Black widow?

Pairing was Bumblebee x black pastel. The two look pretty different and of course there will be variation within morphs but I think they are both black widows. Just looking for other opinions, what do you think?

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One pick is with flash one without.

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I know nothing of ID, but they are epic!

look like widow's to me
nice !!

The one on the left for sure. Do you have more pics of the rest of the clutch? Im on the fence with the one on the right.

Maybe black widow and a black pewter widow. The one on the right (in the first pic, left in the second) looks lighter, so it could also have pastel.

Black widow is black pastel, pastel spider.

Top to bottom left to right- spider, black bee, black pastel, the one in question, black pastel, pastel and black widow.

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the_rotten1 did you mean just black pewter? That was my first impression but the pattern is spider like which is why I made this post.

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Im leaning towards black widow for the other one as well. The head is too light to be a black pewter. Does it exhibit a wobble?

Haven't seen any wobble neither does the dam though.

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Well I'm more or less sure they are both black widows. The heads are way too light to be just a black pewter which usually has a somewhat dark head.

Thanks for your posts. Just wait for my yellow belly post soon. Nobody has posted about yellow bellies before right?

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Originally Posted by telliott4

Thanks for your posts. Just wait for my yellow belly post soon. Nobody has posted about yellow bellies before right?

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Not to my knowledge. Is it a clutch?

Yes. The dam and sire I got in a small collection purchase. They look soon different. I was hoping for an ivory to confirm both as yellow belly but I got 3 normal looking and 3 somethings (I guess yb). They have not all come out of their eggs yet which is why I haven't posted yet.

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Based on the heads alone, I would classify them both as Black Widows. Beautiful clutch btw!! :O
OoOOooo..did someone say yellow belly clutch.. :weirdface