Dinker

Just looking for opinions on this. See anything going on or a nice looking normal? Either way great lookimg snake to be happy with. Have some other pics from when younger if it would help [IMG]http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...919-223911.jpg[/IMG]

I've seen a few dinkers that looked like this, some have apparently proved out and some haven't. I have yet to see what happens when you breed them to any actual combos. Didn't the description on morph market say there was a whole clutch of these?

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Originally Posted by Seven-Thirty

I've seen a few dinkers that looked like this, some have apparently proved out and some haven't. I have yet to see what happens when you breed them to any actual combos. Didn't the description on morph market say there was a whole clutch of these?

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Yea but this seller apparently only got one from the clutch. Says a friend gave it to her and the friend kept two but has not bred any yet. Says mom looked "normal"

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Originally Posted by OTorresUSMC

Yea but this seller apparently only got one from the clutch. Says a friend gave it to her and the friend kept two but has not bred any yet. Says mom looked "normal"

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Ah well, if it a 2012 male, and it hasn't been bred, or so they say, it'e essentially anyone's guess. Like for me, it looks way too similar to the many dinkers i've seen scowering rhe internet and in person and most of them haven't proved out or they've proved out but tend not to do anything really signifcant in combos. It clearly has a lot going on but it's not going to put you on the map imo if it does prove out.

do you happen to have more pictures of it?

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Originally Posted by Seven-Thirty

Ah well, if it a 2012 male, and it hasn't been bred, or so they say, it'e essentially anyone's guess. Like for me, it looks way too similar to the many dinkers i've seen scowering rhe internet and in person and most of them haven't proved out or they've proved out but tend not to do anything really signifcant in combos. It clearly has a lot going on but it's not going to put you on the map imo if it does prove out.

do you happen to have more pictures of it?

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Yea thats kind of my opinion as well. I wouldnt really be concerned with being put on the map lol but i get what youre saying. Honestly in the ball python game i think most of the really big cool morphs are prob already out there. I feel like too often now people are looking at every little change and trying to name it something new and claim as their own or worlds first. God i wanna puke everytime i see someone type that lol. Im toying with starting a breeding program but my focus is picking a couple morphs i like not trying to prove something out. And dropping cash on what might just be a slightly above average normal is maybe a bit more ambitious than what im looking to do haha

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Originally Posted by OTorresUSMC

Yea thats kind of my opinion as well. I wouldnt really be concerned with being put on the map lol but i get what youre saying. Honestly in the ball python game i think most of the really big cool morphs are prob already out there. I feel like too often now people are looking at every little change and trying to name it something new and claim as their own or worlds first. God i wanna puke everytime i see someone type that lol. Im toying with starting a breeding program but my focus is picking a couple morphs i like not trying to prove something out. And dropping cash on what might just be a slightly above average normal is maybe a bit more ambitious than what im looking to do haha

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Yeah, this snake is a gamble. If someone could show me the pictures of the clutch mates beside this one It would give a better indication if this is even genetic or not. Generally if there's multiples, it tends to be genetic. Like it is a snake you could have around as a dinker project. There's
no harm in that. If it does prove out, then yay, you know have something that is in very low amount and if you wish, you could breed it to many things to try and see what it can do. There are quite a few dinker gens that prove out everyday but they have virtually no real value combo or price wise because of minute the influence is.

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Originally Posted by Seven-Thirty

Yeah, this snake is a gamble. If someone could show me the pictures of the clutch mates beside this one It would give a better indication if this is even genetic or not. Generally if there's multiples, it tends to be genetic. Like it is a snake you could have around as a dinker project. There's
no harm in that. If it does prove out, then yay, you know have something that is in very low amount and if you wish, you could breed it to many things to try and see what it can do. There are quite a few dinker gens that prove out everyday but they have virtually no real value combo or price wise because of minute the influence is.

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Yea thats just it. As nice as this looks at the end of the day its minor compared to some of the really cool stuff out there. Who knows i may just make a mild offer as i would like to have a normal in my collection anyway but def wouldnt pay the asking price. Thank you for your input.

Just my opinion, but I think he looks really flippin cool. I see potential.

Looks great! Good luck!

Looks like a potential sable to me.

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Originally Posted by Seven-Thirty

it looks way too similar to the many dinkers i've seen scowering rhe internet and in person and most of them haven't proved out or they've proved out but tend not to do anything really signifcant in combos.

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Could you post pictures of the many you have been scoring that are similar? Additionally, can you include pictures of those that haven't proved out, and those that have. Specifically, those that look like this.
Thanks,
Warren

https://youtu.be/sQOAMvweA78?t=14m51s

There's this one Graziani had. It didn't prove out. Cut to 14:50.

There was one I saw at CRBE owned by Urban Reptile that they sold, sadly I don't have a picture of it. This one apparently proved out and I'm kind of sad I didn't scoop it before someone else did. According to Urban Reptile, he put it to a yellow belly and created these mojave yellowbelly looking snakes.

There's this one: http://www.reptileradio.net/showthre...pix!!&p=969238

There were also a few more I've seen on the kijiji but I can't find those ads anymore I'm afraid.

These all look similar with differences but they all had the striping and the single alien head type things. Colour and specific pattern might vary from snake to snake.

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Originally Posted by Seven-Thirty

https://youtu.be/sQOAMvweA78?t=14m51s

There's this one Graziani had. It didn't prove out. Cut to 14:50.

There was one I saw at CRBE owned by Urban Reptile that they sold, sadly I don't have a picture of it. This one apparently proved out and I'm kind of sad I didn't scoop it before someone else did. According to Urban Reptile, he put it to a yellow belly and created these mojave yellowbelly looking snakes.

There's this one: http://www.reptileradio.net/showthre...pix!!&p=969238

There were also a few more I've seen on the kijiji but I can't find those ads anymore I'm afraid.

These all look similar with differences but they all had the striping and the single alien head type things. Colour and specific pattern might vary from snake to snake.

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This is exactly what I was thinking. Urban reptiles did have an animal that looked exactly like this that turned out to be genetic apparently. I saw it on their table at the beginning of the expo but I didn't think much of it. I believe it was marked as an igna but if you look at their website the animal they have shown looks nothing like that so I'm not 100% on that. Either way it's a sweet dinker for sure! I can already invision a few cool combos I'd like to try if it were genetic.

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Originally Posted by kxr

This is exactly what I was thinking. Urban reptiles did have an animal that looked exactly like this that turned out to be genetic apparently. I saw it on their table at the beginning of the expo but I didn't think much of it. I believe it was marked as an igna but if you look at their website the animal they have shown looks nothing like that so I'm not 100% on that. Either way it's a sweet dinker for sure! I can already invision a few cool combos I'd like to try if it were genetic.

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There were two different dinkers Craig had that day actually. He had the striped one that was sold really early on, and the Ignas. He didn't have any single gene igna's I'm afraid but he had two pastel ignas. There was something clearly going on with them, but not enough for me to add it to my collection. The one that was sold though I would have picked it up if I was half an hour earlier.

My normal has that white and light color creeping up her sides too, especially in the area behind her head. I tried for a few good pictures, but cooperating with the paparazzi was not on her agenda for today, so there's no picture of the area behind her head. In the right light, the lighter brown areas almost take on a very light purplish sheen. That may have something to do with the full spectrum bulbs I use in the house. This old camera does not pick up subtleties in color like my other one did. The good one one was taken in a burglary in March. I happened to have this one with me. I bought this bp from Petco. So my best, inexperienced guess is that your ball python is a normal. Here's Callista:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...psipbpskh4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...pst97uystc.jpg

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Originally Posted by butterballpython

My normal has that white and light color creeping up her sides too, especially in the area behind her head. I tried for a few good pictures, but cooperating with the paparazzi was not on her agenda for today, so there's no picture of the area behind her head. In the right light, the lighter brown areas almost take on a very light purplish sheen. That may have something to do with the full spectrum bulbs I use in the house. This old camera does not pick up subtleties in color like my other one did. The good one one was taken in a burglary in March. I happened to have this one with me. I bought this bp from Petco. So my best, inexperienced guess is that your ball python is a normal. Here's Callista:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...psipbpskh4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...pst97uystc.jpg

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Im going to need better pictures i'm afraid but it does look like a normal so far.

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Originally Posted by Seven-Thirty

Im going to need better pictures i'm afraid but it does look like a normal so far.

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To the best of my knowledge, she is a normal. I bought her as a normal from Petco because she had salmony coloring at the bottom of her alien heads. I asked about it on the boards, and someone suggested going to get her. I did. :) After several sheds, the pink and the stink (she smelled bad) went away. As far as I know, she is a pretty normal. I put up her pictures because the OP's snake is similar.

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Originally Posted by Seven-Thirty

There were two different dinkers Craig had that day actually. He had the striped one that was sold really early on, and the Ignas. He didn't have any single gene igna's I'm afraid but he had two pastel ignas. There was something clearly going on with them, but not enough for me to add it to my collection. The one that was sold though I would have picked it up if I was half an hour earlier.

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Ah, so the animal I was looking at wasn't the igna. Ok, I was there when he was talking to the guy that I imagine ended up picking it up. I didn't see anything too interesting to me at his table so I walked away before it got sold.

I absolutely LOVE the funky head pattern on this girl. Call me a noob, but I think she has some potential; even if she doesn't prove out as a "morph" in the traditional sense, she could be a polygenic gold mine just waiting to be tapped. I'm sure she'll produce some stellar babies for whoever gets her.

Out of curiosity, what was the sellers asking price?