Nice Little Normal

I spend more time admiring Callista's colors and pattern than I do with the butter or the champagne. This afternoon she decided she was going to be a bracelet. I tried getting her off and putting her back into her cage, but she wanted nothing to do with that, and only rewound herself tighter every time I tried, so I just grabbed the camera and took a few pictures of her instead.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...pse4vnt6ve.jpg

I love the way her head fades slightly to that rich java coffee color.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...psy50pmjx8.jpg

"See what I nice bracelet I am? How about if you wear me to the mall?"

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...psf59yk4zx.jpg

Finally untwisted her.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ps0pewbsxb.jpg

Showing off her head coloring and markings.

I'd like to see more normals. The morphs are pretty, but the normals are nice, too. :)

She's gorgeous, I love the variation between normals and honestly, despite the all of the pretty morphs I've seen normals are still my favorite! The first picture I saw was of a normal and that got me as far as owning a BP today. My next BP is definitely going to be a normal, I'll make sure to share him/her.

That's why I love normals. So underrated with all the morphs now. She's beautiful


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Originally Posted by PythonBabes

She's gorgeous, I love the variation between normals and honestly, despite the all of the pretty morphs I've seen normals are still my favorite! The first picture I saw was of a normal and that got me as far as owning a BP today. My next BP is definitely going to be a normal, I'll make sure to share him/her.

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I'd love to see pictures! I agree, they are pretty and interesting.

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Originally Posted by BMorrison

That's why I love normals. So underrated with all the morphs now. She's beautiful


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Thanks. :) I agree, they are underrated. If they were rare, people would probably seek them out.

Someone on Morph Market has a normal labeled as a classique and is asking a higher price than a normal would usually bring. LOL!

She's lovely! I spend a lot of time admiring my normal boy too, he's just gorgeous IMO.

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Originally Posted by Wolfchan

She's lovely! I spend a lot of time admiring my normal boy too, he's just gorgeous IMO.

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I've always thought that if 'normals' didn't exist and someone suddenly developed a morph that looked like a normal everyone would go crazy :)


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They probably would. It seems like the morphs get prime billing and the normals sort of fade into the background.

Anybody else want to post pictures of their normals for us to admire?

Every time I get a chance to see a variety of normals I am amazed by the beauty and uniqueness of each snake. I'm partial but I believe our normal is a stunner.

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If you have any pictures of yours, please post a few. :)

Nice, how much does she weigh?

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Originally Posted by Neal

Nice, how much does she weigh?

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She's up to 161 grams this morning, almost double what she weighed when she arrived at the end of June. Before too long she should be able to graduate from bracelet to necklace. :)

She gets a rat every Saturday, and is currently eating fuzzies. Good feeding response, and nice calm disposition.

Very pretty! I have several different morphs but my normal female is still one of my favorites, this is Katana:
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...psmhsyfttd.jpg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...psnep8rdci.jpg

She has lovely shading and nice large alien heads. What a beauty!

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Originally Posted by butterballpython

They probably would. It seems like the morphs get prime billing and the normals sort of fade into the background.

Anybody else want to post pictures of their normals for us to admire?

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Here's a few of my 2yr old male:

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a30...e/IMG_0099.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a30...G_0028%202.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a30...G_0027%202.jpg

Don't flame me on the tank, these were taken when I first got him a month ago, his setup is a lot better now. :) I would post picts from last night of him, but my shirtless man body is in them so I'll spare you LOL.

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Here's a few of my 2yr old male:

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a30...e/IMG_0099.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a30...G_0028%202.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a30...G_0027%202.jpg

Don't flame me on the tank, these were taken when I first got him a month ago, his setup is a lot better now. :) I would post picts from last night of him, but my shirtless man body is in them so I'll spare you LOL.

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He's a handsome one with an eye catching pattern for sure. :) Love that fading color around the head. Thanks for sharing!

They're great, I'm holding Inanna right now.http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...a34faa1d30.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...4ddac21d72.jpg


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this is my first ball python, Garcia. she's a normal but looks really red because of the lighting. (rip phone quality)

http://i68.tinypic.com/6sxa1k.jpg

They're both beautiful! How long have you had them?

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They're both beautiful! How long have you had them?

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I've had mine a little over a month, I took her from an acquaintance that was going to let her go in their backyard because they didn't want her anymore. [emoji58]

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I've had mine a little over a month, I took her from an acquaintance that was going to let her go in their backyard because they didn't want her anymore. [emoji58]

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Releasing pet snakes into the wild is just wrong for a number of reasons. I'm glad you snatched her up. That was a nice save, and now you have a beautiful pet. :)

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They're both beautiful! How long have you had them?

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i've had Garcia since june this year. i adopted her off kijiji from some guy who's fiance was making him choose between her and the snake. she's 5 years old and super friendly, apparently she was used for some children's reptile show/education stuff

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Originally Posted by butterballpython

If you have any pictures of yours, please post a few. :)

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More snake pictures please!

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Originally Posted by Hallows

i've had Garcia since june this year. i adopted her off kijiji from some guy who's fiance was making him choose between her and the snake. she's 5 years old and super friendly, apparently she was used for some children's reptile show/education stuff

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Nice! It sounds like you got a well socialized snake. Great pick-up, and pretty, too!

I got Callista in June, too.

Have to agree--more normal pictures are needed here. (Mine are not visible at the minute due to Photobucket problems.)

this is my first bb bp Elphaba. :)

http://i.imgur.com/Ehn2S3ml.jpg
first day @ home w/ me.

http://i.imgur.com/zwbkhtUl.jpg
she loved to climb. too big to this now tho.

http://i.imgur.com/4pl80jQl.jpg
and she loved to burrow. in one end and out the other. too big for this now as well.

i love my normal girl to bits.

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Originally Posted by butterballpython

Have to agree--more normal pictures are needed here.

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there's a few pic thread on Normal's. here's one that's stickied in the genetics forum - http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...-are-Beautiful!

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Originally Posted by Ax01

this is my first bb bp Elphaba. :)

http://i.imgur.com/Ehn2S3ml.jpg
first day @ home w/ me.

http://i.imgur.com/zwbkhtUl.jpg
she loved to climb. too big to this now tho.

http://i.imgur.com/4pl80jQl.jpg
and she loved to burrow. in one end and out the other. too big for this now as well.

i love my normal girl to bits.



there's a few pic thread on Normal's. here's one that's stickied in the genetics forum - http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...-are-Beautiful!

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Why too big to climb ??
Granted they're not as able as GTPs or BRBs or whatever but my aldukr so still live to climb and rarely fall , the branches aren't too high anyways ..

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What do you mean by normal, well theres no such thing. Yes , they might have the same color, but wait, they don't their color can be darker or lighter, their patterns are all a little different. To me normal means the same, no variation. So there really is no such thing as a normal, just the natural morph. I wish the word normal was eliminated from the BP vocabulary. Lets just say thats a beautiful natural morph, cause normal is boring and that BP is far from boring.

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What do you mean by normal, well theres no such thing. Yes , they might have the same color, but wait, they don't their color can be darker or lighter, their patterns are all a little different. To me normal means the same, no variation. So there really is no such thing as a normal, just the natural morph. I wish the word normal was eliminated from the BP vocabulary. Lets just say thats a beautiful natural morph, cause normal is boring and that BP is far from boring.

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I agree totally !!!

Maybe you should start a movement going to rename the ' normal ' to something more appropriate .... Maybe they should be known as Royals and all others could go in front of that label ... Albino Royal etc etc


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What do you mean by normal, well theres no such thing. Yes , they might have the same color, but wait, they don't their color can be darker or lighter, their patterns are all a little different. To me normal means the same, no variation. So there really is no such thing as a normal, just the natural morph. I wish the word normal was eliminated from the BP vocabulary. Lets just say thats a beautiful natural morph, cause normal is boring and that BP is far from boring.

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I agree completely! There's a lot of variation, so much so that many newbies, including me, have trouble distinguishing some morphs from normals. This also causes people to get normals and think they might be morphs or dinkers. All of them are nice looking.

i saw someone say they like to refer to them as "wild type" because its more flattering

Could call them "Protoroyal Pythons".

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i saw someone say they like to refer to them as "wild type" because its more flattering

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What about the captive bred "wild types " though ...


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Could call them "Protoroyal Pythons".

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Or Protons / Protonz / Prototypes / ....


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Or Protons / Protonz / Prototypes / ....


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"Hey, what kind of snake is that?"
"That, my friend, is the ubiquitous, but not average, Proton."
That would sound kind of cool.

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LOL, a few weeks ago I saw someone on Morph Market selling a normal as a Classique. The price went up along with the name. :)

If you're looking for a pretty pet, there's nothing wrong with a normal. There are plenty of them out there so you can choose your favorite pattern.

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Originally Posted by butterballpython

LOL, a few weeks ago I saw someone on Morph Market selling a normal as a Classique. The price went up along with the name. :)

If you're looking for a pretty pet, there's nothing wrong with a normal. There are plenty of them out there so you can choose your favorite pattern.

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That's perfect !!

Classique !!!


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I can only post a dropbox link right now, but this is a picture of Emrys from the first month I had him back in April

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7xc9inssqd...11935.jpg?dl=0

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Originally Posted by Zincubus

Why too big to climb ??
Granted they're not as able as GTPs or BRBs or whatever but my aldukr so still live to climb and rarely fall , the branches aren't too high anyways ..

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oh she's too big for the lil tree now and i haven't bought her a new, bigger climbing branch. maybe i'll get her something nice...

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I can only post a dropbox link right now, but this is a picture of Emrys from the first month I had him back in April

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7xc9inssqd...11935.jpg?dl=0

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And he's a nice looking one, too!

A lovely Classique.... :D

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What about the captive bred "wild types " though ...


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'Wild type' has nothing to do with where an organism is born. It is the genetic term that refers to the phenotype of the typical form of a species as it occurs in nature. The most prevalent allele – i.e., the one with the highest gene frequency – is the one deemed as wild type or 'normal'. :)

For example the wild type mouse coat color is Agouti.

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Originally Posted by butterballpython

... Someone on Morph Market has a normal labeled as a classique and is asking a higher price than a normal would usually bring. LOL!

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"Classique" is French for "Normal" and the locale is Épernay, Alsace-Champagne-Ardenne-Lorraine which is located in France. Captive bred reptiles in United States are less expensive (believe it or not) vs other countries. Take a look http://www.morphmarket.com/stores/map?cat=bps

Oooo! I like that! I put my vote down for 'Classique' Heehee.

I think i opened up a can of worms with this. I love all the suggestions, maybe we can start a pole here then hopefully the winning title will catch on, Since i don't know how to set up a pole thread maybe someone will do it. I think that wild natural is good but didn't a couple of morphs develup in the wild, so maybe just calling then naturals, or natural royals, or one of the other suggestions, i'd love to see these pretty guys with a better nomenclature, rather then normal.

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I think i opened up a can of worms with this. I love all the suggestions, maybe we can start a pole here then hopefully the winning title will catch on, Since i don't know how to set up a pole thread maybe someone will do it. I think that wild natural is good but didn't a couple of morphs develup in the wild, so maybe just calling then naturals, or natural royals, or one of the other suggestions, i'd love to see these pretty guys with a better nomenclature, rather then normal.

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I'm going with Classique :)


Maybe then we can discuss the change to Royals from Balls ;)


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I am also a big fan of Normals vs the artificially selected specimens. However it's only fair to acknowledge that without the 100's of designer patters/colors available today the hobby would be nowhere near as large as it has grown. This very forum itself could never have reached 50k+ members without morphs. Case in point just look at the relatively small number of hobbyists involved with Garters, Bloods, Boas, etc, vs those involved with BP's. It's not because of the Normals.

Also, at least one experienced hobbyist advises against breeding Normals, and he has some valid points. Listen for yourself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOY7...miUrGYWR-Ld7lw

You wanted more "normal" pictures. Here's my girl. I find her absolutely beautiful!
She looks a bit round here, she had just eaten when I took this.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...1aa713ce06.jpg

26 pages of Normal pics: https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...-are-Beautiful!

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...c1a1b33a07.jpg

Here's my big normal boy my first BP this is a little older picture I wanna say around the 1300g mark


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Loving all the pics of your "normals" they're all so different it's great 😁 here's my normal girl.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...b000af145d.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...b0e8369d30.jpg
Crappy cell pics while holding her, but she's my big beautiful girl 😊

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