Pairing to create...

Some albinos and het albinos het candies on the way. Candy pieds in the future...:)https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...age_608198.jpg

Oohh, I like candy!

Can't wait to see what you come up with Albert. :)

What is this pairing?

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Originally Posted by Reinz

Oohh, I like candy!

Can't wait to see what you come up with Albert. :)

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Thanks Reinz! Looking forward to the health and welfare over all else as usual.

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Originally Posted by Eric Alan

What is this pairing?

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. Thanks Eric! This female is a 2010 proven Albino and the male is a late 2014 virgin Candino poss het pied.

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Originally Posted by Albert Clark

This female is a 2010 proven Albino and the male is a late 2014 virgin Candino poss het pied.

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Proven _________? :confusd:

EDIT: You got your edit before my reply. Ha!

So how are you getting het anything out of this (besides possible poss het Pieds, of course)? You're going to end up with 100% Candinos and Albinos.

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Originally Posted by Eric Alan

So how are you getting het anything out of this (besides possible poss het Pieds, of course)? You're going to end up with 100% Candinos and Albinos.

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. Well, the morph market calculator is giving different results for this pairing.

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Originally Posted by Albert Clark

. Well, the morph market calculator is giving different results for this pairing.

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Candy and Albino are allelic. The calculator is wrong. ;)

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Originally Posted by Eric Alan

Candy and Albino are allelic. The calculator is wrong. ;)

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. Yep, i know they are allellic however I was under the impression that the calculator was updated.

[IMG]Ball Python Genetic Calculator Albino x 100% Het Albino 100% Het Candy Change Inputs Produces 2 possible offspring. More Data / % Traits #Traits Morph Name 1/2 50% Albino 50% Het Candy 3 Albino 50% Het Candy 1/2 50% 100% Het Albino 50% Het Candy 2[/IMG]

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Originally Posted by Albert Clark

. Yep, i know they are allellic however I was under the impression that the calculator was updated.

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Still isn't working for this pairing. It's still giving these results, which aren't correct:

• 50%: Albino 50% Candy
• 50%: 100% Albino 50% het Candy

Think about it this way. Your Albino will pass an Albino allele to every offspring, making them all essentially 100% het Albino. Your Candino will pass either an Albino allele or a Candy allele to every offspring. The offspring that get two Albino alleles will be visual Albinos. The offspring that get an Albino allele and a Candy allele will be visual Candinos. There are no other options.

A double het candy albino IS a candino. Since the traits are compatible with one another they produce an animal that looks like a cross between a candy and an albino, even though it isn't homozygous for either trait. It's like the albino type 1 complex in retics, with the purple albino to white phase albino breedings yielding all lavender babies. The analogous breeding with ball pythons would be a candy to albino breeding producing all candinos.

Which calculator?

It's one of those, technically correct, but kinda confusing ways to put an outcome. Simply put, each baby will have a 50/50 shot at being either an Albino or a Candino, and a statistically perfect clutch will be half and half.
I'll cross my fingers for mostly Candino babies!


Eric and Trisnake beat me to it!

Thanks for the clarifications guys.

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Originally Posted by Alicia

Which calculator?

It's one of those, technically correct, but kinda confusing ways to put an outcome. Simply put, each baby will have a 50/50 shot at being either an Albino or a Candino, and a statistically perfect clutch will be half and half.
I'll cross my fingers for mostly Candino babies!

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Thanks Alicia, it is the Morph Market calculator. Thought I captured the whole page when I copied and pasted it.

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Originally Posted by Albert Clark

Thanks Alicia, it is the Morph Market calculator. Thought I captured the whole page when I copied and pasted it.

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Ah, ok! I just went and looked at that one, which looks like it also recommends OWAL's site, then the World of Ball Pythons/Morph List one. Of all the crazy things, WoBP actually has it right :O

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Originally Posted by Albert Clark

[IMG]Ball Python Genetic Calculator Albino x 100% Het Albino 100% Het Candy Change Inputs Produces 2 possible offspring. More Data / % Traits #Traits Morph Name 1/2 50% Albino 50% Het Candy 3 Albino 50% Het Candy 1/2 50% 100% Het Albino 50% Het Candy 2[/IMG]

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But the male is a visual albino, not 100% het. Right?

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Originally Posted by Alicia

Ah, ok! I just went and looked at that one, which looks like it also recommends OWAL's site, then the World of Ball Pythons/Morph List one. Of all the crazy things, WoBP actually has it right :O

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In a round-about way, yes. You can't just select Candino as a morph in the Genetic Wizard though. You need to find it elsewhere first and then add it to the Wizard, which then splits it into its pieces before doing the calculation.

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Originally Posted by Alicia

Ah, ok! I just went and looked at that one, which looks like it also recommends OWAL's site, then the World of Ball Pythons/Morph List one. Of all the crazy things, WoBP actually has it right :O

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. Yep. I saw that yet it ( Morph Market ) still performs a calculation.

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Originally Posted by Mangiapane85

But the male is a visual albino, not 100% het. Right?

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Male is Candino p/hp. Female is albino.

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Originally Posted by Eric Alan

In a round-about way, yes. You can't just select Candino as a morph in the Genetic Wizard though. You need to find it elsewhere first and then add it to the Wizard, which then splits it into its pieces before doing the calculation.

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True, but you can use the Candino entry. "The use this snake as male or female" feature thingy. That was what I did rather than start at the Wizard.

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Originally Posted by Eric Alan

Proven _________? :confusd:

EDIT: You got your edit before my reply. Ha!

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Called her "proven" referring to her as a 2010 virgin who laid her first clutch in 2015. No slugs or infertile eggs. She laid 5 good eggs that were 100% double het albino pied
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Originally Posted by Albert Clark

Called her "proven" referring to her as a 2010 virgin who laid her first clutch in 2015. No slugs or infertile eggs. She laid 5 good eggs that were 100% double het albino pied
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That's not what I meant. Before the edit, the original post was missing the word "Albino". You got to the fix in the exact second I posted my reply. :gj: