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  • 11-12-2016, 12:00 PM
    LightningPython
    Enclosures for your adults
    So, Skittles (my burm) is slowly starting to outgrow her viv now, and I soon need to start getting plans and money ready to either buy or build a new, bigger one for her to go in when she's grown up.

    Can I see your enclosures for your adult snakes? I dont mind what species or whatever(aslong as its one of the big guys), I'm just looking for designs right now.

    Cheers :)
  • 11-12-2016, 02:03 PM
    Reinz
    Enclosures for your adults
    My snakes aren't Giants by any means, but two of my Coastal Carpets have outgrown their 4 ft enclosures.

    I just moved them them into the bottom two Animal Plastics T-25s which are 72L x 30D x 18H. The 30 inch depth really caters to Giants. I would have preferred 24 in deep, but I bought these new, unassembled off of Craig's List.
    http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...63c7d01c16.jpg

    The bottom houses Lizzy, she is between 7.5-8 ft long

    The medium is Mack, he is between 6.5- 7 ft long.

    The top encl. is a used Boaphile for Punch, a 7 ft Boa.

    http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...00d9285bb9.jpg

    I really love the drop down doors on the Boaphile, it is an old used model I picked up. It is flimsy compared to the AP. The top is sagging badly. I have heard that the newer ones don't sag.

    The APs are heavy duty and thus much heavier than the unbelievable lightweight Boaphile. But not anywhere near as heavy as a comparable melamine encl. like the BoaMaster (not to be confused with Boaphile). I have a 4 ft melamine BM that is very heavy!
    In all fairness, BM does make plastic as well. Their Mel. Encl. go up to 10 ft long. I don't know about their largest plastic.
    http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...4070a61792.jpg
    Four ft BM melamine, it took two men and a little boy to place it up there!

    Boaphile does make an 8 ft encl. by joining two fours together. Plus, they are all ready fabricated, so no putting together when it arrives (Except maybe joining the two fours).

    While you do need to assemble the AP, they have a better selection of sizes.
    For you, you may prefer the 7 or 8 ft encl.

    There may be better ones out there, but the others I looked at turned me off by their websites lacking too much information and posed too many questions for me and had poor pictures. But that's just me, if a business has a poor website, I go elsewhere. However, the ones mentioned here could use improvement as well.

    I am so pleased with the AP, I ordered an arboreal encl. for my Jungle Carpet and another T-25 to replace the Boaphile for Punch.

    Happy hunting :)
  • 11-12-2016, 03:39 PM
    Gio
    Re: Enclosures for your adults
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Reinz View Post
    My snakes aren't Giants by any means, but two of my Coastal Carpets have outgrown their 4 ft enclosures.

    I just moved them them into the bottom two Animal Plastics T-25s which are 72L x 30D x 18H. The 30 inch depth really caters to Giants. I would have preferred 24 in deep, but I bought these new, unassembled off of Craig's List.
    http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...63c7d01c16.jpg

    The bottom houses Lizzy, she is between 7.5-8 ft long

    The medium is Mack, he is between 6.5- 7 ft long.

    The top encl. is a used Boaphile for Punch, a 7 ft Boa.

    http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...00d9285bb9.jpg

    I really love the drop down doors on the Boaphile, it is an old used model I picked up. It is flimsy compared to the AP. The top is sagging badly. I have heard that the newer ones don't sag.

    The APs are heavy duty and thus much heavier than the unbelievable lightweight Boaphile. But not anywhere near as heavy as a comparable melamine encl. like the BoaMaster (not to be confused with Boaphile). I have a 4 ft melamine BM that is very heavy!
    In all fairness, BM does make plastic as well. Their Mel. Encl. go up to 10 ft long. I don't know about their largest plastic.
    http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...4070a61792.jpg
    Four ft BM melamine, it took two men and a little boy to place it up there!

    Boaphile does make an 8 ft encl. by joining two fours together. Plus, they are all ready fabricated, so no putting together when it arrives (Except maybe joining the two fours).

    While you do need to assemble the AP, they have a better selection of sizes.
    For you, you may prefer the 7 or 8 ft encl.

    There may be better ones out there, but the others I looked at turned me off by their websites lacking too much information and posed too many questions for me and had poor pictures. But that's just me, if a business has a poor website, I go elsewhere. However, the ones mentioned here could use improvement as well.

    I am so pleased with the AP, I ordered an arboreal encl. for my Jungle Carpet and another T-25 to replace the Boaphile for Punch.

    Happy hunting :)

    Nice Craig's List grab.

    I was tempted to go AP for my next but shipping will kill me.

    I'm going with Monster Cages. Matt specializes in retics, so I'm confident the cage will be just right.

    His cages are preassembled and all I need to do is driver 2 hours to go get it and bring it home.

    The variety is endless and I like the look of these.
    https://www.facebook.com/85535070454...type=3&theater
  • 11-12-2016, 03:55 PM
    Reinz
    Re: Enclosures for your adults
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gio View Post
    Nice Craig's List grab.

    I was tempted to go AP for my next but shipping will kill me.

    I'm going with Monster Cages. Matt specializes in retics, so I'm confident the cage will be just right.

    His cages are preassembled and all I need to do is driver 2 hours to go get it and bring it home.

    The variety is endless and I like the look of these.
    https://www.facebook.com/85535070454...type=3&theater

    That is sweet that you only have to drive 2 hrs to pick up your new encl.

    My AP arboreal encl has to come by motor freight, not UPS/FedEx. Shipping scares a 200 dollar bill to death! I'm justifying it since this should be the Forever encl. for Esmarelda. Otherwise I would have looked elsewhere.
  • 11-12-2016, 07:24 PM
    LightningPython
    Re: Enclosures for your adults
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Reinz View Post
    My snakes aren't Giants by any means, but two of my Coastal Carpets have outgrown their 4 ft enclosures.

    I just moved them them into the bottom two Animal Plastics T-25s which are 72L x 30D x 18H. The 30 inch depth really caters to Giants. I would have preferred 24 in deep, but I bought these new, unassembled off of Craig's List.
    http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...63c7d01c16.jpg

    The bottom houses Lizzy, she is between 7.5-8 ft long

    The medium is Mack, he is between 6.5- 7 ft long.

    The top encl. is a used Boaphile for Punch, a 7 ft Boa.

    http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...00d9285bb9.jpg

    I really love the drop down doors on the Boaphile, it is an old used model I picked up. It is flimsy compared to the AP. The top is sagging badly. I have heard that the newer ones don't sag.

    The APs are heavy duty and thus much heavier than the unbelievable lightweight Boaphile. But not anywhere near as heavy as a comparable melamine encl. like the BoaMaster (not to be confused with Boaphile). I have a 4 ft melamine BM that is very heavy!
    In all fairness, BM does make plastic as well. Their Mel. Encl. go up to 10 ft long. I don't know about their largest plastic.
    http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...4070a61792.jpg
    Four ft BM melamine, it took two men and a little boy to place it up there!

    Boaphile does make an 8 ft encl. by joining two fours together. Plus, they are all ready fabricated, so no putting together when it arrives (Except maybe joining the two fours).

    While you do need to assemble the AP, they have a better selection of sizes.
    For you, you may prefer the 7 or 8 ft encl.

    There may be better ones out there, but the others I looked at turned me off by their websites lacking too much information and posed too many questions for me and had poor pictures. But that's just me, if a business has a poor website, I go elsewhere. However, the ones mentioned here could use improvement as well.

    I am so pleased with the AP, I ordered an arboreal encl. for my Jungle Carpet and another T-25 to replace the Boaphile for Punch.

    Happy hunting :)

    Love the look of those vivs. I like what you did with the lighting in them too
    I'll have to look into them, hopefully they can ship to the UK for a lowww cost(Fingers crossed)
  • 11-12-2016, 07:39 PM
    Sauzo
    Lucky sob Reinz!! I need all these people who sell this good stuff to move to Washington lol. I'm going to have to bite the bullet and order 3 of those T25s at $229 each for shipping from a freight company as they are oversized for Fed Ex. I can probably get a little better deal by having all 3 shipped at once but my god, even then with all the extras, i'm looking at around $2400 :(
  • 11-12-2016, 08:22 PM
    reptileexperts
    Re: Enclosures for your adults
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sauzo View Post
    Lucky sob Reinz!! I need all these people who sell this good stuff to move to Washington lol. I'm going to have to bite the bullet and order 3 of those T25s at $229 each for shipping from a freight company as they are oversized for Fed Ex. I can probably get a little better deal by having all 3 shipped at once but my god, even then with all the extras, i'm looking at around $2400 :(

    Welcome to giant caging cost.

    Retics are not cheap animals to upkeep. I house my females in vision 600. Wish I would've went the animal plastics route though as I love the t8s I use for my venomous.


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  • 11-12-2016, 09:03 PM
    Sauzo
    Re: Enclosures for your adults
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by reptileexperts View Post
    Welcome to giant caging cost.

    Retics are not cheap animals to upkeep. I house my females in vision 600. Wish I would've went the animal plastics route though as I love the t8s I use for my venomous.


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    Lol oh I know. I'm pretty sure I will need at least 2 T25s for my 2 boas. The only question is for my SD/D male retic. Kris said he should do fine for his whole life in a 4x2 but so far Caesar is a machine with the food. That little man eats every 4-7 days and has gone from about 3' when I got him to now 4' in about a month. The plus side though is he is super mellow except when he smells food lol. Here's him sitting up on his shelf at night after lights go off in the cages. He loves his shelf lol.
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...a150ed_z_d.jpg
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...026ffb_z_d.jpg
    And I think its time to upsize his food. This is him holding a weaned rat 3 days ago. He seems to like his picture taken lol.
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...e4cc16_z_d.jpg
  • 11-13-2016, 01:52 AM
    Reinz
    Re: Enclosures for your adults
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sauzo View Post
    Lucky sob Reinz!! I need all these people who sell this good stuff to move to Washington lol. I'm going to have to bite the bullet and order 3 of those T25s at $229 each for shipping from a freight company as they are oversized for Fed Ex. I can probably get a little better deal by having all 3 shipped at once but my god, even then with all the extras, i'm looking at around $2400 :(

    Well I did have to drive 2 hours one way to pick up the enclosures for $100 off per cage. But then I ordered two shelves with mega shipping costs, so that ate up my savings (Diesel fuel plus the shipping).

    If you can order two or all three cages together it will save you tremendously. That's why I went ahead and ordered a T-25 along with the A-25, NO extra shipping charges!!!:gj::cool:
  • 11-13-2016, 01:59 AM
    Reinz
    Enclosures for your adults
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LightningPython View Post
    Love the look of those vivs. I like what you did with the lighting in them too
    I'll have to look into them, hopefully they can ship to the UK for a lowww cost(Fingers crossed)

    Yeah, I bought LED lighting kits real cheap on eBay with all colors of the rainbow and installed myself. You can buy lighting installed by AP, but you have to pick just one color only. I use white for cleanups and photos, and red for checking in on the snakes without disturbing them. Thus I went with the hassle of doing the lighting myself.

    I sure hope that AP can ship to the U.K. for a good rate for you.

    http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...7545328706.jpg

    Litzy, Coastal Carpet checking out her skyhide.
  • 11-13-2016, 02:42 AM
    Sauzo
    Re: Enclosures for your adults
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Reinz View Post
    Well I did have to drive 2 hours one way to pick up the enclosures for $100 off per cage. But then I ordered two shelves with mega shipping costs, so that ate up my savings (Diesel fuel plus the shipping).

    If you can order two or all three cages together it will save you tremendously. That's why I went ahead and ordered a T-25 along with the A-25, NO extra shipping charges!!!:gj::cool:

    Lol I still think you scored on that. I mean did the guy charge you the shipping cost or just the cost of the cages? I mean so, $200 off both, even a diesel couldn't use that much fuel to drive there and back did it?

    And yeah, I think I'm going to ditch ordering the 3 more T10s and just order 2 of the T25s now and then the 3rd one later in the summer. I mean really the only snake that would see benefits now from a T25 would be Rosey. The retic and sunglow haven't reached the max or even close for their T10s and by doing it this way, I am tempted less to fill empty cages lol. Cause man, I want a male pied retic LOL. Bob clark has a pied tiger 100% het albino male for $1750 that I really like :D

    I think I got bit by the retic bug lol.
  • 11-13-2016, 04:54 AM
    Reinz
    Re: Enclosures for your adults
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sauzo View Post
    Lol I still think you scored on that. I mean did the guy charge you the shipping cost or just the cost of the cages? I mean so, $200 off both, even a diesel couldn't use that much fuel to drive there and back did it?

    And yeah, I think I'm going to ditch ordering the 3 more T10s and just order 2 of the T25s now and then the 3rd one later in the summer. I mean really the only snake that would see benefits now from a T25 would be Rosey. The retic and sunglow haven't reached the max or even close for their T10s and by doing it this way, I am tempted less to fill empty cages lol. Cause man, I want a male pied retic LOL. Bob clark has a pied tiger 100% het albino male for $1750 that I really like :D

    I think I got bit by the retic bug lol.

    I hear ya about filling empty cages! That's a bad disease for us snake addicts. :D

    A Tiger Pied sounds so awesome! I hope you can pull that off. :snake:
  • 11-13-2016, 06:13 AM
    Zincubus
    Re: Enclosures for your adults
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Reinz View Post
    I hear ya about filling empty cages! That's a bad disease for us snake addicts. :D

    A Tiger Pied sounds so awesome! I hope you can pull that off. :snake:

    That's so true about the dangers of 'empty' vivs !

    I've recently bought 3 bigger vivs and moved many of the snakes into bigger vivs BUT now I've got THREE small empty vivs which are crying out for hatchlings ....


    Next in line a baby TransPeco Ratsnake :)


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  • 11-13-2016, 06:25 AM
    Zincubus
    Enclosures for your adults
  • 11-13-2016, 03:31 PM
    Reinz
    Those are some nice looking snakes right there. :)
  • 11-13-2016, 07:18 PM
    Zincubus
    Re: Enclosures for your adults
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Reinz View Post
    Those are some nice looking snakes right there. :)

    Yep ... they're not often available in the Uk ...But I'm on a promise so fingers crossed .

    They are something a bit different in looks and temperament and diet from what I can gather ..
  • 11-13-2016, 07:54 PM
    LightningPython
    Those snakes do look pretty cool. Fingers crossed you get them!

    Once Skittles gets moved up im gonna have an empty 4ft viv free... What to put in that? Debating to get an ackie monitor or two, beardie, or another snake like a woma python or something.
  • 11-13-2016, 08:06 PM
    Zincubus
    Enclosures for your adults
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LightningPython View Post
    Those snakes do look pretty cool. Fingers crossed you get them!

    Once Skittles gets moved up im gonna have an empty 4ft viv free... What to put in that? Debating to get an ackie monitor or two, beardie, or another snake like a woma python or something.

    Woma pythons are fabulous snakes , I've had a couple over years , very inquisitive ( almost Retic like in fact ) , great feeding response as well . Beautiful lookers . Diet includes snakes and lizards as I recall ..


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