What morph combo would you like to see next?

With more people getting into ball pythons, I see alot of morph combinations being worked on. I was just wondering what you all thought would be cool to see.

Personally, haha....I have a two.

1. Super Pastel Hypo. I know Joe has to be working on this one with those great Pastel Hypos he has :) I think they will be so bright they will hurt your eyes.

2. Pied Platinum. I am really interested in the Platinum x Pied project that RDR has started(ha....just read about his clutch on his site). That would be one awesome bp.

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Originally Posted by daniel1983

1. Super Pastel Hypo. I know Joe has to be working on this one with those great Pastel Hypos he has :) I think they will be so bright they will hurt your eyes

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Hasn't Corey already done that?

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

Hasn't Corey already done that?

-adam

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I really dont know adam. You know way more about this stuff than I do :) I have not seen anything on the net about it (I only searched a bit)... but that does not mean that he hasn't. does corey have a website?.... (www.coreywoods.com is a work in progress(i dont even know if that is his site))

I believe he has. I know his pastel orange ghost hatchling took my breath away when I first saw one. Daniel, Corey doesn't seem to update his website but he does post sometimes on kingsnake.

Thanks marla. I dont really check out the kingsnake forums too often..... I tend to like ball-pythons.net and faunaclassifieds a bit better :)....I might have to go look around.

ha ha ha...you and adam did not answer my question...and I know you both have some ideas about what would be cool to see:)

anything pied, anything striped, and anything mixed into a high white blue eyed snake!


vaughn

I would love to see what the homo albino/pied will look like I know there are several folks working on it ..

True ghost (axanthic + hypomelanistic) and whatever they are going to call caramel + axanthic.

I'm kinda new here but I would love to see a black piebald just imagine those black patches breaking playing against that crisp white.

DA

Well I would have said an Albino Spider, since I'd never seen one, but LOL I just found pics of a male and female (sibs from same clutch) on NERD's website last night. I was quite literally blown away by their unique beauty and the difference in the male's pattern to the female's is amazing! Hubby and I are split on this one...I like the female's pattern more, he prefers the male albino spider's more reduced markings. Amazing looking anyway you cut it!


~~Joanna~~

I happen to know someone working on a spider fireball!

oops sorry double posted!

how about an half albio half clown i dont no if its possable or not

Well it wasn't on my list because I didn't know what to expect, but the Lesser Platty Woma ball isn't too shabby now that it's out!

http://newenglandreptile.com/forumpics/21june052.jpg

K~

Not too shabby at all K! ... You guys are kickin @@@ this season ... now post pics of the "other" new one :D:D:D:D (and bigger than 15 x 15 ya tease!!) :neener:

-adam

Hey man...the "other one" was a full 50x40, so I don't wanna hear it! :P

Big pics will be up soon - I promise!

Thanks for the kind words - can't wait to see what you'll be showing off this year!

K~

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Originally Posted by KLG

Hey man...the "other one" was a full 50x40, so I don't wanna hear it! :P

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LMAO!!! ... pain in the a$$ :P

Me showin off? ... LOL ... no way dude, I can't hang with everything that's poppin up lately .... All I got is an empty wallet and a lot of snake poop!! ;)

-adam

I found a few hatchlings that look very similar to that one the other day, so I had to post the link. They are great looking Hatchlings...

Parents: Phantom/Lesser cross "blue eyed lucy "Male" x Phantom "Female"
Clutch Number: 2, Hatch Date: 06/04/05, Clutch Size: 9
Hatchlings:
Blue eyed Lucy: 2.1
Lesser Plat: 1.1
Phantom: 1.1
Mystery Balls, Possible "Super Phantom?": 0.2

http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/bi...5_clutch_2.asp

A

OK Adam!

Happy now?

http://newenglandreptile.com/forumpi...serspider3.jpg

:P

K~

P.S. For those who don't know - that's a Lesser Platty Spider on the left.

The lesser platty seems to mix well with everything.....I cant wait to see some other platty combos...maybe with some recessive traits :D Wicked looking platty spider

what i have been thinking about for a very long tiem is a Axanthic x bumble bee ball python there is a picture trapted in my mind that i cant get out!:confused: :confused:

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Originally Posted by KLG

OK Adam!

Happy now?

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You know I am!!! ;)

But I'll be even happier in Daytona when I get to harass you in person :P :neener:

BTW - I just love this smiley --> :neener:

-adam

is there any red in a bps coloring? cause if you could make a regular BP with dark red spots instead of black that would kicka$$

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Originally Posted by alexrls

is there any red in a bps coloring? cause if you could make a regular BP with dark red spots instead of black that would kicka$$

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Yes, there are tones of red found amoung a ball python morph or two ... it will take some time, but through selective breeding and working with the various morphs out there, there are tons of possibilities .... I'm looking forward to a solid golden red colored ball python! and then mixing it with a pied ... and then ... and then ... and then ;)

-adam

I am really interrested in seing an Albino Piebald, I am sure some have things coming out soon, hope the luck happens lol.
but the more I think about it, not sure it will look "that" nice, gonna see.

There should be Spider Pied in 2-3 years now. Some have hets of these, or at least possible hets (need to prove them first).

but what might be crazy is a Super Cinnamon Piebald, could you just imagine what it would look like wow ! and wow :D !

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Originally Posted by Watever

There should be Spider Pied in 2-3 years now.

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Gonna be a lot sooner than that! ... Hang on to your hat!! ;)

:D:D:D

-adam

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but what might be crazy is a Super Cinnamon Piebald, could you just imagine what it would look like wow ! and wow :D !

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Yep - the "Cow Pie" could be very, very cool!

K~

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

I'm looking forward to a solid golden red colored ball python! -adam

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Psssst...if you want a golden-red snake, quit playing with your balls & get a blood!!! :neener: :banana:

K~

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Originally Posted by KLG

Psssst...if you want a golden-red snake, quit playing with your balls & get a blood!!! :neener: :banana:

K~

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Heck no ... I'm too much of a wuss for those guys!! They sure are pretty, but they'd probably whip my a$$ and leave me cryin like a baby :P

Besides, I LOVE playin with my balls ... thought you knew ;) :neener:

-adam

Yeah...I know. But it was just BEGGING to be said. ;)

K~

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Originally Posted by KLG

Yeah...I know. But it was just BEGGING to be said. ;)

K~

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Well ya know K ... if there was anyone on the planet that could get me to stop playing with my balls long enough to show an interest in something else, it would most definitely be you ;) :blowkiss:

-adam

Few more to add to the list:

Striped Cinnamon
Pinstriped Platinum
Something akin to a super cinnamon piebald
Coral Glow Striped
Dwarf Ball A.K.A Pocket Ball (adult size should be around 2 to 2 1/2 feet)

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Originally Posted by digital animal

Few more to add to the list:

Striped Cinnamon
Pinstriped Platinum
Something akin to a super cinnamon piebald
Coral Glow Striped
Dwarf Ball A.K.A Pocket Ball (adult size should be around 2 to 2 1/2 feet)

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Is there really any Dwarf ball python ?

I don't think you will find that in the wild and producing a "dwarf" ball python would be kinda stupid. They are already small and the only way to have this would a genetic error or something, not something good in my opinon.

But I agree with all the other choice :) !

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Originally Posted by Watever

Is there really any Dwarf ball python ?

I don't think you will find that in the wild and producing a "dwarf" ball python would be kinda stupid. They are already small and the only way to have this would a genetic error or something, not something good in my opinon.

But I agree with all the other choice :) !

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Interesting. Do you think that dwarf retics & Burms are a genetic error?

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Originally Posted by KLG

Interesting. Do you think that dwarf retics & Burms are a genetic error?

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ha ha.... I have wondered something similar....but not really. Since dwarf retics and burms a locality related. Are there any specific locality related ball pythons? i.e. do pieds generally come from one specific area, etc.

dwarf balls? sounds cool u know it could be the ulitimate beginner snake except for the price tag

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Originally Posted by KLG

Interesting. Do you think that dwarf retics & Burms are a genetic error?

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Yes and no !

all morphs are kinda genetics errors isn't it ? :), I mean it's always a gene that is not like the others. But that's also what make new species etc... cause may be a new predator come out, he can see without problem the normals snake but can't see white, then the white snakes will survive and continu the population. So that's good.

Also, dwarf retic & burms really happens normally in the wild. But is there really any dwarf ball python in the wild ? I don't think so, so you have dwarf by mixing small ones with smalls ones etc... that's something I am more against.

But I don't want to start a genetic discussion here in this "new morph thread" :) !


and why would a dwarf ball be more "beginner" a ball python is good for beginner, size isn't really important. You can have a big snake or a small one, only the prey size and the size of the enclosure that will change mostly.

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Originally Posted by Watever

But is there really any dwarf ball python in the wild ? I don't think so ...

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Be careful what you assume, it just might come back and bite ya one day ;) :D

-adam

usually smaller snakes=smaller setups and smaller food= less money, most people don't normally invest alot in something new.
the term genetic error doesn't ring well with me, just because it's different doesn't make it an error. if it is healthy and can reproduce without be deformed and function normally, where is the error??? look at humans worldwide, we come in alot of patterns and colors!!!



vaughn

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

Be careful what you assume, it just might come back and bite ya one day ;) :D

-adam

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I just said "I don't think", I didn't say it wasn't. It was more a question than anything.
The Dwarf gene, really exist for the human, it also exist for the retic, but does it exist for the ball, that's what I was asking :D !

I just completly watched Ralph Davis 2005 breeding list.

It's the second year he have breeded Double Het for Lavender Albino - Piebald, last year he got nothing but this year he have more hatch, hope the 1 on 16 happens :)

He also have some Double het Lavender x Caremel I think. That might be good, both have a purple-ish coloration.

just back to that genetic error thing i believe that as long as u are producing animals that can reproduce live the average lifespan and dont get crazily sick all the time then its all right to create new morphs


but once u start changing these factors and are creating them just to make money by showing everybody that u have the new super combo x platinum megasnake then thats crossing the line

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Originally Posted by Watever

Is there really any Dwarf ball python ?

I don't think you will find that in the wild and producing a "dwarf" ball python would be kinda stupid. They are already small and the only way to have this would a genetic error or something, not something good in my opinon.

But I agree with all the other choice :) !

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I haven't heard of any yet but I would guess it’s just a matter of time till one pops up and someone decides to genetically prove it. I wouldn't say there is a need for them as they are small but I'd still like to at least see one or maybe own a few dozen :) .

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Originally Posted by alexrls

is there any red in a bps coloring? cause if you could make a regular BP with dark red spots instead of black that would kicka$$

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Corey Woods' Red Axanthic line is kind of like that.

Also, he does have a super pastel orange ghost; he posted it on another forum (the one that used to be Canadian), but I can't seem to find it. It appears that older posts are gone there now.