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  • 10-23-2016, 08:59 PM
    reptileexperts
    One final venomous addition
    On a note of wrapping up new snakes while moving things to the new reptile room, my wife is giving me the chance to work with one of the neatest species out there! The Indochinese Spitting cobra! We got him settled in the new room solo for now, and a quick pick with him getting him settled. More to come!

    Naja siamensis

    http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...146faad2b3.jpg

    http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...620dbe58b0.jpg
    In his trap box hide for secure moving and cleaning.

    Cheers


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  • 10-23-2016, 10:21 PM
    redshepherd
    That's just awesome! Out of curiosity, what kind or brand of enclosure are you using for him?
  • 10-23-2016, 10:22 PM
    piedlover79
    That is a beautiful animal. Glad you're wearing a face shield with him!
  • 10-23-2016, 10:39 PM
    Reinz
    He's gorgeous, on top of the COOL factor as well! :)
  • 10-24-2016, 08:34 AM
    reptileexperts
    Re: One final venomous addition
    Thanks all.

    Enclosure is a standard animal plastics T8 with sliding glass and keyed lock. The new room has its own cooling and heating system so no heat was put on this other than the lighting inside.

    Face shield is #1 personal protective equipment requirement for spitters. They are safe when you keep that in place. Eh well safer. The beauty of a spitter is they are generally more prone to spit and run than try and bite non stop like some monocled cobras which don't spit.

    He may be a cool snake, but remember hots are never part of a cool factor! It's all about admiration, respect, and following strict protocols!


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  • 10-24-2016, 08:36 AM
    Neal
    Great addition. I'm a bit jealous.

    Those spitting Naja's have an uncanny aim for eyes too.
  • 10-24-2016, 08:38 AM
    reptileexperts
    Re: One final venomous addition
    Some more than others! Siamensis does it pretty well, but the most accurate spitter in Naja is the samarensis! But even that's nothing compared to an adult Rhinkals! Thankfully captive specimens that are raised well spit very little


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  • 10-24-2016, 08:29 PM
    reptileexperts
    Re: One final venomous addition
    http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...be16f8b629.jpg

    A good look at his overall size in a 4 ft enclosure freshly misted after cleaning.

    https://vimeo.com/188752056
    A quick snippet from a video I sent to my brother today after I unlocked his trap box and he came out to enjoy the fresh rain and lack of feces.


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  • 10-25-2016, 08:13 PM
    reptileexperts
    Re: One final venomous addition
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    Cell phone hood shot from tonight training my wife how to handle and move him.


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  • 10-25-2016, 11:09 PM
    sneakysnake611
    Can you keep venomous snakes in a rack system?

    Nice snaken i wouldnt trust myselfn id probably sneeze and get bit that split second my eyes are closed.

    Is "hots" an acronym?

    Great lookin snake. Power to ya
  • 10-26-2016, 09:32 AM
    reptileexperts
    Re: One final venomous addition
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sneakysnake611 View Post
    Can you keep venomous snakes in a rack system?

    Nice snaken i wouldnt trust myselfn id probably sneeze and get bit that split second my eyes are closed.

    Is "hots" an acronym?

    Great lookin snake. Power to ya

    You can keep venomous in a rack - though I would strongly advise against it. Many people do it though. I just prefer to be able to ensure they are locked and I can see them anytime I do an enclosure check. Some states require you use locked enclosures - and do not consider racks secure enough to meet their requirements.

    hot just refers to it being a venomous snake. Not entirely sure of the origin, though I'd imagine it comes from the description of a bite since it "feels like a hot knife being stabbed into your body"
  • 10-27-2016, 12:48 AM
    Ashley96
    I'm not into venomous snakes but I can definitely admire and respect them from afar. He is nice looking!
  • 10-28-2016, 01:52 PM
    reptileexperts
    Re: One final venomous addition
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ashley96 View Post
    I'm not into venomous snakes but I can definitely admire and respect them from afar. He is nice looking!

    as he is nice ;-)
  • 10-28-2016, 02:42 PM
    noodlestsc
    Re: One final venomous addition
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by reptileexperts View Post
    hot just refers to it being a venomous snake. Not entirely sure of the origin, though I'd imagine it comes from the description of a bite since it "feels like a hot knife being stabbed into your body"

    Hot usually is a term to describe an object that has a dangerous element inside it (just like saying that snake is hot because it's venomous.) A few examples from the construction world: If an item tested positive for asbestos we call that item hot. We also use that term for electrical items if the juice is turned on (it's either live or hot)
  • 10-28-2016, 04:56 PM
    reptileexperts
    Re: One final venomous addition
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by noodlestsc View Post
    Hot usually is a term to describe an object that has a dangerous element inside it (just like saying that snake is hot because it's venomous.) A few examples from the construction world: If an item tested positive for asbestos we call that item hot. We also use that term for electrical items if the juice is turned on (it's either live or hot)

    Yep we deal with that in our lab with lock out tag out.


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  • 11-06-2016, 07:22 PM
    CharlotteCerise
    Re: One final venomous addition
    He's a pretty guy. I like your locked enclosure and your protective measures. I personally wouldn't own a hot, but I do love seeing them in the hands of responsible owners! :)
  • 11-06-2016, 09:48 PM
    reptileexperts
    Re: One final venomous addition
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CharlotteCerise View Post
    He's a pretty guy. I like your locked enclosure and your protective measures. I personally wouldn't own a hot, but I do love seeing them in the hands of responsible owners! :)

    Yes. We follow the strictest protocols. Use shift boxes. PPE that seems excessive. Locks. More locks lol


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  • 11-07-2016, 10:27 AM
    kxr
    I love the picture where it's hooded, very pretty animal indeed. I don't think I'd ever own any hot species. I have thought about getting a yellow phase eyelash viper one day but the whole idea is just far too intimidating for me.
  • 11-07-2016, 12:05 PM
    reptileexperts
    Re: One final venomous addition
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kxr View Post
    I love the picture where it's hooded, very pretty animal indeed. I don't think I'd ever own any hot species. I have thought about getting a yellow phase eyelash viper one day but the whole idea is just far too intimidating for me.

    Trying to get better hood shots. He still has some growing to do! So looking forward to that. He just dropped his skin last night with a perfect shed. So I'll take him out this evening for some photos and then give him some food as a reward.


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  • 11-07-2016, 07:02 PM
    reptileexperts
    Re: One final venomous addition
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    Perfect shed :) super grumpy but no spit today.


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  • 11-07-2016, 07:44 PM
    redshepherd
    It's neat that the shed has so much color in it.
  • 11-07-2016, 08:38 PM
    Zincubus
    Re: One final venomous addition
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by redshepherd View Post
    It's neat that the shed has so much color in it.

    I noticed that my MKB and Black and white Cali King both leave dark coloured sheds .....


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  • 11-07-2016, 10:36 PM
    reptileexperts
    Re: One final venomous addition
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    <3 such an incredible animal


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  • 11-08-2016, 06:30 PM
    Dev_DeCoste
    Incredible!! I thought the statue behind you was an escapee and freaked out for a second!
  • 11-09-2016, 04:34 PM
    reptileexperts
    Re: One final venomous addition
    http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...a045da3eb6.jpg

    I did say this was the final but the wife did add a Bitis nasicornis with me (in case anyone did not follow the gaboon thread) - Rhino Viper.


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  • 11-15-2016, 09:37 PM
    reptileexperts
    Re: One final venomous addition
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    Well hello


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  • 11-27-2016, 04:51 PM
    reptileexperts
    Re: One final venomous addition
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    Setup a studio light but it was hard to capture well today. So this is the best we got.


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  • 12-18-2016, 08:06 PM
    reptileexperts
    Re: One final venomous addition
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    Heyyyyyyy he is a cobra


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  • 12-31-2016, 10:10 PM
    reptileexperts
    Re: One final venomous addition
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    More cobra fun.

    http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2017...eb9f756541.jpg
    His first spit with me


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  • 01-01-2017, 12:09 AM
    voodoolamb
    He is absolutely gorgeous!!!
  • 01-01-2017, 09:13 AM
    Neal
    I don't think I'd ever get a spitting cobra.
  • 01-05-2017, 09:04 AM
    reptileexperts
    Re: One final venomous addition
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    You wouldn't want to have this fun Neal?

    :) just wear PPE! Got sprayed pretty heavy yesterday. Fresh shed and was cleaning the cage.

    http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2017...09ec91ee6f.jpg

    http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2017...4da20b349e.jpg


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  • 01-05-2017, 11:18 AM
    tttaylorrr
    Re: One final venomous addition
    how do you clean up the spit? do you just use a lot of water? hots are so fascinating, thank you for sharing!
  • 01-05-2017, 01:11 PM
    reptileexperts
    Re: One final venomous addition
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tttaylorrr View Post
    how do you clean up the spit? do you just use a lot of water? hots are so fascinating, thank you for sharing!

    Disinfectant - then again with warm water over it to get all residue. It's safe to handle just don't get it in a cut and you're good.
  • 01-05-2017, 01:48 PM
    KingWheatley
    Re: One final venomous addition
    Curiously... is there any way to condition them to not spit/bite at you?


    Herp Derp
  • 01-05-2017, 09:46 PM
    reptileexperts
    Re: One final venomous addition
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KingWheatley View Post
    Curiously... is there any way to condition them to not spit/bite at you?


    Herp Derp

    Just staying calm around them typically keeps them in check. Some species are just bad though. Samar are notorious for constantly spraying you. Philippines as well. Naja pallida can be horrid or placid. Same with siamensis this species, you either get a calm one (jafar only started spitting when I moved him into the heated room) and the crazy ones (high white black and white seems to be the worst). But no, there is no food or clicker training to keep it from being an issue :)


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  • 01-05-2017, 10:56 PM
    Hlow87
    Re: One final venomous addition
    There's a guy in NC that has a cobra,not sure what species but it's huge..he feeds on sundays and let's people watch (he sets up screen doors around the enclosure so only he is actually in with the snakes) &he admitted of all his snakes he was most weary of the cobra..when he fed him (if im not mistaken..he said they only eat other snakes, so he puts snake blood on a turkey "part"(i dont remember) he came out that enclosure towards the guy FAST and the guy was banging that pole he was holding the turkey with against it hard to draw his attention away from him..was really cool,he has a huge collection of snakes

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  • 01-05-2017, 11:07 PM
    Mshuntjump
    Re: One final venomous addition
    Soo you conditioned him to eat rodents?
  • 01-06-2017, 06:50 AM
    Ballpythonguy92
    Re: One final venomous addition
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by reptileexperts View Post
    http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2017...0fed0f0109.jpg
    You wouldn't want to have this fun Neal?

    :) just wear PPE! Got sprayed pretty heavy yesterday. Fresh shed and was cleaning the cage.

    http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2017...09ec91ee6f.jpg

    http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2017...4da20b349e.jpg


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    Ok that's just a beautiful cobra

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  • 01-06-2017, 09:38 AM
    reptileexperts
    Re: One final venomous addition
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Hlow87 View Post
    There's a guy in NC that has a cobra,not sure what species but it's huge..he feeds on sundays and let's people watch (he sets up screen doors around the enclosure so only he is actually in with the snakes) &he admitted of all his snakes he was most weary of the cobra..when he fed him (if im not mistaken..he said they only eat other snakes, so he puts snake blood on a turkey "part"(i dont remember) he came out that enclosure towards the guy FAST and the guy was banging that pole he was holding the turkey with against it hard to draw his attention away from him..was really cool,he has a huge collection of snakes

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    This is typical of wild caught and even some captive born king cobra. They are primarily snake eaters. My cobra all eat rodents. But can and will eat snakes.


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  • 01-06-2017, 10:51 PM
    Hlow87
    Re: One final venomous addition
    If your ever in wilmington NC that is a great place to check out,cheap admission too..ill try to find the name of it,he actually has vipers,boas,retics,green mamba,alligator, and tons of other reptiles and 2 macaws and a store cat 🐱 in a 2 story building and his enclosures for like the cobra is a 8x8ish room with a big store front window to view them...id love to go back lol

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  • 01-07-2017, 06:44 PM
    reptileexperts
    Re: One final venomous addition
    I know the place, I have coworkers from there that have recommended it. Sounds like a nice facility. I still enjoy having my own collection though. Ours has become quite diverse and we may be adding one more tomorrow :-O


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  • 01-07-2017, 10:21 PM
    Hlow87
    Re: One final venomous addition
    Congrats! Will be looking for pics 😊

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  • 01-08-2017, 08:30 AM
    reptileexperts
    Re: One final venomous addition
    http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2017...3321fcd1fd.jpg
    Just another image to share


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  • 01-09-2017, 12:30 PM
    reptileexperts
    Re: One final venomous addition
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Hlow87 View Post
    Congrats! Will be looking for pics [emoji4]

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    He's here with his own thread!



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