Does companies on Morph market ship to Japan?

As the title says. Snakes in Japan are pretty expensive and the bps on morph markets are way cheaper. So my question is does any one ship to Japan. I understand that most of the companies are in the US and Canada thus the snake has to survive at least a 10hour flight if not longer. I was wondering if this was an option or are we limited to local shops and reptile shows.

Btw reptile shows prices aren't so bad but local reptile stores are crazy I've seen het orange dream go for 800 plus. I mean it's not even a visual. Reason I'm asking is my gf is looking to own a banana ball python and the price for that is around 10000 yen which is about 1k. Now at the show we went to a BEL went for 1k which I thought was reasonable. Sorry I'm new feel free to correct me if. Wrong but I'd imagine a BEL should be more expensive than a banana. My bad for the long post. Any help would be appreciated thanks

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Originally Posted by Dtotheot

As the title says. Snakes in Japan are pretty expensive and the bps on morph markets are way cheaper. So my question is does any one ship to Japan. I understand that most of the companies are in the US and Canada thus the snake has to survive at least a 10hour flight if not longer. I was wondering if this was an option or are we limited to local shops and reptile shows.

Btw reptile shows prices aren't so bad but local reptile stores are crazy I've seen het orange dream go for 800 plus. I mean it's not even a visual. Reason I'm asking is my gf is looking to own a banana ball python and the price for that is around 10000 yen which is about 1k. Now at the show we went to a BEL went for 1k which I thought was reasonable. Sorry I'm new feel free to correct me if. Wrong but I'd imagine a BEL should be more expensive than a banana. My bad for the long post. Any help would be appreciated thanks

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Bells around my area go for 250 -300 and banana males go for less but females go for more

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I would say your best bet to know for sure is to inquire to the specific seller. My guess would be that most are just us and Canada though considering international laws and live pet, across the ocean, shipping is just easier not to deal with

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The reason people don't ship to Japan is the wildlife export laws not the flight itself. If we here in the USA want a snake from Europe we have to go through a third party exporter who has all the licenses to transport live animals from one country to another. Every country has different export/import laws that you would have to contend with.

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Originally Posted by Dtotheot

As the title says. Snakes in Japan are pretty expensive and the bps on morph markets are way cheaper. So my question is does any one ship to Japan. I understand that most of the companies are in the US and Canada thus the snake has to survive at least a 10hour flight if not longer. I was wondering if this was an option or are we limited to local shops and reptile shows.

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You'd need to inquire to the specific sellers. Most are smaller individuals and as such do not have the capacity to ship internationally. There are several, though, that advertise on MorphMarket that do have this ability.

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Originally Posted by Dtotheot

Btw reptile shows prices aren't so bad but local reptile stores are crazy I've seen het orange dream go for 800 plus. I mean it's not even a visual.

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I suggest you do some more homework on ball python morphs so you don't get taken advantage of. The reason I am suggesting this is because there is no such thing as a "het Orange Dream" (in the industry standard terminology, that is). Orange Dream in an incomplete dominant morph, and as such it's either visually present in the animal, or it's not there at all - there's no "het" middle ground.

I'm not set up for export so when I want to ship outside the US I need to use a broker and the fees, permits, etc. usually cost around $1,000 or so. It's also been a few years since I've done it so it could cost more at this point. It would need to be a very good order to make it worth while.

Thanks for the response. As far as I've read it says that wild life has to go through the japanese animal quarantine service (AQS) and when I check there it says that snakes coming into Japan requires no quarantine checks. Which I thought was promising. But perhaps I'll go ahead and email companies I'm interested in buying from and see if they do. I figured maybe there's more to it than just that is what I was thinking. Like snakes getting sick on the way here or other paper work I'm not aware of.

BEL for 300 is insane wow so lucky!

Yea I should do research for the morphs but if that's what's only available in Japan I have to go with the Japanese prices since other options like shipping may not be available.

Also, on MorphMarket, there are icons designating which sellers have international shipping capacity. On the page here - http://www.morphmarket.com/stores?cat=reps - the ship icon under the seller's name indicates this. If it is gray, they do not. If it is black, they do. I'd still send the ones in black an email to confirm, of course. :gj:

There are many breeders who export however you will need to spend $1000 for shipping alone and, usually breeders will have a minimum order of $5000.

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I've seen het orange dream go for 800 plus. I mean it's not even a visual.

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No such a thing BTW, OD are co-dom.

Maybe you meant Het Orange Ghost?

Export shipments are logistically difficult and also expensive. The $1000+ prices quoted here are accurate, and just cover basic shipping, duties and permits, not the animal itself.

Even if you are just looking to move a pet animal for a relocation, the fees and expenses are the same. No easy or economical way around that.

Sorry yea that might be it. Is that an expensive morph?

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Originally Posted by Dtotheot

Sorry yea that might be it. Is that an expensive morph?

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No, het orange ghosts go for under $100 now. Even around $50 for hatchlings.

Thanks a lot for all the replies, u guys are awesome. So it seems like it gets very expensive and since im not planning to buy a whole bunch it wouldn't be worth it because of all the fees and shipping cost.

I wonder if it would be the same if I bought it from nearby Asian countries if they even have pets. Korea and Hong Kong are a lot closer than the us and Canada but even then Id be very wary of buying anything from other Asian countries. Sorry just ranting out loud.

こんにちは。
As I too live in Japan I was in your position as well about one year ago. Then I did my research and the result turned out fine.
Actually my first ball was a banana male I bought for roughly 400 dollars. And it really felt like a good deal here in Japan.

I would suggest you check out some reptile shop/ball python breeder blogs and ask around about the specific morph you are looking for. In my experience it takes a little more looking around in Japan, but you'll get there in the end.
As for the 'American import' issue, most ball pythons sold in Japan are still US imports. Many shops connect their orders follow a routine of purchasing in bulk. There are places that, for a handling fee, will let you take part in the bulk order.
Also, I don't know where in Japan you live, but quite a few reptile shows going on, ball python breeding is becoming more popular in Japan and I'm sure you'll find what you're looking for with a bit of effort ;)

cheers
Rob

PS: this being my first post after leeching off this forum's knowledge, please let me thank you guys for solving all my husbandry related issues without requiring me to even post a single line.

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Export shipments are logistically difficult and also expensive. The $1000+ prices quoted here are accurate, and just cover basic shipping, duties and permits, not the animal itself.

Even if you are just looking to move a pet animal for a relocation, the fees and expenses are the same. No easy or economical way around that.

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I'm not set up for export so when I want to ship outside the US I need to use a broker and the fees, permits, etc. usually cost around $1,000 or so. It's also been a few years since I've done it so it could cost more at this point. It would need to be a very good order to make it worth while.

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These guys have already said what I was going to. People in Canada had the same issue for years where the shipping was 2 or 3x's the cost of the animals. It's just not worth it to buy one or two snakes unless they have a heavy price tag with them. And the fact that its getting to be winter in the Northern hemisphere shipping is fixing to become hit and miss.