Ovulation or no?

Hey guys, looked in on my 2012 pied female and saw this... Trying to get opinions on whether it's a ovy or not. I thought it was a little high up in the abdomen? Sorry for the blurry pics. :confusd: https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...ge_146170.jpeg

My guess would be no by how the lower part of her body doesn't appear as swollen or any tail suck. I know sometimes they look bigger irl or only have a few hours looking their biggest so there's no real way to say by that picture. I just went through something similar with one of my pied girls. Kept going back and forth if I was seeing her building or ovy but she's since gotten smaller and started her shed cycle so looks like eggs in about a month!

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Originally Posted by HannahLou

My guess would be no by how the lower part of her body doesn't appear as swollen or any tail suck. I know sometimes they look bigger irl or only have a few hours looking their biggest so there's no real way to say by that picture. I just went through something similar with one of my pied girls. Kept going back and forth if I was seeing her building or ovy but she's since gotten smaller and started her shed cycle so looks like eggs in about a month!

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Thanks HL, it does.look a bit high up is what I was thinking. But sure, building is more than likely what it is.

Update on the possible ovulation of my 2012 female pied. She was bred to a pastel pied male and a regular pied male.https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...age_976146.jpg

She does look thicker there

(Not to bring the thread off-topic, but I'm just curious, how many times have you paired her?)

That is really a tough call. I had to look back over pics of my females ovulating and I'm still not entirely sure. :confusd: I'd try to quietly glance in on her again tonight, see if the swelling and posturing become more distinct.

Can you see the skin between her scales? How's she positioning herself? Behavior when you look in on her? Still eating, or no?

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Originally Posted by Meerna

She does look thicker there

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Yeah, it's really quite a bit thicker and protuberant in comparison to the initial picture and look. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by redshepherd

(Not to bring the thread off-topic, but I'm just curious, how many times have you paired her?)

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Thanks red, not off topic at all. She has been paired off and on with the two male pieds over the past 3 and a half months. Numerous locks over that time frame.

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Originally Posted by Alicia

That is really a tough call. I had to look back over pics of my females ovulating and I'm still not entirely sure. :confusd: I'd try to quietly glance in on her again tonight, see if the swelling and posturing become more distinct.

Can you see the skin between her scales? How's she positioning herself? Behavior when you look in on her? Still eating, or no?

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Thank you Alicia. She is staying in the back of the tub on the belly heat. Refusing food over the past 4 feedings spaced at 2 week intervals. Can't really say I see skin in between the scales. Just looks larger today.

Well, it looks like this was a ovulation. Pied female gave me a nice clutch of 5 eggs yesterday and they all look nice and plump. Clutch weight was 130gms and all eggs candle well with vein structure. A couple of the eggs seemed to have small denting on the sides so I rushed them into the egg tub and then the incubator. Gonna go with the vermiculite under the light diffuser. Temps 87.0F with the humidity @ 99% for now. Pics to follow later today.

Here she is coiling the eggs so tightly I didn't realize she had already laid them.https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...ge_626671.jpeg

Weighed, candled, and successfully placed into egg tub and incubator. Phew! Glad this is done. :Dhttps://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...age_573860.jpg

That's so cool AL! I hope you have another beautiful clutch this year!

That's awesome Albert! Can't wait to see what you get!

Congrats on those eggs! I'm really looking forward to the results. :)

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Originally Posted by EL-Ziggy

That's so cool AL! I hope you have another beautiful clutch this year!

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Thanks EL! I really am happy and excited about this clutch bc of the dual sired possibilities from both pied males.

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Originally Posted by cletus

That's awesome Albert! Can't wait to see what you get!

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Tyvm Cletus! I am looking forward to the results as well. Pieds are so nice to produce and I will definitely hold back something for the future this time around. Lol.

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Originally Posted by Reinz

Congrats on those eggs! I'm really looking forward to the results. :)

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Thank you Reinz! Hoping for something special and unique here but I will be happy if I get a 100% hatch rate.

Congrats! Looking forward to pipper pictures :)

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Originally Posted by Alicia

Congrats! Looking forward to pipper pictures :)

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Thank you Alicia! As always, you are a positive motivating force. Hope I have something special to hold back. Already had to invest in another 31qt rack for my male adults.

Hope you had the odds you had on last years, They where some good lookers as well!

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Originally Posted by Eric00

Hope you had the odds you had on last years, They where some good lookers as well!

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. Thanks Eric, I'm hoping that the dual sired pairings will show up in this clutch. We'll see soon enough. Haha. :D

Awesome clutch to start off 2017!! Lets make 2017 pied crazy!! Good luck :gj:

Congrats Albert! I'll admit I couldn't tell that was an Ovy in the pictures. Great way to start the year.

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Originally Posted by danielwilu2525

Awesome clutch to start off 2017!! Lets make 2017 pied crazy!! Good luck :gj:

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Tyvm daniel, it is a nice start. C'mon let's do this in 2017. Thanks again.

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Originally Posted by rlditmars

Congrats Albert! I'll admit I couldn't tell that was an Ovy in the pictures. Great way to start the year.

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Gotcha rid! Thanks for weighing in. Pic in post #4 is more likely the ovy based on the dates though don't you think? Right, i agree a good way to start the year. Thanks again. ;)

Can't wait to see those beautiful Pied babies! Keep us updated and best of luck!

wohooo !! Awesome :)

Big congrats !

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Originally Posted by LCstarr

Can't wait to see those beautiful Pied babies! Keep us updated and best of luck!

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Thanks LC! Yep, this should be interesting.

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Originally Posted by zina10

wohooo !! Awesome :)

Big congrats !

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Thank you z! The parents hailed from Garrick Demeyer. The primary male (pastel pied) is a 2013 production of Adam Chandler. Real quality animals.

Off to a good start. Can't wait for my Pied girl to get to size. Next year. I'll just live vicariously through you till then.

Dave

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Originally Posted by AKA Dave

Off to a good start. Can't wait for my Pied girl to get to size. Next year. I'll just live vicariously through you till then.

Dave

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Thanks Dave! I hope to have these guys hatch out healthy and looking good. Sure, live vicariously through me then I can return the favor. Lol. Good luck with your projects.

Day 56 today and these eggs should be pipping any day now. Dual sired pastel pied x regular pied. Hoping to see a couple of pastel pieds for sure.. Pics to follow as soon as I detect a pip! Lol.

Looking good!!

Any updates??! I want to see those babies :) hoping for good results!

Good lcuk xx