Adult Champagnes

I'm a bit confused by the champagne gene. I would like to see photos of adult champagnes. The babies seem to vary wildly.

Thanks!

I am sure Dave Green will post pictures when he sees this, he has the best Champagne I have seen. :gj:

You can probably do a search and see some of his animals he posted in previous threads.

Thank you for the help. I always thought they were so ugly but some of the adults look pretty nice. I'm gonna need to add one for my future breeding plans. Might as well find something I like

Champagnes will vary wildly when another gene is added. their colors, pattern maybe added (as with Enchi for example), shading, etc. will all vary across the board. and then there's the Champagnes with ringers which will also vary in size.

my Black Pastel Champagne het Ghost girl is still a sub-adult. she's orangey-pink with dark shading and little ringers. she was produced by Bigfish1975 of Porter's Pythons. her dad is more golden and has a huge ringer - looks like a Pied. his pix are posted here on the boards. maybe Mike and Dave Green, who's also big into Champagnes - probably the Champagne King, will pop in and share some of their pix.

I'm not sure if this will help with any confusion but here are some...

Ghost champagne x champagne. This pair produced the first super champagne.
http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/p...mphetghost.jpg

Fire Champagne
http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/p...ireChampFe.jpg

Champagne Het Pied and Het Albino
http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/p...hampclutch.jpg

My favorite...Fire Champagne Poss. Het Pied and Poss. Het Albino
http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/p...ireERChamp.jpg

Pastel Champagne
http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/p...2014clutch.jpg

Thank you all for the help. I like the look of the pale champagnes and the ghost champagnes. If I want a pale adult what should I look for in a baby?

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Thank you all for the help. I like the look of the pale champagnes and the ghost champagnes. If I want a pale adult what should I look for in a baby?

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The fire gene reacts well with champagne if you like the faded look and you can't go wrong with a Mimosa (ghost champ). If you want a pale base morph champ I would just look for a light example of one.

Did I mentioned Dave had awesome looking champagnes, and usually I am not even a champagne person :bow::bow::bow:

Thank you so much for your help

That last one looks like she is defending with her life lol

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Of course the adults have to be in shed...but here's a few youngsters

I used to not appreciate Champagne! What was I thinking? There's just so much variability, but even combined with simple genes they can create stunning combos! They also have a higher percentage of ringers/paradox so each one is unique!

http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3ppiv23r.jpg

http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7oxo9mz4.jpg

GHI mojave champagne is a very nice combo, in my opinion

http://ballpython.ca/wp-content/uplo...mpagne-ghi.jpg

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Champagnes will vary wildly when another gene is added. their colors, pattern maybe added (as with Enchi for example), shading, etc. will all vary across the board. and then there's the Champagnes with ringers which will also vary in size.

my Black Pastel Champagne het Ghost girl is still a sub-adult. she's orangey-pink with dark shading and little ringers. she was produced by Bigfish1975 of Porter's Pythons. her dad is more golden and has a huge ringer - looks like a Pied. his pix are posted here on the boards. maybe Mike and Dave Green, who's also big into Champagnes - probably the Champagne King, will pop in and share some of their pix.

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http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...5/img_1011.jpg


I don't have a lot of champagnes but this guys a good one. Black pastel Champagne het ghost. Made a really cool black pastel mimosa last season.

Pastel Champagne Super Cinnamon ....."Grey Matter" First produced by myself in 2014. I'm a huge fan of the Champagne gene.http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...9edd3f8f45.jpg

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Pastel Champagne Super Cinnamon ....."Grey Matter" First produced by myself in 2014. I'm a huge fan of the Champagne gene.http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...9edd3f8f45.jpg

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I love this combo Bruce. Very nice animal. I'm thinking of breeding my boy above to a big cini girl. Have you done that combo? Just wondering if it changes anything.

Are you talking about the black pastel champagne het ghost above?


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Are you talking about the black pastel champagne het ghost above?


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Sorry, I should have included that pic. But Yes, I am talking about the Black Pastel Champ het ghost.

I bred my Hypo Black Pastel to Pastel Grey Matter male. Got a nice female Eightball Matter.


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Sorry, I should have included that pic. But Yes, I am talking about the Black Pastel Champ het ghost.

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http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...2f11f4317c.jpg

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Well aright then....Looks like I've decided on one of my 2017 pairings. Thanks Bruce

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Pastel Champagne Super Cinnamon ....."Grey Matter" First produced by myself in 2014. I'm a huge fan of the Champagne gene.http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...9edd3f8f45.jpg

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THE reason I'm looking into champagnes :) That and a black pastel version

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Pastel Champagne Super Cinnamon ....."Grey Matter" First produced by myself in 2014. I'm a huge fan of the Champagne gene.http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...9edd3f8f45.jpg

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Amazing combo! Reminds me of a "Grey Panda pied"...There's still so much that can be done!

Here's Bubbles on the day she arrived. She's still a juvenile and will not un-ball herself when she's held. Both her parents are champagnes, and both sets of grandparents are champagne x normal, so she has a good amount of champagne in her background.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...psbadt2z8h.jpg

I'm going to Tinley in October, hopefully I can find something nice there