and have a culture done first. I wouldn't recommend baytril at all in a reptile unless the vet knew EXACTLY what he was doing and Baytril can cause some NASTY burns. Fortaz and Amikacin (sp?) are much better options for treating RI but it cannot be determined without a culture first on which antibiotic to use.
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I'd be real interested in knowing where the OP is and what list of meds added up to $800.Last snake I had in for surgery, her post-op antibiotics for 30 days cost $30 for Baytril and $70 for Fortaz. The vet is in Fairfax County, VA which has some of the priciest commercial real-estate in the country, so it's not like they don't upcharge the heck out of everything.
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Originally Posted by bcr229
I'd be real interested in knowing where the OP is and what list of meds added up to $800.Last snake I had in for surgery, her post-op antibiotics for 30 days cost $30 for Baytril and $70 for Fortaz. The vet is in Fairfax County, VA which has some of the priciest commercial real-estate in the country, so it's not like they don't upcharge the heck out of everything.
Exam - 45
Culture & Sensitivity Aerobi - 85
Regulatory/ Medical waste fee - 6
Fecal Exam - 20
Worming Whipworms - 71
Amikacin 50 mg/ml 1020 (10 of this) - 275
Vitamin A/D 500,000/75,000 (5 of this) - 97.50
Vitamin B Complex Injectable (5 of this) - 97
Vitamin C 100ml (5 of this) - 97.50
Nekton-Rep 35gr 01/05 - 20
Plus tax adds up to $815.20
At the time, he only did the exam so I just payed for the examination and waste fee which came out to be $51.
And I live in South Florida
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That Amakacin (Baytril) entry looks insanely high, I wonder if it should have been $27.50 for the ten doses, which is in line with the $30 I paid for my snake.
The vitamin A/B/C/Nekton supplements aren't worth it, snakes get everything they need from whole prey.
The culture & sensitivity price is a steal, normally I pay a few hundred for that.
Why were both the cost for the fecal exam and wormer listed? Normally you have a fecal exam done, then you get wormer based on the results after a few days if anything shows up.
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Originally Posted by bcr229
That Amakacin (Baytril) entry looks insanely high, I wonder if it should have been $27.50 for the ten doses, which is in line with the $30 I paid for my snake.
The vitamin A/B/C/Nekton supplements aren't worth it, snakes get everything they need from whole prey.
The culture & sensitivity price is a steal, normally I pay a few hundred for that.
Why were both the cost for the fecal exam and wormer listed? Normally you have a fecal exam done, then you get wormer based on the results after a few days if anything shows up.
That's what he recommended. This was my first time bringing a snake to a vet.
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Originally Posted by bcr229
That Amakacin (Baytril) entry looks insanely high, I wonder if it should have been $27.50 for the ten doses, which is in line with the $30 I paid for my snake.
The vitamin A/B/C/Nekton supplements aren't worth it, snakes get everything they need from whole prey.
The culture & sensitivity price is a steal, normally I pay a few hundred for that.
Why were both the cost for the fecal exam and wormer listed? Normally you have a fecal exam done, then you get wormer based on the results after a few days if anything shows up.
Agreed
OP
Now because he prescribed medications does not mean you have to get them all of them, I too find some unnecessary, however you do need the anti-biotics but that does not mean you have to get them from your vet all you have to do is tell them to write the prescription and order from a online Pet Pharmacy (they will verify with your vet that you are buying what is prescribed)
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Originally Posted by Deborah
Agreed
OP
Now because he prescribed medications does not mean you have to get them all of them, I too find some unnecessary, however you do need the anti-biotics but that does not mean you have to get them from your vet all you have to do is tell them to write the prescription and order from a online Pet Pharmacy (they will verify with your vet that you are buying what is prescribed)
That makes me feel a lot better. I asked and he told me that I would need all of that so it makes me feel more comfortable knowing that a lot of that stuff isn't necessary. I have found another vet and will probably be making an appointment with them since they are more well-known as an exotic vet in my area. I appreciate all of your help.
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Originally Posted by Pterolykus
Exam - 45
Culture & Sensitivity Aerobi - 85
Regulatory/ Medical waste fee - 6
Fecal Exam - 20
Worming Whipworms - 71
Amikacin 50 mg/ml 1020 (10 of this) - 275
Vitamin A/D 500,000/75,000 (5 of this) - 97.50
Vitamin B Complex Injectable (5 of this) - 97
Vitamin C 100ml (5 of this) - 97.50
Nekton-Rep 35gr 01/05 - 20
Plus tax adds up to $815.20
At the time, he only did the exam so I just payed for the examination and waste fee which came out to be $51.
And I live in South Florida
. Most times vets will treat prophylactically with a broad spectrum antibiotic until the smear and culture results come back from the lab. Baytril is a different medication than Amakacin thus you would be getting the wrong medication by only purchasing Baytril. It seems like he ordered injectable vitamins for the snake which act more quickly and are more targeted. The Nekton-Rep is a powder supplement. The injectable vitamin therapies would certainly be more pricy than any powder or liquid application. I would definitely try to go with the pet insurances. You can shop around for a more affordable one. Good luck once again.
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Where would I look to find Amikacin? I've searched online pet pharmacies but none of them supply this.
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Kind of beating a dead horse here but don't play vet. I mean vets aren't cheap but they are worth their weight in gold. Good ones at least. Ask your local herp club what vet they use/recommend. You should be able to find a good one. I just had to take Allison my JCP into my vet for an emergency as she somehow ingested Provent-A-Mite and was not doing good. The vet fit her in on her lunch as she was booked for the whole day but it was an emergency. Luckily Allison pulled through and within a day, she was eating her mice again and took a huge poop. The vet was able to flush the toxin from her system, thank god. It was far from cheap but cant really put a price on our "kids" :)
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Originally Posted by Pterolykus
Where would I look to find Amikacin? I've searched online pet pharmacies but none of them supply this.
Amakacin is one of the newer aminoglyosides and is a prescription antibiotic. You honestly need to look to your exotic vet for the prescription. For the vet to prescribe Amakacin means you are dealing with a serious bacterial/ respiratory infection. Trust me, i have a background in veterinary medicine and it's really not worth it to skimp and substitute on meds. Reptiles get ill slowly and consequently heal slowly. They really require the proper medications and veterinary assistance from time to time. Any luck with the pet insurances? Most of them only require a minimum monthly payback option. :)
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Originally Posted by Albert Clark
Amakacin is one of the newer aminoglyosides and is a prescription antibiotic. You honestly need to look to your exotic vet for the prescription. For the vet to prescribe Amakacin means you are dealing with a serious bacterial/ respiratory infection. Trust me, i have a background in veterinary medicine and it's really not worth it to skimp and substitute on meds. Reptiles get ill slowly and consequently heal slowly. They really require the proper medications and veterinary assistance from time to time. Any luck with the pet insurances? Most of them only require a minimum monthly payback option. :)
Yes I know. I am getting a perscription written from my vet but I would like to find the actual medicine elsewhere because it is such a high price with my vet I want to try and find it at a cheaper more affordable price.
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Originally Posted by Pterolykus
Yes I know. I am getting a perscription written from my vet but I would like to find the actual medicine elsewhere because it is such a high price with my vet I want to try and find it at a cheaper more affordable price.
Wait, your vet is writing you a prescription for an antibiotic when he hasn't even seen the snake or done a culture? :O Sounds like those shady docs who used to write people prescriptions for pain killers online lol. Maybe its just your area but every time I've had to go to the vet, the medicine was usually the cheapest part. The visit, cultures and blood work were the expensive parts lol.
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Originally Posted by Pterolykus
Yes I know. I am getting a perscription written from my vet but I would like to find the actual medicine elsewhere because it is such a high price with my vet I want to try and find it at a cheaper more affordable price.
. The vet has the prerogative to rewrite the prescription in its generic form to make it more affordable to you. You need to ask him to do that and explain that costs are problematic for you. The pet health insurances cover these.
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