Need help identifying a dwarf retic...

I'm sooooo excited I just bought my first dwarf reticulated python! I should be picking it up at the FedEx ship center next Wednesday. The guy I got it from wasn't sure if it was Graniteback or Super Graniteback (or not Graniteback). Can anyone tell from the photos below? The breeding was a 50% Jampea (dwarf) Graniteback het albino x 50% Jampea (dwarf) Graniteback het albino. So we know she is a 50% Jampea (dwarf) albino but not sure about the Graniteback... Can anyone tell from the photos? I'm no expert on retics, I've been studying ball python genetics for the last year LOL. She sure is a pretty thing, check out these photos, simply amazing! We named her 'Lucy'! I'm so excited to get her I'm not sure I'll even sleep the next few days LOL!! I'm going to carry her around the house all day long until she is puppy dog tame HA!

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...1&d=1469135435

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I'm not a fan of the seller you went through but that's just my opinion :) Congrats on your new baby! I can tell you are super excited, that's awesome!
She does not appear to be a graniteback.

Well I can tell you I've been texting the seller and he is very responsive and very informative, much more so than the big breeders out there that don't seem to communicate very well. And I'm getting the snake in the photo, not some stock photo that doesn't match the actual snake. So far it's been a great experience.

I'm thinking that some day I may cross her with a super dwarf, maybe something with multiple genes and het for albino to get some really cool babies.

To the best of my knowledge granite back is the visual het for anthrax. Doesn't appear to be granite back. 50% dwarf 50% mainland? Hope you're ready for a 12'+ snake! Looks beautiful!

I very well could be wrong about granite back being the het for anthrax. Either way, great looking snake!

Actually according to 'World of Retics' the Graniteback gene is co-dominant, but they don't seem to have a photo on that website. First produced by NERD in 2002. They also have a super form but again no photos on the website:

http://www.worldofretics.com/morphs/granite-back/

http://www.worldofretics.com/morphs/super-granite-back/

I actually wanted to get one of the giant snakes before they totally ban the transport across state lines. And I wasn't really ready for a full blown mainland retic, they just get a bit too big. And the super dwarfs are a bit too small for me, I want something of a giant. I'm planning on keeping her in my ARS-8018 tub for a few months at least, hopefully for 6-12 months. Then I'm considering a stack of Vision 632 enclosures. They are six feet long, three feet deep and 18 inches high. Planning on getting several stacked together, that way I can 'simply' move her from one dirty level to a clean level without 'much hassle' LOLOL.

http://visionproducts.us/images7/632622f.jpg

It looks like they banned the transport of Burmese Pythons across state lines. That's a shame since now I can't even consider one, and if I bred it forget about selling the babies. I actually had a really tough time trying to find African Soft Fur rats here in Colorado because they are listed on the Lacy act and can't be transported across state lines. I still can't understand why since my rats and mice breed faster and the ASF will die in the cold unlike my rats and mice. And my rats and mice produce way faster than ASF, I'm almost tempted to get rid of them because they are not very good producers.

I actually plan on keeping her a bit on the smaller size by not power feeding her like most breeders. Once she is an adult I'll probably stick with jumbo rats every other week or so... The trick to having a good snake like this would be to tame her down as much as possible when she is small. I don't mind a bite from a relatively small snake that's just a few pounds, but a bite from a full size retic would be something else!

In a few years this will be me just taking a stroll through the park with my pet snake LOLOL!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-b6F0SCLsUZ...hon-Snake2.jpg

And if I get bored I can have the kids take it for a swim in the pool LOLOL!!

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Bno8kv80GCM/maxresdefault.jpg

And who needs a girlfriend when I can fall asleep on the couch watching movies with my pet snake LOLOL!!

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I don't know if World of Retics has it quite right. They also list anthrax as a recessive. I was talking to my bf about this last night and he wasn't 100% sure but it was thought there are two types of granitebacks, the graniteback that is it's own morph with the super and the graniteback that is the het anthrax but it's not really spelled out anywhere (I was trying to find some info so I could link it for you but didn't find anything). retic people are an odd bunch sometimes haha :)
Hope you'll post pics of your girl when she shows up, good luck with her!

That snake is from Mathew Martin. I'd trust his opinion. Graniteback is the het form of anthrax. Not all het anthrax are visiually obvious Graniteback.

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To the best of my knowledge granite back is the visual het for anthrax. Doesn't appear to be granite back. 50% dwarf 50% mainland? Hope you're ready for a 12'+ snake! Looks beautiful!

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I have some 50% SD 100% purple females. They should top out 11-12 feet, what I call a nice size for a retic. Big enough to be fun, but not giants.

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I have some 50% SD 100% purple females. They should top out 11-12 feet, what I call a nice size for a retic. Big enough to be fun, but not giants.

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I'm not sure a 50% SD will get that big. The one I bought is actually 50% dwarf, not super dwarf. I've heard 11-12 feet on 50% dwarf, probably a foot or two smaller for the SD and probably much thinner for SD.

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I'm not sure a 50% SD will get that big. The one I bought is actually 50% dwarf, not super dwarf. I've heard 11-12 feet on 50% dwarf, probably a foot or two smaller for the SD and probably much thinner for SD.

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My females 50% SD's are both 2014's. One had the colon resection surgery earlier this year so she's smaller and thinner than the other, maybe 8'. The other is right at 10' now and just starting to get thicker instead of longer.

On The Retic Nation there are some pictures of an older 100% dwarf female that is in the 14-15' range.

There are 100% Jampeas that are over 16' . . . Jampea does not really classify as a dwarf in all cases, but it is a dwarf in some cases. Each case will be unique. My 50% Jampea male is over 10' right now and is 3.5 years old. My 62.5% Jampea female that was from a het to het breeding (50% to 75% jampea) is just under 5 years old and is a solid 14' and definitely in the borderline of safe handling solo (she requires two people if you take her out to handle guaranteed, but one person can shift her from cage to cage for cleaning).

This snake is probably not het anthrax / graniteback / shatter. There are "two types" of anthrax out there, but its just marketing as they both get you the same thing. NERD Produces their anthrax and their hets are referred to as graniteback. Graniteback MOST of the time is visual. All the het anthrax stuff I've seen shows the same diffusion on the neck and some diffusion on the back pattern. . . Shatter is what Prehistoric pets calls their het anthrax. Again, marketing. The two are compatible, and they both have semi-visual hets. If Matt sold it to you as a poss het, which by % it would be (really depends if he produced any anthrax in this breeding which I'm nearly positive he did not since only nerd had produced albino anthrax maybe last year).

Please be smart with retics in public. Many cities will have some kind of ordinance. My city has loose laws but one weird one for sure - I can have nearly any reptile but I can not have a reptile loose in the city limits, meaning by ordinance, I would not be allowed to have a snake with me walking around (not that I would). The photos you show are of Burmese, much slower moving giants that are more or less complacent to just sit around. Retics do not act this way in most cases. Sometimes they will move a little bit, some times they will take off on you. Always exercise caution and respect.

No morph idea but she is a beauty and I'd go with naming her Pumpkin! As mentioned, those pics are all of big lazy burms. I'm sure you've been researching a lot but I really hope you don't think you'll be able to lounge around with it like that. I don't have a retic but close friends have a few and I've helped move their 22', couple hundred pound female and even she was used to being moved (they do educational reptile shows) and still wirey like a little colubrid.