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  • 11-10-2016, 05:02 AM
    erebus45
    what does your snake cage look like?
    i thought i would start this thread in hopes of seeing everybodys cage setups.. decor,the cage itself etc. i love seeing all the different stuff people put into their cages and the snake itself is always awesome to see as well. thank you
  • 11-10-2016, 07:07 AM
    Sauzo
    I keep my cages pretty minimalist as I prefer the ease of cleaning and I also take my animals out a lot so they each are out a couple times a week or more. You need to hit up Gio for the fancy caging.
    Here's Vicky's cage and you can see her sitting on top of her hide after a rat.
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...a842d7_z_d.jpg
    And here is Caesar's cage. He's inside the cool hide shedding and digesting his rat.
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...1e7016_z_d.jpg
    And here's Dottie's cage. You can see her still trying to find her shelf from the T10 I stole from her lol. I have to order her another T10 soon.
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...5c9ba3_z_d.jpg
    And here's Rosey's cage. She isn't in it cause she is out curled up on the bed under pillows. She was throwing a hissy fit to come out lol. So now she is sleeping under the pillows lol.
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...b29764_z_d.jpg
    And here's Luna's cage. Yeah yeah glass tank but it works until I get her a T10 in a couple months.
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...1fd181_z_d.jpg
    And finally, Allison's cage. Yeah yeah again glass but again a couple months for a T10 for her too. You can kind of see her sleeping under her heater after the 2 giant mice lol.
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...0cce8f_z_d.jpg
  • 11-10-2016, 07:26 AM
    erebus45
    Re: what does your snake cage look like?
    awesome cages and snakes sauzo!! and yea i imagine dottie is pretty upset lol... also i love the pvc jungle jym you got in allisons cage i bet she loves it. their is nothing wrong with glass tanks as long as you know how to maintain temps IMO. thank you
  • 11-10-2016, 12:06 PM
    Mangiapane85
    what does your snake cage look like?
    All of mine live in simple setup tubs.

    http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...f55d2ad78a.jpg

    Except for Hulk, he's on display. Ordering a T8 for him in a couple of days.

    http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...9c27dc7539.jpg

    My rack arrives today, so I will be transferring all of the BPs to it by the end of the weekend once the temps and everything are good.

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  • 11-11-2016, 05:02 AM
    erebus45
    Re: what does your snake cage look like?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mangiapane85 View Post
    All of mine live in simple setup tubs.

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...f55d2ad78a.jpg

    Except for Hulk, he's on display. Ordering a T8 for him in a couple of days.

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...9c27dc7539.jpg

    My rack arrives today, so I will be transferring all of the BPs to it by the end of the weekend once the temps and everything are good.

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    awesome room... cant wait to see it when you get it finished
  • 11-11-2016, 09:39 AM
    Mangiapane85
    Re: what does your snake cage look like?
    I will definitely show the progression of it. :)


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  • 11-14-2016, 03:10 PM
    Nellasaur
    I was mucking about in Yigg's cage last night replacing his hides with new ones I bought, so I figured why not snap a couple of pics?

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ps1zl2q43x.jpg

    This is his cage with the heat lamp on for the ambient. It's getting close to time to put my humidity shields back in place, methinks.

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ps7xjxdfbq.jpg

    You can juuuust see the Vivarium Electronics medium hides I got for him this weekend. One on the left, under the hanging ivy-like plant, and one on the right with the right hand 'foot' of the tree resting over the entrance. I like to bury my hides at least partially in the substrate, even if they're opaque-- gives the setup a more naturalistic look, with I like. Yigg may not be a display snake, but that doesn't mean he can't have a display tank! :D
  • 11-14-2016, 03:27 PM
    dragonight1993
    I just got my new bp so the tank is still a working progress but this is what i have for now.
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...8681066300.jpg
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...8658479400.jpg
  • 11-14-2016, 05:16 PM
    Mangiapane85
    what does your snake cage look like?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dragonight1993 View Post
    I just got my new bp so the tank is still a working progress but this is what i have for now.
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...8681066300.jpg
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...8658479400.jpg

    That looks like a promising aquarium setup. But be prepared to have to accommodate for low humidity.

    EDIT I would also do away with the green carpet


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  • 11-14-2016, 05:29 PM
    Macropodus
    Re: what does your snake cage look like?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nellasaur View Post
    ... I like to bury my hides at least partially in the substrate...

    The problem with that is the snake cannot move it. Sounds crazy I know, but snakes actually can and do move hides a few inches across newspaper. When under the hide they inch up closer to the cool, or hot, end of it and it moves in that preferred direction.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dragonight1993 View Post
    I just got my new bp so the tank is still a working progress but this is what i have for now.
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...8681066300.jpg
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...8658479400.jpg

    Is there cling-wrap covering the screen? Have the sheds been in 1 piece?
  • 11-14-2016, 05:47 PM
    Nellasaur
    Re: what does your snake cage look like?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Macropodus View Post
    The problem with that is the snake cannot move it. Sounds crazy I know, but snakes actually can and do move hides a few inches across newspaper. When under the hide they inch up closer to the cool, or hot, end of it and it moves in that preferred direction.

    Believe me, having them partially buried in substrate doesn't stop Yigg from scooting them around. He can't push them across the tank or anything but he does fine when it comes to thermoregulation. So not actually a problem at all :gj:!
  • 11-14-2016, 05:51 PM
    Mangiapane85
    Re: what does your snake cage look like?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Macropodus View Post
    The problem with that is the snake cannot move it.

    A snake shouldn't HAVE to "move" it's hide. That's a little crazy to even say in my opinion.


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  • 11-14-2016, 08:17 PM
    dragonight1993
    Re: what does your snake cage look like?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mangiapane85 View Post
    That looks like a promising aquarium setup. But be prepared to have to accommodate for low humidity.
    EDIT I would also do away with the green carpet
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    I have a humidifier in my room and it keeps the room at the proper humidity and I'm planing to get rid of the eco carpet. :)

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Macropodus View Post
    Is there cling-wrap covering the screen? Have the sheds been in 1 piece?

    No l have a plexiglass for the top if i open the window but i have the humidifier that keeps my room at the proper humidity level I like a humid room anyway lol. :)
  • 11-14-2016, 08:39 PM
    dragonight1993
  • 11-14-2016, 09:26 PM
    Macropodus
    Re: what does your snake cage look like?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mangiapane85 View Post
    A snake shouldn't HAVE to "move" it's hide. That's a little crazy to even say in my opinion.


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    Hi there EatBread :-)

    Pls indicate in which part of my post I used the word "should"

    You can copy/paste it right here. :-)
  • 11-14-2016, 09:28 PM
    Mangiapane85
    Re: what does your snake cage look like?
    I know they "recommend" 50% for humidity. But I assure you. If you can get it to 65-70%, you'll never have an issue with sheds. That's just my opinion though. I'm a novice. Don't listen to me. Lol... it's not dangerous to the snake and from what I've seen, it just makes life easier.


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  • 11-15-2016, 09:09 AM
    Mangiapane85
    Re: what does your snake cage look like?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Macropodus View Post
    Hi there EatBread :-)

    Pls indicate in which part of my post I used the word "should"

    You can copy/paste it right here. :-)

    You never said they should. I never said you did. But you were definitely implying that snakes will do it because they prefer to or like to, and I just don't really agree with that.

    if you have the hides in the proper area across the temperature gradient, they won't have to risk their bodies by moving a heavy rock hide or whatever the case may be.


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  • 11-15-2016, 10:03 AM
    Neal
    I love how some of you take time to make the cages look very nice. I can't ever seem to do it, and when I try I'm always like blah it looks like crap so I usually end up doing away with it all.
  • 11-15-2016, 11:03 AM
    Gio
    My caging is part of the hobby for me. I enjoy the habitat as much as I enjoy the animals. I have a room that is dedicated to my snakes and personal relaxation.

    The cages have perches, backgrounds, plants, day and night lighting and some other treats.

    http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...a/IMG_2656.jpg

    http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...a/IMG_2638.jpg

    http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...a/DSC00734.jpg


    Everything is easily broken down for cleaning however I only have 4 snakes. Providing naturalistic setups becomes more work when you are keeping/breeding multiple animals. Spot cleaning is key for daily maintenance which keeps things fairly sterile until I do a major overhaul that includes high powered vacuuming wet sterilization, drying and resetting the cage back to its display quality.

    I set my collection limit at 4 animals. Snakes that I really wanted and was very interested in, then went from there with the caging.

    I usually catch all of the animals exhibiting behaviors that they wouldn't display if set up without the options I provide.

    http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...a/IMG_2646.jpg

    http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...a/IMG_2596.jpg
  • 11-15-2016, 11:19 AM
    Mangiapane85
    what does your snake cage look like?
    Radical Gio. Just, well... radical! :)

    Didn't you say the ambient lighting changes colors? Or has the option to?

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  • 11-15-2016, 11:33 AM
    Gio
    Re: what does your snake cage look like?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mangiapane85 View Post
    Radical Gio. Just, well... radical! :)

    Didn't you say the ambient lighting changes colors? Or has the option to?

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    No,

    I just have 2 separate lights. I turn off the day time lights, actually they are on timers, and provide a few hours of moon light before I black out the cages for overnight.

    There are folks here with LED systems that turn all sorts of colors which is a pretty nice feature.

    This is just a very simple, waterproof, inexpensive LED light that I use in all of my cages.

    http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...a/IMG_1068.jpg
  • 11-15-2016, 11:58 AM
    Macropodus
    Re: what does your snake cage look like?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mangiapane85 View Post
    You never said they should. I never said you did. But you were definitely implying that snakes will do it because they prefer to or like to, and I just don't really agree with that. if you have the hides in the proper area across the temperature gradient, they won't have to risk their bodies by moving a heavy rock hide or whatever the case may be.

    A prior post of yours reads, "A snake shouldn't HAVE to "move" it's hide. That's a little crazy to even say in my opinion." And I am, in fact, implying that snakes will "move" there hides because they prefer a temperature difference of 1 degree, or 2 degrees, or a 1/2 degree. You don't necessarily need to agree with that, nobody needs to, but it still holds true as fact. The proof is in the pudding, or, more accurately, in observation of >1 hide in an enclosure which allows for observation. It's not something easily discernible in racks, with 1 or even no hides, or in any closure with mulch for bedding.

    I had uploaded the photo below here on this forum ~2 weeks ago on another thread for another topic, but perhaps it serves a purpose here as well.

    .https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...psvwftskd2.jpg.

    The two hides you see above were placed there by me while the snake was in a tub a few feet away dining out. After the snake returns to his home (no eating in the living room!) and as the hours pass the hides will move from their original positions. The hide on the left is in the coolest corner of the tank. The one on the right is almost in the hottest spot. The hottest spot is actually >100 degrees @ 18" under the heat lamp (this is a 40 gallon tank = 36" x 18" x 18"). Years ago we had put hides there but never ever saw even 1 snake which preferred that high a temperature. The very far right of the photo, to the right of the hide, is a water dish. By keeping the water in the hottest spot we not only take up space that the snake wouldn't use anyway, but we also allow for the humidity to range from 60% on the hot side to 80% on the cool side (yes, the humidity is the lowest right next to the water and the highest farthest from the water, still not sure how that is but evaporation probably figures in). We couldn't get the humidity up to 80% when the water was placed in the center of the tank or in the cooler side of the tank. We like a humidity higher than what is usually recommended. The last incomplete shed I got was ~35 years ago, and I have never caused an RI (though I've adopted snakes that did have RI).

    Also, as you can see in the photo, those plastic hides weigh what, a 1/2 oz each? And so your statement "risk their bodies by moving a heavy rock hide" could never be.

    The 1st few times, or few dozen times, that a hide is moved it might go unnoticed. But after 40 years of snakes, different sizes of snakes, different species of snakes, all kept with >1 hide on newspaper, it begins to become obvious. The snake goes into a hide and its coiled body occupies perhaps ~2/3s or 3/4s of the hide. Does it lie in the center of the hide? Sometimes. But not usually. We know this because our snakes are pets. We handle regularly, which entails lifting hides off them. It's not something that the rackers feeding F/T are gonna take note of.

    Now, those hides in the photo are 12" x 9". Is the temperature uniform across the hide? No, it's not. In the last year I, like many humans, have been exposed to a temperature range of >100 degrees, literally. I've been out in July heat waves of >100 degrees and in February cold snaps of <0 degrees. Snakes? Tropical snakes? No. Never. Still with me Mangia Pane? (mia nonna always said that to me!) So, for me and other humans a difference of 5 or even 10 degrees ain't nothing, 'cause relative to what we are exposed to it's a drop in the bucket. For an equatorial reptile on the other hand, one that since dinosaurs have been pooping in puddles has never had a temperature range of 10 or 15 degrees, even 0.1 degree is noticeable. Still with me? Follow along now. So, the snakes coil up inside the hide and over the course of hours or even days they inadvertently push up against the more comfortable side, the side with the temperature that they feel most comfortable with. Snakes are hardly ever completely stationary for more than a few hours, they are nearly incessantly squirming (for lack of a better word) around. This can be indiscernible in racks, but pet hobbyists can more easily take note of this. (Ok almost done now.) When we use a substrate which allows for snakes to "slide" their hides a few inches in any direction we are providing a more comfortable environment for them and we are more cognizant of their precise temperature preferences. If the snake is always in the cool hide immobilized up against the side of the tank than we know the tank is too hot. Regardless of the temperature or what the "experts" say we know it's too hot 'cause the snake is communicating this to us via behavior. And vice versa, if the snake is always in the hot hide immobilized up against the side of the tank then we know we need to increase the temperature in the tank 'cause its too cold. Spero che capisci tutto :taz:
  • 11-15-2016, 12:48 PM
    Mangiapane85
    Re: what does your snake cage look like?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Macropodus View Post
    A prior post of yours reads, "A snake shouldn't HAVE to "move" it's hide. That's a little crazy to even say in my opinion." And I am, in fact, implying that snakes will "move" there hides because they prefer a temperature difference of 1 degree, or 2 degrees, or a 1/2 degree. You don't necessarily need to agree with that, nobody needs to, but it still holds true as fact. The proof is in the pudding, or, more accurately, in observation of >1 hide in an enclosure which allows for observation. It's not something easily discernible in racks, with 1 or even no hides, or in any closure with mulch for bedding.

    I had uploaded the photo below here on this forum ~2 weeks ago on another thread for another topic, but perhaps it serves a purpose here as well.

    .https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...psvwftskd2.jpg.

    The two hides you see above were placed there by me while the snake was in a tub a few feet away dining out. After the snake returns to his home (no eating in the living room!) and as the hours pass the hides will move from their original positions. The hide on the left is in the coolest corner of the tank. The one on the right is almost in the hottest spot. The hottest spot is actually >100 degrees @ 18" under the heat lamp (this is a 40 gallon tank = 36" x 18" x 18"). Years ago we had put hides there but never ever saw even 1 snake which preferred that high a temperature. The very far right of the photo, to the right of the hide, is a water dish. By keeping the water in the hottest spot we not only take up space that the snake wouldn't use anyway, but we also allow for the humidity to range from 60% on the hot side to 80% on the cool side (yes, the humidity is the lowest right next to the water and the highest farthest from the water, still not sure how that is but evaporation probably figures in). We couldn't get the humidity up to 80% when the water was placed in the center of the tank or in the cooler side of the tank. We like a humidity higher than what is usually recommended. The last incomplete shed I got was ~35 years ago, and I have never caused an RI (though I've adopted snakes that did have RI).

    Also, as you can see in the photo, those plastic hides weigh what, a 1/2 oz each? And so your statement "risk their bodies by moving a heavy rock hide" could never be.

    The 1st few times, or few dozen times, that a hide is moved it might go unnoticed. But after 40 years of snakes, different sizes of snakes, different species of snakes, all kept with >1 hide on newspaper, it begins to become obvious. The snake goes into a hide and its coiled body occupies perhaps ~2/3s or 3/4s of the hide. Does it lie in the center of the hide? Sometimes. But not usually. We know this because our snakes are pets. We handle regularly, which entails lifting hides off them. It's not something that the rackers feeding F/T are gonna take note of.

    Now, those hides in the photo are 12" x 9". Is the temperature uniform across the hide? No, it's not. In the last year I, like many humans, have been exposed to a temperature range of >100 degrees, literally. I've been out in July heat waves of >100 degrees and in February cold snaps of <0 degrees. Snakes? Tropical snakes? No. Never. Still with me Mangia Pane? (mia nonna always said that to me!) So, for me and other humans a difference of 5 or even 10 degrees ain't nothing, 'cause relative to what we are exposed to it's a drop in the bucket. For an equatorial reptile on the other hand, one that since dinosaurs have been pooping in puddles has never had a temperature range of 10 or 15 degrees, even 0.1 degree is noticeable. Still with me? Follow along now. So, the snakes coil up inside the hide and over the course of hours or even days they inadvertently push up against the more comfortable side, the side with the temperature that they feel most comfortable with. Snakes are hardly ever completely stationary for more than a few hours, they are nearly incessantly squirming (for lack of a better word) around. This can be indiscernible in racks, but pet hobbyists can more easily take note of this. (Ok almost done now.) When we use a substrate which allows for snakes to "slide" their hides a few inches in any direction we are providing a more comfortable environment for them and we are more cognizant of their precise temperature preferences. If the snake is always in the cool hide immobilized up against the side of the tank than we know the tank is too hot. Regardless of the temperature or what the "experts" say we know it's too hot 'cause the snake is communicating this to us via behavior. And vice versa, if the snake is always in the hot hide immobilized up against the side of the tank then we know we need to increase the temperature in the tank 'cause its too cold. Spero che capisci tutto :taz:

    Yes, I understand tutto... and I never said that snakes don't or won't move their hides, especially if it's a lightweight plastic one on newspaper (it's kind of inevitable in that case). I just merely said that they shouldn't have to or feel the "need" to if the temps are good.

    And 100 is too hot for a captive bred BP. Probably why it moves its hide away from the hotspot. If indeed you're referring to a BP. Just my .02 cents


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  • 11-15-2016, 01:59 PM
    Zincubus
    Re: what does your snake cage look like?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gio View Post
    My caging is part of the hobby for me. I enjoy the habitat as much as I enjoy the animals. I have a room that is dedicated to my snakes and personal relaxation.

    The cages have perches, backgrounds, plants, day and night lighting and some other treats.

    http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...a/IMG_2656.jpg

    http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...a/IMG_2638.jpg

    http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...a/DSC00734.jpg


    Everything is easily broken down for cleaning however I only have 4 snakes. Providing naturalistic setups becomes more work when you are keeping/breeding multiple animals. Spot cleaning is key for daily maintenance which keeps things fairly sterile until I do a major overhaul that includes high powered vacuuming wet sterilization, drying and resetting the cage back to its display quality.

    I set my collection limit at 4 animals. Snakes that I really wanted and was very interested in, then went from there with the caging.

    I usually catch all of the animals exhibiting behaviors that they wouldn't display if set up without the options I provide.

    http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...a/IMG_2646.jpg

    http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...a/IMG_2596.jpg



    Simply amazing setups . .. You should start your own business up !!!
  • 11-15-2016, 04:00 PM
    Nellasaur
    Macropodus, those sure are a lot of words to convince us you're right about something that's completely a matter of opinion (i.e., that it's a caging problem-- and that one is your word-- to use a mulch-type substrate). Did you need to patronize MangiaPane85 like that? Sheesh.
  • 11-15-2016, 04:11 PM
    redshepherd
    Here are my non-tub setups! I took the photos from inside the enclosure, because it feels nice to me LOL. I just realized after going through my photos that I hardly have any of the full setup from the outside.

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...2zso1_1280.jpg

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...2zso3_1280.jpg

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...2zso1_1280.jpg

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...2zso2_1280.jpg

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...2zso1_1280.jpg

    And an example of how I go about tub setups (not in rack). It was Cake's tub before I moved him to the exoterra pictured above!

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...svmeas_540.jpg
  • 11-15-2016, 07:45 PM
    Mangiapane85
    Re: what does your snake cage look like?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by redshepherd View Post
    Here are my non-tub setups! I took the photos from inside the enclosure, because it feels nice to me LOL. I just realized after going through my photos that I hardly have any of the full setup from the outside.

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...2zso1_1280.jpg

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...2zso3_1280.jpg

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...2zso1_1280.jpg

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...2zso2_1280.jpg

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...2zso1_1280.jpg

    And an example of how I go about tub setups (not in rack). It was Cake's tub before I moved him to the exoterra pictured above!

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...svmeas_540.jpg

    HAve I mentioned how much I love your photo skills?? My gosh. They are amazing. Beautiful setups too!.. what camera do you use?


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  • 11-15-2016, 08:01 PM
    redshepherd
    Re: what does your snake cage look like?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mangiapane85 View Post
    HAve I mentioned how much I love your photo skills?? My gosh. They are amazing. Beautiful setups too!.. what camera do you use?


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    Oh thanks! It's so sad, because these photos are just iphone photos. But for the usual portrait photos I take of my snakes, I switch between a Nikon D7000 and an old school Canon EOS 30D. I mostly use the Canon on my GTP.
  • 11-15-2016, 08:28 PM
    Mangiapane85
    Re: what does your snake cage look like?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by redshepherd View Post
    Oh thanks! It's so sad, because these photos are just iphone photos. But for the usual portrait photos I take of my snakes, I switch between a Nikon D7000 and an old school Canon EOS 30D. I mostly use the Canon on my GTP.

    Nice. All I have is my iPhone7 camera lol. Check out my new thread in BP pictures!


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  • 11-15-2016, 11:00 PM
    Coluber42
    This is the enclosure I designed for our BP. The temperature in our living room varies over the course of the year between humid and mid 80's in the summer, to dry and 55 in the winter during the day when no one's home. So the cage is designed to retain heat efficiently and to be easy to clean while offering an enriched and spacious environment. It's built around the dimensions of an under-bed storage bin cut down to a bit under 4", which makes the tray for the bottom. It also lets me use a UTH where it only has to heat through the bottom tray, not through the 1/2" PVC.
    The radiant heat panel is mounted under the "upstairs" shelf, so less heat is lost through the ceiling; and there is enough insulation plus air gap to keep that upper shelf in the mid-80's even with the RHP under it. Both upper levels are made with removable trays that hold substrate and hides, so they provide comfy places to hole up as well as climbing opportunities and thermal variation. There are sliding panels to cover or uncover the vent holes and control the humidity, and individually detachable quilt-type insulation panels all around it.

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...2014.11.27.jpg

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...12.27.05_1.jpg

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...2014.19.19.jpg

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...2013.05.44.jpg

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...2012.38.30.jpg

    All of these were taken in the middle of the day, when he's snoozing and not visible. :) Oh, another detail is that the white panel at the bottom with the arch cutout and the blue and green foam on top of it compensates for the gap made by the sliding doors and covers the crevasse where he could otherwise potentially hurt himself trying to squeeze his head down in the gap. The full spectrum lighting in there is mostly for the plants, and it's on a timer.

    He still does use all of the hides in there, even though some of them look more like hats on him these days, so they'll be phased out soon.
  • 11-15-2016, 11:41 PM
    Maddlesrain
    Re: what does your snake cage look like?
    Coluber42 I really like your design, would you happen to have a thread documenting how you made these? Very neat!!!


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  • 11-16-2016, 11:49 AM
    Coluber42
    Re: what does your snake cage look like?
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    Coluber42 I really like your design, would you happen to have a thread documenting how you made these? Very neat!!!


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    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...e-complicated)

    The short version is that I started with a plastic storage bin and cut it down to make the bottom tray. I measured that tray to determine the overall interior dimensions. I planned out the main exterior "box", the sliding doors, the little side ledges over the corners of the tray, and the sliding door track and then ordered the PVC and the acrylic doors pre-cut to size. When it arrived, it was just a matter of screwing and cementing it all together and sanding the edges. It's pure coincidence that it turned out to be exactly the same width as those two Ikea tables it's sitting on!

    I also ordered an additional 3/8" sheet of PVC for smaller parts and add-on's as needed (I do have a band saw and plenty of hand tools). That's what I made the front panels with the arch from, as well as the tray that sits above the RHP (I was hoping to find another plastic storage bin that would be the right size, but didn't find a suitable one, so I built my own tray). The structural PVC framework is easy to do and easy to cut with a chop saw, and sort of like playing with tinker toys but with toxic cement. There's a hole up top with a desk grommet in it for the cords for the light, the RHP, and the thermostat probe. There's another hole down on the side at the bottom for the cords for the UTH, the UTH's thermostat, and the thermometer probe. All that stuff can be just taped down very simply. The bottom of the bin/tray isn't flat and isn't totally square; it has raised and lowered areas, so I just positioned the probes under one of the raised areas where there's just the right amount of room for them. It also has sort of hand-holds cut out (covered by those side shelves) which provide a neat place for the UTH cord.
  • 11-16-2016, 12:19 PM
    kath_
    Redshepherd, you have gorgeous cages for equally gorgeous snakes! Your emerald tree boa is stunning! Vigil looks incredible too. I love dumerils and hope to have one of my own someday when I'm more experienced. Great job!
    MangiaPane, that room looks so pretty and wayyyyy more organized than mine. Props for keeping it looking great and keeping multiple snakes. My room has become a jungle just from keeping one. I'd love to see pics of the rack progression if you have any posted on another thread.

    I love seeing all these cool setups! Everyone has such fun and unique ways of going about it yet they all work.
  • 11-16-2016, 12:23 PM
    Maddlesrain
    Re: what does your snake cage look like?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Coluber42 View Post
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...e-complicated)

    The short version is that I started with a plastic storage bin and cut it down to make the bottom tray. I measured that tray to determine the overall interior dimensions. I planned out the main exterior "box", the sliding doors, the little side ledges over the corners of the tray, and the sliding door track and then ordered the PVC and the acrylic doors pre-cut to size. When it arrived, it was just a matter of screwing and cementing it all together and sanding the edges. It's pure coincidence that it turned out to be exactly the same width as those two Ikea tables it's sitting on!

    I also ordered an additional 3/8" sheet of PVC for smaller parts and add-on's as needed (I do have a band saw and plenty of hand tools). That's what I made the front panels with the arch from, as well as the tray that sits above the RHP (I was hoping to find another plastic storage bin that would be the right size, but didn't find a suitable one, so I built my own tray). The structural PVC framework is easy to do and easy to cut with a chop saw, and sort of like playing with tinker toys but with toxic cement. There's a hole up top with a desk grommet in it for the cords for the light, the RHP, and the thermostat probe. There's another hole down on the side at the bottom for the cords for the UTH, the UTH's thermostat, and the thermometer probe. All that stuff can be just taped down very simply. The bottom of the bin/tray isn't flat and isn't totally square; it has raised and lowered areas, so I just positioned the probes under one of the raised areas where there's just the right amount of room for them. It also has sort of hand-holds cut out (covered by those side shelves) which provide a neat place for the UTH cord.

    Thank you very much!! I might just end up attempting to build something similar in the future!! I have a little time before my baby grows, but I figure it's never too early to start getting build ideas for the next, and most likely, final enclosure he'll be living in. I really like everything you've done with this. It's straight forward and clean looking!


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  • 11-16-2016, 12:43 PM
    Mangiapane85
    Re: what does your snake cage look like?
    Quote:

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    MangiaPane, that room looks so pretty and wayyyyy more organized than mine. Props for keeping it looking great and keeping multiple snakes. My room has become a jungle just from keeping one. I'd love to see pics of the rack progression if you have any posted on another thread.

    I love seeing all these cool setups! Everyone has such fun and unique ways of going about it yet they all work.

    thank you. I call it the white room lol. Or the snake room. That works too :D

    As far as the rack, I just have the one starter rack, but it is stackable so I plan on getting one and eventually 2 more. I need to get a bigger rack first though because mine will all be outgrowing these tubs before I know it.

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  • 11-16-2016, 03:52 PM
    redshepherd
    Re: what does your snake cage look like?
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    Redshepherd, you have gorgeous cages for equally gorgeous snakes! Your emerald tree boa is stunning! Vigil looks incredible too. I love dumerils and hope to have one of my own someday when I'm more experienced. Great job!

    Thanks!! She is a green tree python, though I'm still needing an emerald. :D Honestly, dumeril's take less care and are more tolerant of fluctuating temperatures than ball pythons, and they don't require all the "cover/clutter" that balls need. They are easy. Mine is also a pig and easy to feed.
  • 12-02-2016, 04:48 PM
    Hlow87
    Re: what does your snake cage look like?
    Mines still a work in progress..getting there though..didnt see paying 20$ for background paper so i went and bought camo wrapping paper last night for $4 :) still want a few more plants but getting there! http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...53072ba417.jpg

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  • 12-03-2016, 09:38 AM
    Zincubus
    Re: what does your snake cage look like?
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    Mines still a work in progress..getting there though..didnt see paying 20$ for background paper so i went and bought camo wrapping paper last night for $4 :) still want a few more plants but getting there! http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...53072ba417.jpg

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    Lovely big viv and already looking good . Not keen on those weird log hides and none of my snakes like them either .

    One instant improvement would be to swap dark coloured substrate like orchid / reptile bark which will emphasise the colour of the white snake and any foliage .http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...6c54487e5e.jpg
  • 12-03-2016, 11:06 AM
    Mangiapane85
    Re: what does your snake cage look like?
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    Lovely big viv and already looking good . Not keen on those weird log hides and none of my snakes like them either .

    One instant improvement would be to swap dark coloured substrate like orchid / reptile bark which will emphasise the colour of the white snake and any foliage .http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...6c54487e5e.jpg

    Can you post some pics of your setups? I don't think I've ever seen them before


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  • 12-03-2016, 11:10 AM
    Hlow87
    Re: what does your snake cage look like?
    She actually loves her log hide..i havent found why & dont understand why so many people are against them,can you clarify that?if i had insight i might have a different opinon of them too.. but my enclosure came with a large one so thats why i bought a smaller one..she uses it way more than the rock hide and i even tried switching sides with them both and she still went to the log hide in the cooler side..and yes i plan on getting a darker substrate soon,again the stuff i have, i belive is aspen,came with the enclosure

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  • 12-03-2016, 11:13 AM
    Hlow87
    Re: what does your snake cage look like?
    http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...8ebba8b6f8.jpg
    Check out my camo wrapping paper background 😊 Lucy is currently chilling in her rock hide

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  • 12-03-2016, 11:20 AM
    Hlow87
    Re: what does your snake cage look like?
    http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...46e12d7e63.jpg

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  • 12-03-2016, 11:22 AM
    Hlow87
    Re: what does your snake cage look like?
    That was before i added the wrapping paper to it and i have a few more plants to add

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  • 12-03-2016, 11:24 AM
    iLikeSneks
    Re: what does your snake cage look like?
    Just finished making him this last weekend.

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  • 12-03-2016, 11:27 AM
    Zincubus
    Re: what does your snake cage look like?
    Quote:

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    She actually loves her log hide..i havent found why & dont understand why so many people are against them,can you clarify that?if i had insight i might have a different opinon of them too.. but my enclosure came with a large one so thats why i bought a smaller one..she uses it way more than the rock hide and i even tried switching sides with them both and she still went to the log hide in the cooler side..and yes i plan on getting a darker substrate soon,again the stuff i have, i belive is aspen,came with the enclosure

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    I think it's because some snakes like an enclosed hide whereas those log things are open ended .....


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  • 12-03-2016, 11:31 AM
    Hlow87
    Re: what does your snake cage look like?
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    I think it's because some snakes like an enclosed hide whereas those log things are open ended .....


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    Oh ok i guess that makes some sense!mine is pushed to the back of the enclosure,i felt that was the better place for it 😊

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  • 12-03-2016, 11:33 AM
    Mangiapane85
    Re: what does your snake cage look like?
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    She actually loves her log hide..i havent found why & dont understand why so many people are against them,can you clarify that?if i had insight i might have a different opinon of them too.. but my enclosure came with a large one so thats why i bought a smaller one..she uses it way more than the rock hide and i even tried switching sides with them both and she still went to the log hide in the cooler side..and yes i plan on getting a darker substrate soon,again the stuff i have, i belive is aspen,came with the enclosure

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    Those hides expose too much of a ball python to keep them feeling secure. The ideal hide for one is something that's closed off all around with only one way in and one way out. And one that is tight fitting for their body. I.e. A reptile basics hide, exoterra cave hide, etc. or if you want to stick w the log, you could seal off one end of it to help w security.

    But it's up to you as the owner to decide what you want. If everything is working and you like the way it looks, then you don't have to change anything.


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  • 12-03-2016, 11:34 AM
    Zincubus
    what does your snake cage look like?
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    Can you post some pics of your setups? I don't think I've ever seen them before


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    I think there are a few up here and there , should be a few shots in my other snake obsession thread .

    Give me a few weeks and I'll try and take a few updated ones . I tend to concentrate photographing the on the actual snakes :)
    I'm just doing lots of prep work on the snake room as I'm updating many of the set ups as a few were outgrowing their enclosures so I've got a few bigger vivs that need setting up and somehow getting them to fit in the limited space in the reptile room ..




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  • 12-03-2016, 11:38 AM
    Hlow87
    Re: what does your snake cage look like?
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    Those hides expose too much of a ball python to keep them feeling secure. The ideal hide for one is something that's closed off all around with only one way in and one way out. And one that is tight fitting for their body. I.e. A reptile basics hide, exoterra cave hide, etc. or if you want to stick w the log, you could seal off one end of it to help w security.

    But it's up to you as the owner to decide what you want. If everything is working and you like the way it looks, then you don't have to change anything.


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    Thanks! Yea hers is pushed to the back and covered,i recently moved a plant near the entrance too so she would feel i little more hidden but even my rock hide has a small opening in the back side of it,ive blocked it off with plants though

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  • 12-03-2016, 11:39 AM
    Hlow87
    Re: what does your snake cage look like?
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    I think there are a few up here and there , should be a few shots in my other snake obsession thread .

    Give me a few weeks and I'll try and take a few updated ones . I tend to concentrate photographing the on the actual snakes :)
    I'm just doing lots of prep work on the snake room as I'm updating many of the set ups as a few were outgrowing their enclosures so I've got a few bigger vivs that need setting up and somehow getting them to fit in the limited space in the reptile room ..




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    You have some gorgeous babies!!

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