First time breeding, what kind of male should I get for my pinstripe female?

Hello all! I have a 4 year old pinstripe that I would like to breed this year. I have a normal male but he is way too small/young. Any ideas of the perfect male for her? Should I get another pinstripe? Normal? Also, what would be the perfect size male for her? Should he be the same size as her? Bigger? Smaller? Thank you!

Look at morphmarket and see what you like, then try and make it.


Example!

I want a superfly, so i will breed a pastel to a fire, then hopefully i will get a firefly that i will be to breed to a pastel. Which will get me a superfly!

Awesome! Thanks for showing me this website! I'm looking for my male now!

lots to cross a pin with
you could get a pastave (pastel mojave) then you would get pastels, pinstripes, mojaves, pastel pins, pastaves, jigsaws, and jigsaw blasts,
and that is is a non expensive male
you could do a bee (pastel spider) or killler bee(super pastel spider)
and you would get pastel, spider, pin, spinner, pastel pin, pastel spider and pastel sipnners\
it realy all depends on what you like and want to make but if it were me i would get atleast a 2 gene male, more if you can afford it
the more genes you get in the pairing the less chance of normals and the easier it will be to move babies when they do come

Lesser does wonderful things with pin. So does enchi.

Personally I'd get something with a 'super' gene. Then you wouldn't get any normals. For example if you bred with a super pastel + another one or more genes you would at least have all pastel mix babies, no normals. A normal ball python would be very difficult to sell, you'd probably have to give it away, especially if it was a male. I got my male normal for free, I wanted him just so I can use him to prove out multi gene snakes to see what kind of genes are in there.

Here's a cool male for $200, a super pastel plus fire and yellowbelly!!!


http://www.morphmarket.com/c/reptile...-pythons/31801

https://morphmarket-media.s3.amazona...d7024157a9.jpg

If you haven't found it already, check out the genetic wizard calculator for snake crosses at this site:

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/wizard/

For example, if you crossed the snake I mentioned above with your pinstripe this would be the result below. You can figure out what snakes you like and which would sell the best or for the most money (best return on investment). I played with this for months before I made my choice of genes to breed.

http://www.capsandstems.com/genewiz.jpg

Here's another one if you wanted to step up to a $700 snake, it has five genes. Plug that into the morph calculator and you'll see that you can actually make 64 different snakes! You could breed that over and over for years and still be surprised at the combos coming out of that mix. Personally I'd search for a cool five gene snake like this:

http://www.morphmarket.com/c/reptile...-pythons/33431

Coral Glow / Cinnamon / Yellow belly / Enchi / Pastel

Disclaimer:This is based on my personal opinion

1st Pick: A double Recessive male. You could produce pin double hets, giving you some really cool stuff in the future.

2nd Pick: Albino or Spider albino. Giving you codom hets that you could use. Albino Spiders, Pins and Spinners are awesome.

3rd Pick: If you want to see visuals in your first breeding, than i suggest getting a cool codom. Ie Banana. (Banana Pins are slick)

I think if you could find a nice Pastel Leopard it could make some pretty nice looking animals and you may be able to pick one up without too much cash outlay.

I really like him! Although I am looking for the perfect male to get, I would not be able to buy him until maybe the middle of September. I found a beautiful male on a site today for 300 but I'm sure he will be gone by the time I can buy him, same with this one you have, I'm sure it will be gone by the time I can buy him. The ones that really caught my attention are yellow &/or white like this one. I have a few links saved but chances are I will have to do a whole new search Once the money is in my hand

The answer is always: What snake you like and can afford. When you find the right combination of those elements, within a few years you should have an array of nice babies.

From there it kind of depends on why you want to breed. If it's for money, you're not likely going to have luck due to the gradual decline of prices. If it's for pretty babies, look up what the combinations bring to the table by looking at the various pinstripe combos.

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Originally Posted by MontyP2016

Hello all! I have a 4 year old pinstripe that I would like to breed this year. I have a normal male but he is way too small/young. Any ideas of the perfect male for her? Should I get another pinstripe? Normal? Also, what would be the perfect size male for her? Should he be the same size as her? Bigger? Smaller? Thank you!

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Based on the question before you take the plunge do more research that included genetics, optimum breeding conditions etc.

Breeding is not about putting 1 snake with another it's about research and asking yourself the right questions, are you ready to breed, can you afford it, what are your goals, what will you do with the offsprings, what if they don't sell,will you build or buy an hatchling rack, how will you incubate, will you buy or build an incubator, will you start raising your own feeders, or do you have a reliable source when time comes to start your hatchlings.

I think most of your snakes you can sell on Morphmarket or Craig's List. Personally I'd wait awhile until you can afford a really higher end snake. Keep in mind that if you buy a male it only takes about 18 months to raise it up from a baby to start breeding, you have to wait probably another year if it were a female, so you already have a head start.

I picked up some cheap snakes to breed at first, then I realized that I just filled several spaces in my rack with cheap snakes that are going to make cheap babies. I'll probably sell most of what I started with before they even breed. Better to pick up a high end snake and hold back the 3-6 bang gene snakes for future breeding and sell the rest.

Prices do eventually decline but multi gene snakes usually sell for more than single gene snakes.

Not sure I'd go down the whole het recessive path myself, just have to wait way too long to get visual results and most of the het stuff sells for cheap. Better to jump right in with visuals, if you go albino pick up some albino females then a real nice albino male with multiple other genes. Most het stuff was bought way back in the day when even the het genes (non-visuals) were expensive. They have come down so much now it's not hardly worth getting het in my opinion.

The other route to go would be to figure out what kind of snake hasn't been produced yet and go for that snake. If that's the case you may have to use hets to get the end result.

Another route would be to buy something relatively higher end such as bamboo, they are coming down fast but still sell for at least $600-$1,000 for just a straight bamboo. If you put out the cash for a male and bred it half the babies would come out bamboo and you would easily make your money back fast. Having a mature female speeds things up significantly.

Another option would be to sell all your snakes or keep them as just pets and start over with a new breeding project. I've considered Clowns before, they still sell for good money.

Basically the more you invest the more the return on investment. Better to have just a few high end snakes than a whole rack full of cheap ones if you are planning on breeding. Start slow and small and breed your own keepers.

Personally I have a small collection of pieds that I'm working on. Here's a photo of my male fire pied that is going to be a powerhouse breeder. I'll probably start another small breeding group of clowns, probably won't breed them together for hets, just keep breeding all clowns to clowns and all pieds to pieds. I'm always on the lookout for a high end pied that I can add to my pied breeding project. As I eventually breed and get money for the babies I plan on using that cash to get more pied morphs.

http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file.../fire_pied.jpg

Purpose for breeding, 1: to learn and appreciate the species 2: hobby/ pets 3: profit.
Making money is not my main goal but yes of course Ill take extra cash if I can get it. Research yes! I have been researching and learning diligently approximately 3-5 hours per day by reading (on this site, morph market calcutator etc. And other sites) I breed my own mice and rats (which is also included in my daily readings). I can admit it 100% that I am not quite ready to breed yet. I dont have the money to get the proper heating/lighting/thermostats, etc. I am not 100% sure on where to set my temps, when to change my temps, when to stop feeding, start feeding, can I handle them, etc. I still have a LOT to do before I can start breeding but I hope (and I wont if I am not ready) I repeat, I hope I will be ready to put them together this year for breeding (November? Still not sure.) I know they CAN breed anytime but they have better odds during certain seasons.
I am looking at a female albino thats perfect for my male, she is local, because Im not liking basically anything a pinstripe will create. But even if I breed the PS, if I cannot see the babies I will keep them. I also will not sell to just anybody with money, I want to ensure their well taken care of. Most of my own animals are rescues and I dont want babies that I basically brought here, to be left uncared for.
Thank you all for your inputs! I'm learning quite a bit from all of you, keep on keepin on. God bless you all!