Fire x vanilla

Can you get a blue eyed Lucy from breeding a fire to a vanilla? Or a vanilla to a vanilla?

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No. A Fire Vanilla is a Vanilla Cream. A Super Vanilla is, well, a Super Vanilla.

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/wizard/

I know this but both the fire and vanilla are part of the black eyed Lucy complex. So is there thing you can breed to them to produce a lucy

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Originally Posted by Griz/Rosco B.Pythons

I know this but both the fire and vanilla are part of the black eyed Lucy complex. So is there thing you can breed to them to produce a lucy

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I dont believe Vanilla part of the BEL Complex. But im sure someone will correct me if im wrong.

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I know this but both the fire and vanilla are part of the black eyed Lucy complex. So is there thing you can breed to them to produce a lucy

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Fire x Fire gives you a white snake with black eyes.

Alright so I'm guessing I'm wrong about the vanilla then

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Alright so I'm guessing I'm wrong about the vanilla then

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It's in the Fire complex, but that doesn't mean that it produces a white snake when combined together. Just like all of the genes in the Yellow Belly complex don't produce white snakes when combined together.

EDIT: I know Ivories aren't technically a white snake, but the point is still the same.

Oh alright lol. Makes since

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Oh alright lol. Makes since

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Blue eyed Lucy's are from the BEL complex. BLACK eyed Leucistics are from the Fire complex... two different snakes.


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Fire to Sulfur is the closest thing to a Fire cross I know of that will create the Black eyed Leucistics.

But then again these 2 genes are basically the same.

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...res-vs-Sulfurs


From my understanding the yellow blotches can be reduced with pastel if that is what you are going for.

I think you're confusing the two bels. There's blue eyed lucys and black eyed lucys.

Fires are part of the black eyed group.

Mojave lesser and Russo are examples from the blue eyed group.

Both bel groups create all white snakes but black eyed lucies often have yellow spots. And crossing members of the two groups won't result in all white.

Fire to vanilla gives you vanilla creams and vanilla to vanilla gives you super vanillas. I believe if I remember correctly a vanilla cream will act as a super in that you will not produce normals.


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Originally Posted by Izzys Keeper

... I believe if I remember correctly a vanilla cream will act as a super in that you will not produce normals.


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That's correct , fire and vanilla are on the same locus. All offspring will be one or the other. An individual parent can not pass both of theses genes on to a single offspring.

This is my vanilla fire girl I've been really thinking what to pair with her

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Wish I had a super vanilla to show aswell but I don't and yes that's one of the reasons why I got her Is no normals come from the pairing

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