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  • 08-07-2016, 07:59 AM
    Dezoruba
    What is this behaviour? Very scary. [Video]
    Hey guys. This is my BP, Paprika. This post is really more to satisfy my own curiosity about what happened, no emergency or anything. This video is from a few months ago and I'd had her for around 6 months at the time. I unfortunately struggled with a lot of incorrect information and advice and her husbandry was NOT what it needed to be. It wasn't absolutely horrible, temps werent too far off, but i admit humidity was a real problem with the glass cage. I could have done a lot better in the beginning and pribably prevented this by doing more research before purchasing her.

    I'm happy to say that she survived whatever is happening here and has no lasting symptoms or side effects. She went off food for 2 months following this but shes back on track now. No neurological damage that I can see, no wobbles. For a few weeks following this she was a little shaky but now shes fine. Thankfully I've mostly figured it out and she and my other 5 BPs (which I acquired after this incidemt) are properly set up in a rack. And no more carpet as substrate, yay.

    Anyways, on to the video. I woke up in the middle of the night to the sound of her thrashing about in her tank. I didnt get it all recorded but at one point she was stretched as tall as she could and banging her head against the glass over and over. Then she syarted moving around in this weird jerky way. What the heck happened to her?!

    https://youtu.be/-W8RYLBXy2s

    (I feel like I need another disclaimer- as soon as I saw her thrashing I turned off all her heat and lighting, removed her from the enclosure and laid her.on my bed until she calmed down. I immediately called the vet and they told me to put her back and see if she starts thrashing again, and if she does to.record it so the vet could aee. Vet ended up being no help to me whatsoever in the end, they had no clue what this was.)



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  • 08-07-2016, 08:46 AM
    M.P.C
    When was the last shed and was it complete cause to me that looks like a ball trying to get some stuck shed off the head and neck.
  • 08-07-2016, 09:14 AM
    Dezoruba
    Re: What is this behaviour? Very scary. [Video]
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by M.P.C View Post
    When was the last shed and was it complete cause to me that looks like a ball trying to get some stuck shed off the head and neck.

    It was too long ago for me.to.remember exactly but she did (and still does. Ugh) have a retained eye cap on one eye. At one point she had some stuck shed on her neck but I'm pretty sure I'd gotten it all off of her before she acted like.this.

    http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...48e85b303f.jpg

    If this even is a retained eye cap, that is. She's an adult and doesn't shed very often, I'm just waiting for one more... if it doesn't come off in her next shed I'm taking her to the vet for it. Currently have her in 80% humidity and mist.tje eye directly, daily, but it's not seeming to help.

    She has had a full shed since I switched her to a rack, which was perfect with eye caps attached, but I think this one was still undernea th it and has probably been hanging on since before I bought her. :/

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  • 08-07-2016, 10:08 AM
    StillBP
    that is retained eye cap and it will come off if you raise your humidity up a bit and give her a bowl to soak in
  • 08-07-2016, 10:11 AM
    Dezoruba
    Re: What is this behaviour? Very scary. [Video]
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by StillBP View Post
    that is retained eye cap and it will come off if you raise your humidity up a bit and give her a bowl to soak in

    Higher than 80%? She has a bowl but she never gets in it.

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  • 08-07-2016, 10:55 AM
    Lacey
    Re: What is this behaviour? Very scary. [Video]
    could u have to sit in a damp towel in ur lap and see if she can work her way in it maybe it will rub off in the towel?
  • 08-07-2016, 11:21 AM
    Dezoruba
    Re: What is this behaviour? Very scary. [Video]
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lacey View Post
    could u have to sit in a damp towel in ur lap and see if she can work her way in it maybe it will rub off in the towel?

    She doesn't really sit well! She's head shy an bordering on 4000g but I'll give it a try

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  • 08-07-2016, 12:36 PM
    dr del
    Re: What is this behaviour? Very scary. [Video]
    Hi,

    It does look as though she is trying to start a shed and having trouble finding anything rough or heavy enough to start the initial seperation.

    I would spray the enclosure a little to increase humidity and put in something like a rock she can rub against.


    dr del
  • 08-07-2016, 12:44 PM
    Dezoruba
    Re: What is this behaviour? Very scary. [Video]
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dr del View Post
    Hi,

    It does look as though she is trying to start a shed and having trouble finding anything rough or heavy enough to start the initial seperation.

    I would spray the enclosure a little to increase humidity and put in something like a rock she can rub against.


    dr del

    Fortunately, I've abandoned that entire setup and invested in a rack so her sheds are great now. However I am still dealing with a retained eye cap from a past bad shed... last time she shed, it looked perfect with two spectacles attached, but there's still somehow a retained eye cap on her eye!

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  • 08-07-2016, 06:38 PM
    StillBP
    well you could remove it your self with a pair of tweezers if you feel confidant or take her to a vet to have it removed vet is probably safer for several reasons and they should have no trouble getting it all off
  • 08-07-2016, 09:05 PM
    Dezoruba
    Re: What is this behaviour? Very scary. [Video]
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by StillBP View Post
    well you could remove it your self with a pair of tweezers if you feel confidant or take her to a vet to have it removed vet is probably safer for several reasons and they should have no trouble getting it all off

    I don't feel confident in doing that. I'd probably end up blinding her. I also really don't trust my vet - when she had her first shed with me it was awful and stuck everywhere, so I took her in to have him remove her stuck eye caps and he told me that she had shed them when she really hadn't, they were clearly retained and one ended up coming off on its own later that week. So... I need to find someone new!

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  • 08-08-2016, 12:27 AM
    kxr
    What I usually do when I have snakes with retained eye caps is give my snake a bath in a rubbermaid container with paper towel in the container to help raise humidity (so I've heard) for about 30 minutes and the get a piece of scotch tape wrapped around my index and middle finger and just lightly roll it over the eye cap. It may take a few trys but as long as they've been in the water long enough it should work.
  • 08-08-2016, 01:17 AM
    John1982
    Definitely intentional scratching/rubbing as she's aiming for the same spot every time.
  • 08-08-2016, 01:27 AM
    maausen
    Re: What is this behaviour? Very scary. [Video]
    Could that not be a retained eye-cap and actually a sign of dehydration?? Not for sure but since you say you saw two spectacles on the last shed makes me think it is not a retained cap...
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